16000+ watts medigrow: og kush+ 13 x 1kw hps + 3 x t5 badboys + grotek = *HAPPY JOY*

Toolage 87

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I got a question for you Kitty. Why do you guys in the videos wear gloves?
Also do you guys wear gloves even when your not doing the video or was it just for the video reasons to tell you and your hubby apart?
 

mellokitty

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Kitty,
On the electricity bill front, here in So Cal we just went to "summer rates". My bill went from $1,500/month to $1,900/month. That's with 10 - 1000 watt lights in bloom and 4 - 1000 watt lights in veg. Hope this satisfies those who want to read dollar amounts. LOL.

Tell me about the OG you're growing.

Did you have a link for the citrus extract?

After all, Helper D can only smoke so much kief. He's so spoiled.
bwaaaaa hahaha there's the smartassery i missed. [tongue in cheek] maybe i'm just too damn accomodating. [/tongue] (<---- AAAA HAHAHAHA)

far as i know, our OG is The original clone-only p91chemdawg cut that somebody brought babies of from LA, and we got it from the one person in our circle who'd've had the wherewithal to make that happen. it's been looked at by "og-only" folks with no quibbling so i'm willing to bet it's the real mccoy, or at least very similar to.
comparatively, we weren't particularly impressed by the 'bubba' that's floating around up here. this may have coincided with "everybody we know (including you) has to harvest early because of PM and pests month"... how do you find it for disease and pest-resistance? and now there seems to be some local debate whether "tall kush" is a true kush or not. [kitty thinks: og's technically not a true kush either...]

the thread with the citric extract recipe has recently been stickied in the "cooking with cannabis" section. i believe the actual extract is on page 2? (but there's pills and candies and all sorts of other stuff in there i'm sure she'll get all excited about too, better dust off your printer ;))

tee hee hee, guilty as charged, i'm every bit as spoiled as helped d.... you really CAN only smoke SO MUCH fingerhash. no really.

speaking of helpers.... congratulations to helper g!! i'm sure she's going to learn a buttload of stuff from your room! (i'm a bit jealous actually. pretty sure you've got NOTHING on my first boss on the asshole scale.)
 

mellokitty

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meow...what a beautiful garden you have kitty! your an amazing gardener and i love your set up! It must be so wonderful to be able to walk around in your room to feed and tend to your girls. I wish i had that type of room. Maybe one day if im lucky. What is your favorite strain? If you get menstrual cramps what strain do you find works the best to cure the pain? peace kitty your girls look puurrrrrrrfect!
you give me waaaay too much credit, my man pretty well did ALL the build work, kitty was the "come over here and hold this" helper. the elbow room is nice, but i can't wait until the main canopy is at my eye-level. i fucking love tunnelling in there to work. sitting on the floor looking up i can pretend i'm in an ancient canna-forest.

my favourite strain to grow is: probably dr. atomic's northern lights x blueberry. just ridiculously easy.
favourite smoke: hmmmmmm. that's a toss up between grapefruits and hazes (next time i buy seeds there's a "grapefruit haze" i'm eyeing up). but i also find my smoke preferences are heavily influenced by whatever's around/not around at the time.... if my collection has been indica-heavy for a while, i start hankering for a nice sativa, if it's been fruity i start craving peppery, that sort of thing.

cramps: i find that any heavy-hitting indica dom does the trick. if it gets really bad i make tea or milk out of it.

you still didn't tell me what that nail polish was..... ;)
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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hello kitty, your funny. I can see your furry little body tunneling in that lush forest of yours... purring and meowing all day long. hahah
i bet you do more work than you say! your lucky to have such a handy cat around. Mr. Mello Kitty is a very nice cat.
The strains you mention sound delicious. I have never tried any of them before.
If its not too much trouble, can you tell me how to make tea or milk out of the weed? thanks Kitty cat!
Oh, the blue nail polish. I have no clue what type it is. the girl at the nail place picked it out for me and it looked nice and paid no mind to the name... but next time i go i will make sure i pay more attention and get the name for you kitty! it will look pretty on your claws! have a puurrrrrrfect day!
 

mellokitty

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beans: don't leave, man. i thought we were just having some adult political discourse. (have i mentioned i fucking HATE politics? :))
just for the record: i hope you understand that if someone had come up in here claiming, "beansly is a fucking snitching bastard", i'd've told them to prove it or stfu just as vehemently. i grew up around italians. that shit is a finger-losing big deal, and doesn't fly around me. other than that, we're ALL entitled to our opinions, however much they might clash.

