First Grow 400w Waterfarm SCROG w/ Sannies Seeds

**mdhsas** · 10-16-2011, 09:01 PM

Hello RIU,

This will be my attempt at a first time (serious) grow. This grow is another of the many grows inspired by the methods of SCOTTYBALLS. I have grown small plants before with terrible equipment and none of them ever produced any results. This time I will be using much better equipment and I am expecting much better results. I am in college so I'm on a very tight budget and this grow will be taking place in my 10x10 walk in closet.

The Set Up:

Grow Tent: Mylar Lined 32" x 32" x 63"

Light: 400w digital dimmable MH (Veg) + HPS (Flower)

Growing Medium: Waterfarm complete.

Nutes: Genreal Hydroponics Flora kit. (Not sure if I'll use all 3 parts or just micro and bloom like the Lucas method suggests)

Training: I will be using the SCROG method.

Ventillation: 1 Stanley blower, 1 small clip fan (cooling the lamp), Blizzard 8" oscilating fan at the base of the tent.

seeds: I ordered the Feminized Mix pack from Sanniesshop (I've heard nothing but great things about Sannie). This includes 2x Sugar Punch, 2x Killing Fields, 2x Shackzilla, and also 2 freebies I believe. (Not sure which to grow first. Either 1 of the freebies or Sugar Punch)

Temperature: at about 12" from the light my temps are reading at 75 degrees F. At the top of the waterfarm it reads just over 70 degrees.

I am still waiting for my seeds to arrive going on 8 business days since confirmation of shipment. C'mon Sannie!! any day now...

**mdhsas** · 10-16-2011, 09:07 PM

So now that I'm all set up I have some questions that hopefully some of you can answer.

1. Do I need to run the exhaust fan when the lights are off or what?

2. After reading about the Lucas method I saw that it can be done with just the micro and bloom nutes from the Flora kit. Should I only use micro and bloom nutes or should I use all 3 the veg, flower, and micro and just follow the directions on the labeling? What do you think would be best? I dont have the funds to buy Floranova bloom yet to use as a all in one fert.

3. Should I move my lamp lower for veg or will it be fine at the height it is at now? It is as high up as it will go.

**poppinx** · 10-16-2011, 09:49 PM

they need constant circulation of air to reach full potential...circulation during lights off is just as important as lights on imo.ive had three successful grows using the feeding instructions thqat came with the waterfarm dilluted to 75% or so(economics). havent tried floranova yet been happy with results that come from the three sample bottles...like to throw in a lil superthrive here n there and i use advanced nutes final phase to flush(makes huge difference).I use 600w hps. I like to start clones about 3 to 4 feet away from light n move down to about 2 feet away after they devolope their 4th tier.i keep it that distance thru veg then move it back to 3 feet for bud.

**mdhsas** · 10-16-2011, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by poppinx

they need constant circulation of air to reach full potential...circulation during lights off is just as important as lights on imo.ive had three successful grows using the feeding instructions thqat came with the waterfarm dilluted to 75% or so(economics). havent tried floranova yet been happy with results that come from the three sample bottles...like to throw in a lil superthrive here n there and i use advanced nutes final phase to flush(makes huge difference).I use 600w hps. I like to start clones about 3 to 4 feet away from light n move down to about 2 feet away after they devolope their 4th tier.i keep it that distance thru veg then move it back to 3 feet for bud.

Thanks for the reply. I will keep the fans running full time. Can you explain your dillution method more I don't fully understand.. I'm a complete newb to hydro

**mdhsas** · 10-16-2011, 11:59 PM

Just found a great thread on the Lucas method for the gh flora kit. Seems simple enough.

**AWnox** · 10-17-2011, 05:33 AM

Subbed! Love WF grows, doing one myself just now. About the nutes; I'm only using NovaBloom (The complete formula not the 1 of 3 parts system) from start to finish, with maybe a hint of Micro in the early stages to help with the veg growth. Check out SCOTTYBALLS grow with the WF. He only used Nova Bloom from start to finish and it turned out tremendous for him. The quality of the bud was not affected. As he always says; "Less is always better than more". Myself I rather just use as little as possible (enough to give her what she wants) and just let her do her thing. Along with a good SCROG, that's pretty much all you'll need to get a very decent yield and quality bud.

**poppinx** · 10-17-2011, 08:44 AM

imo less is more when it comes to nutes i only give em 50-75% of the recommended dose.

**mdhsas** · 10-17-2011, 12:29 PM

AWnox,

Thanks for the Sub! I have read the SCOTTYBALLS journal all the way through as well as Dayzt Tangerine Dream grow journal. Both of these were very informative and set up the basis for my grow. Because I'm strapped for cash I don't wanna spend anymore money for this particular grow and will just stick with the florakit that came with the waterfarm. For my next grow I'll upgrade to the Floranova bloom only when I have more funds.

poppinx

Thanks for the reply, I'll start low and work my way up slowly. I read somewhere that some of sannies strains do better with lower concentrations of nutes. Not sure if this is valid or not... I'll probably just pay attention to the plant as it should tell me what it wants.

**mdhsas** · 10-23-2011, 11:54 PM

Well I guess I'll do an update, but there is no good news to report.. So.. it's been 16 days now since I received the shipment confirmation email from Sannie and still no seeds. Shipping time is listed as 5-15 days. I'm going to email him tomorrow and see if I can get them resent.