also 30 gallon rubbermaid tubs are to small . plants will be too tall even 12/12 from start,your gonna have to have room for the light and headroom for plants.if you try it good luck to you .im just trying to help you even though you didnt ask for it because i would like to see you yield as much as possible and no one else on here seems to want to help you.praise is good dont get me wrong, but when i see all this potential with your growing i just wanna help.im not a grow guru but ive got 100+ indoor grows under my belt just like to share knowledge.BTW the one reason why i say to much Nitrogen is because when your plant has to much its starts getting too green, the leaves start clawing,and the leaves get this waxy kinda glossy looking coat over the them. thats a red flag for over nuting with nitro.peace BIG YIELDS

my good man, I appreciate all of the info but I assure U Ive corrected everything U mentioned AND THEN some..

as U can see from the pix above the current situation is under control, those clones werent even fed any nutes until they were 6 weeks old, and the seedlings arent fed until 3 weeks in.. (regardless if its 12/12 from seed or not)

Ive found a good new method for my growing needs and I think im gonna give it a try using all of the recommended nutes, soil, and equipment. but i appreciate ur 2 cents tho.

im not sure what U mean by "big logs" but if ur referring to my cola's then thank you

my dry weight is what it is, no sense in worrying about it now.



oh and from the info u gave me i would like to be first to call bullshit to U saying uve done 100+ grows.

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my only reply to this quote is that U need to take a cruise thru the CFL section, ppl are growing in speaker boxes, cpu towers and cases, cupboards, rubbermaid tubs etc..

with careful planning U can accomplish it.

oh and ps
the clawing came from genetics, it carried on to the seeds and clones as well...and "General Hydroponics Kabloom" is responsible for the wax-like surface. the NPK of that stuff is 2-45-28.. still think its too much nitrogen?

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lol@ that guy saying plants should yeild more than 4oz each 12/12 from seed just bcuz I have a 400w HPS...

edit: IMO the wet weight is more important than the dry weight, simply bcuz if the cops kick in the door, they'll weigh whatever is cut down and prosecute someone according to THAT weight...they wont wait till it dries and cures...

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good deal bro glad to see things r going good ,also good to see that your aware of all your plants and the possible probs i mentioned. yeah there isnt crap you can do about genetics lol . i just meant the stems and also meant no disrespect. they can weigh a bit when wet and no the N content seems good. As long as you know why they are a little shiny its cool if it doesnt seem to be doing anything harmful (just looks lil bit funny no worries though) also 4oz per plant from 12/12 with 400watt is retarded i def did not mean that much ,but yes a 1oz -2oz per plant is highly feasible with 400 watt. dont get me wrong i wasnt haten on the skillz just adding my 2 cents.trust me you got skillz which im sure you already know peace>

i just started growin pot..i was =very successful at my fist attempt...producing 9 brilliant healthy seedlings....but late rthen learned not to put them in the window...becuz my father threw them in the fire....i jus need sum help wit making a box