jyermum: i don't have to hug them. they hug me. [helpless girl voice] oh, the tentacles are coming to get me, help help [/helpless] ;)
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
damn what a clean grow room kitty :) all proper... you liking the t5's, have you seen profesours stuff(dam spelling.lol)

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mellokitty again"
thanks chronmon (yes, you've been abbreviated, lol) ... and i HAVE been following pr0fesseur's (<-sp?) threads with much interest. i think the next lighting investment is going to go towards super actinics. very exciting stuff.
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
I have a sneaky suspicion that Mello might have a few threads for you on the recipes, but I wouldn't want to spoil it for her!

Last time I bought "Bubba Kush" clones they weren't very impressive, I didn't do more than 2 rounds with it.

But I sure would like to see a picture of your Bubba!

My first outdoor crop ever back in the days when I roamed San Diego. It wasas some Mexican cartel schwag my friend started to grow, I cloned, and popped it up on my hill, and we named it Chronic Monster. He fucked his all up, but mine actually turned out to be pretty dank for something that came out of grey Mexican brick weed. The growing is great in SD, but the night life and girls are even better.
LMAO!! chronic monster is an awesome name for a strain!!
that's sort of what happened with our bubba; i'm sure if we all asked nicely, some pics of collective's bubba might just magically appear in here...... *casting a picposting spell on cg*

and yes.... i'm working on a muffin thread right now. i'm trying to get my dosage under control, and muffins/mini muffins make it easier than slab cakes or brownies. did some nice mild mini-cheesecakes the other night though...(you want?)
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
I got a question for you Kitty. Why do you guys in the videos wear gloves?
Also do you guys wear gloves even when your not doing the video or was it just for the video reasons to tell you and your hubby apart?
well, for cloning specifically, i've heard that you don't want your skin oils contaminating the incision (which makes sense) but i'm personally not that anal. when i'm cloning, i wear one glove because it's the one that's in and out of water, getting pruny is hell on the skin afterwards; and because i like to have better control of my razor hand (no glove) since it doesn't directly touch the incision anyway.

when we're working with flowering ladies we tend to wear gloves too, but again, for ease of cleanup more than anything. (my landscaper friend says she's gonna get me gator gloves - you know the kind that you use to stick your whole arm in a cow's hoohoo? - sooo stoked ;)) i'm a pincher of leaves (not a puller) so sometimes i wear a thimble under one of them too.

de-stickiefying oneself can get to be quite a chore.....
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
hello kitty, your funny. I can see your furry little body tunneling in that lush forest of yours... purring and meowing all day long. hahah
i bet you do more work than you say! your lucky to have such a handy cat around. Mr. Mello Kitty is a very nice cat.
The strains you mention sound delicious. I have never tried any of them before.
If its not too much trouble, can you tell me how to make tea or milk out of the weed? thanks Kitty cat!
Oh, the blue nail polish. I have no clue what type it is. the girl at the nail place picked it out for me and it looked nice and paid no mind to the name... but next time i go i will make sure i pay more attention and get the name for you kitty! it will look pretty on your claws! have a puurrrrrrfect day!
lol, guilty as charged; i'd rub my face all over them too if it didn't make me itchy.
mr. mello is indeed a very handy cat to have around. although i'm pretty sure he appreciates the fact that i actually *like* the dirty and repetitive chores. (i know i know i'm a special kind of dork....)

tea: dead easy. you take a pinner's worth, grind it up real fine, stick it in a teabag/ball (i drink lots of loose teas so i have empty teabags on hand - you can find them at asian grocery stores for $2/100pk), pour boiling water over, steep for about 5 min longer than you'd steep tea, squeeze the living fuck out of the plant matter. i like to add a bag of something herbal for the flavour. rooibos chai is quite nice for masking. this makes a nice mild brew, generally by the time i've finished half the cup, i'm starting to feel better.

milk: same thing, but if you want it a bit stronger, you could always put it all together in a pot and bring it to a simmer (but not a boil) before you take the teabag out. i think the fat aids the extraction because i find it's usually a bit stronger than the tea; i usually save the milk method for days when the cramps are so bad i'd be useless without it anyway [hint: body stone]. mmmmm nothing quite like a "canna london fog"....

i don't wear a lot of nail polish these days (i have a toddler and it feels weird trying to fish something out of his mouth with a manicured finger) but i'm always on the lookout for cool colours for the collection (and feet. i wear all sorts of odd colours on my toes).... i'm glad it's a salon brand; i was afraid you were gonna say it was wetnwild or some other brand i don't have the patience for. :lol:
 

Jozikins

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LMAO!! chronic monster is an awesome name for a strain!!
that's sort of what happened with our bubba; i'm sure if we all asked nicely, some pics of collective's bubba might just magically appear in here...... *casting a picposting spell on cg*

and yes.... i'm working on a muffin thread right now. i'm trying to get my dosage under control, and muffins/mini muffins make it easier than slab cakes or brownies. did some nice mild mini-cheesecakes the other night though...(you want?)
Yeah, the name gave me a warm and fuzzy feeling when I smoked it, haha. It really was a monster. We actually gave it a second round indoors just for the hell of it and it turned out basically the same, glad it wasn't my grow room! haha.

I do hope CG posts some pictures, I'm in his neck of the woods and sure would like to know where all the good Bubba is at! I know how you feel with the moldy Bubba, I had one I always had to crop a week or two early because she would start to get PM on her buds always right before harvest. So we usually did a multi stage harvest to prevent loss of yield.

I was actually doing an interview at a dispensary the other day and we were all talking about how great some mini cheesecakes would be in the edible freezer. So, yes, I would love your cheesecake recipe, thanks kitty! And since this might go in a dispensary, if you could give me a heavy hitting dose too, that would be great.

Lol, I thought you were going to show him the citric acid extract form badkittysmiles. I see you all over the different edibles thread. I'm stoked, I'm turning my hermed up SC99, which is narcotic, into all edibles. No flowers for smoking besides about 7g I will set aside in my "extinct buds" collection, because I wont be growing the SC99 ever again. Mold whore, and very strong herm tendencies. There are patches of PM I tried to get off the SC99 before harvest, but it was just impossible, so I'm just going to decarb it and cook with it. But for the record, PM should be killed by the heat in decarbing and again in the cooking process, but I am still NOT distributing these to a dispensary or collective. I have never gotten sick from accidentally smoking something with PM on it, but I'm sure lots of people could very easily, especially sick people. As far as effects on humans, PM is extra mild, generally speaking.

The only muffin recipes I know aren't for cooking with canna. They are wayyy to low in fats, they are borderline healthy snack, minus the sugar and all-purpose flour.
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
tee hee hee b.u.s.t.e.d.
i'm a bit on the eccentric side when it comes to food. (mr. mello loves it, although there *have been a few things where he was initially like, "and you expect me to EAT that?")

2 bite cheesecakes (you'll need mini muffin tins)
makes 24
crust:
1 cup all-purpose flour
1/3 cup sugar (i like to use demerera for the crust and turbinado for the filling)
1/4 cup baking cocoa
1/2 cup cold cannabutter
2 tablespoons cold water.
filling:
1/2 lb cream cheese
1/4 cup sugar
2 tablespoons milk (this is the mild recipe which is about 5mls of butter per piece, you can omit the milk and add 60mls of cannabutter to make ones that are 7.5mls/pc).
1 tsp vanilla extract
1 egg, lightly beaten
1 can cherry or strawberry pie filling (alternatives to follow recipe)
preheat to 325f.
1. crust. combine dry ingredients. cut in butter until mixture looks like coarse crumbs, gradually add water and toss with a fork until the dough forms a ball. i find it helps to just mash it together with your hands once most of the dry ingredients are saturated. you should end up with a lump that looks like chocolate cookie dough.
2.shape into 24 balls. the easiest way to do this is to divide into 2, then 4, then 8 pieces, and then divide those 8 pieces into 3s. press onto the bottom and up the sides of greased mini muffin cups. set aside.
3. in a large bowl cream the cheese and sugar together until smooth. (if you make the strong recipe make sure to incorporate the ingredients really well at this point.) add vanilla and egg, beat on low until just combined. spoon about 1 tablespoonful into each cup. bake for 15-18 minutes or until set. cool on a wire rack (you might need to do the toothpick around the edge thing to get them out). top with pie filling.

in the absense of pie filling: before you start, take 12 pitted and halved cherries, or 6 quartered strawberries and gently fold into a 1/4 cup jam of choice + 2 tbsp water mix. by the time your cakes are baked and cooled you should have a nice fruit compote, spoon one piece of fruit + a bit of syrup onto each piece. OR, 24 blueberries, rasberries, or blackberries, put them right on top of the cheesecake (the compote is hard to do neatly with the softer berries) and drizzle with the jam+water syrup.

ta-da! you'll find they're quite impressive-looking for how easy they are to make.
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
what kinda muffin recipes ya got? *nudge nudge*
i always feel like i have to put "healthy" i quotations like that because all the muffin recipes i have are pretty high in fat.
examples: berry cream muffins: the original recipe calls for (for 2dz regular sized muffins) 1 cup of oil plus 2 cups of sour cream (yes that's 3 cups of fat to 2 dz muffins), which i replace with a combination of cannabutter/oil, yogurt, and cream, depending on my mood.

even my carrot bran muffins aren't healthy, by any standard. i just take my tried and true carrot cake recipe, replace some of the flour with bran, maybe throw in a banana or 2 for good measure, but still full-fat full-goodness.

hence my forays into glycerin tinctures and whatnot, since my baked goods are like "when in doubt, add dulce de leche" and not at all suitable for diabetics.
 

Jozikins

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I love weird food. I was actually just talking about this in another thread.Very nice recipe though, I'll give that shot when I'm done turning these nugs into butter. There isn't enough cheesecake in this world with a peach topping... it's so fucking delicious.
 

collective gardener

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Kitty,
Rather than post a bunch of my pics on your thread, here's a link to a page on my thread with a buttload of bubba pics. Posts 508 and 510 have some good ones. So, your spell worked. I couldn't control myself: https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/407048-20-000-watt-medical-grow-17.html

Our Bubba is a Pre-98. 99% of the "Bubbas" we now see in Cali are a poor imitation. Helper D and I visit at least 3 collectives a week to buy a couple grams of their Bubba and their "best shit". It's a great ego boost for us. We have only tried one Bubba out of a hundred or so that was in the same league as ours. I'm not trying to brag. Hell, I didn't breed the fucker. I'm lucky enough to have a very close friend that grows on a massive scale and scours the state for special cuts. His grow room always has 4 or 5 new test cuts blooming for sampling. He's been doing this for 20 years and never grows from seed. Out of the thousands of cuts he's tried, he only grows 3 strains in production. This Bubba is one of them. The Tahoe OG x Chemdog cut that we just got from him proved to be better than his old OG, so the old OG was tossed and the Tahoe Og x Chemdog was rolled into production. Even though he's growing 3 killer strains, he never stops searching for one better.

Yes the Bubba is prone to PM and Mites. But, if you can get those under control...which you can...the payoff is great. It's the best yielding true top shelf plant I've ever grown. We have found that Spectracide with Insect Control is the best way to eliminate the PM and the mites. We spray twice in veg and once week 3 of bloom. We tried to deal with the PM and Mites without chemical sprays and lost the a whole crop...10 Lbs in the trash (which is why I didn't post here for 2 months...depression) Our particular cut is probably not the best choice for you Granola Heads out there. The other problem with this Bubba is that it grows WAY faster and Way bigger and yields WAY more when the bloom room is 60% RH...as opposed to the 40% we used to run. This is why chemical PM control and insane air movement is almost mandatory. For those of you who can grow it to its potential without chemicals, my hat is off to you! I have a feeling with Kitty's experience she could pull it off.

I agree that the Tahoe x Chemdog will probably not be a big yielder. But the whole state has gone OG crazy. The best OG's seem to consistantly command the best prices from the collectives we deal with. I'm not sure they are that much more powerful than the Bubba, but the flavor is second to none. My friends method for getting the best yield from the OG is to grow 4 plants per sq ft and remove the large side branches. With a sealed room and CO2 he's still only getting about 1 Lb per 1000 watt light, with each light servicing a 4' x 4' area. With that plant density the Bubbas yield about 1.5 Lbs per 1000 watts. And, of course, there's dozens of very good strains out there that will yield 2 Lbs+/light with that settup. Unfortunately, most collectives pay very little for those. Nuff said.
 

woodsmaneh!

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Kitty,
Rather than post a bunch of my pics on your thread, here's a link to a page on my thread with a buttload of bubba pics. Posts 508 and 510 have some good ones. So, your spell worked. I couldn't control myself: https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/407048-20-000-watt-medical-grow-17.html

Our Bubba is a Pre-98. 99% of the "Bubbas" we now see in Cali are a poor imitation. Helper D and I visit at least 3 collectives a week to buy a couple grams of their Bubba and their "best shit". It's a great ego boost for us. We have only tried one Bubba out of a hundred or so that was in the same league as ours. I'm not trying to brag. Hell, I didn't breed the fucker. I'm lucky enough to have a very close friend that grows on a massive scale and scours the state for special cuts. His grow room always has 4 or 5 new test cuts blooming for sampling. He's been doing this for 20 years and never grows from seed. Out of the thousands of cuts he's tried, he only grows 3 strains in production. This Bubba is one of them. The Tahoe OG x Chemdog cut that we just got from him proved to be better than his old OG, so the old OG was tossed and the Tahoe Og x Chemdog was rolled into production. Even though he's growing 3 killer strains, he never stops searching for one better.

Yes the Bubba is prone to PM and Mites. But, if you can get those under control...which you can...the payoff is great. It's the best yielding true top shelf plant I've ever grown. We have found that Spectracide with Insect Control is the best way to eliminate the PM and the mites. We spray twice in veg and once week 3 of bloom. We tried to deal with the PM and Mites without chemical sprays and lost the a whole crop...10 Lbs in the trash (which is why I didn't post here for 2 months...depression) Our particular cut is probably not the best choice for you Granola Heads out there. The other problem with this Bubba is that it grows WAY faster and Way bigger and yields WAY more when the bloom room is 60% RH...as opposed to the 40% we used to run. This is why chemical PM control and insane air movement is almost mandatory. For those of you who can grow it to its potential without chemicals, my hat is off to you! I have a feeling with Kitty's experience she could pull it off.

I agree that the Tahoe x Chemdog will probably not be a big yielder. But the whole state has gone OG crazy. The best OG's seem to consistantly command the best prices from the collectives we deal with. I'm not sure they are that much more powerful than the Bubba, but the flavor is second to none. My friends method for getting the best yield from the OG is to grow 4 plants per sq ft and remove the large side branches. With a sealed room and CO2 he's still only getting about 1 Lb per 1000 watt light, with each light servicing a 4' x 4' area. With that plant density the Bubbas yield about 1.5 Lbs per 1000 watts. And, of course, there's dozens of very good strains out there that will yield 2 Lbs+/light with that settup. Unfortunately, most collectives pay very little for those. Nuff said.

You will find you get better results with higher RH than lower, the reason for this is the Stomata are open fully at higher RH 60/70% and can pig out on all the Co2. Some people cut RH back in the last 2 weeks of flower to help simulate end of season, I don't.

http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/54/390/2141.full.pdf

ton's of science on the subject,

I like learning and connecting the dots to make sure everything I do is in support of the finest plants I can grow, I was supprised how important RH is, I had a guy in a hydro shop who I thought knew everything tell me to grow at 30% that's like having a viper with a 4 cylinder in it. Always check the facts. RH is also why lots of people fail when using Co2.
 

Jozikins

Well-Known Member
You will find you get better results with higher RH than lower, the reason for this is the Stomata are open fully at higher RH 60/70% and can pig out on all the Co2. Some people cut RH back in the last 2 weeks of flower to help simulate end of season, I don't.

http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/54/390/2141.full.pdf

ton's of science on the subject,

I like learning and connecting the dots to make sure everything I do is in support of the finest plants I can grow, I was supprised how important RH is, I had a guy in a hydro shop who I thought knew everything tell me to grow at 30% that's like having a viper with a 4 cylinder in it. Always check the facts. RH is also why lots of people fail when using Co2.
You beat me to the punch! I wanted to be the smart guy ;_;
 

Toolage 87

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Got a Co2 Question for you guys. I don't want to buy a CO2 bottle because where my flowering area is in my room and I'm in there alot of the time because well because its almost a whole house in 1 to a point.

TV, Comp, Internet, Gaming systems, music and such all I'm missing is a sink, shower and a toilet haha. :P

Besides that is there any other way that I can make Co2 and not doing the water, sugar and yest method because I want it to last longer.
 

Jozikins

Well-Known Member
Nothing is more price effective and flat out effective as a co2 bottle. You can also use dry ice, and there are lots of other methods, but nothing works like the real deal. I've heard a foliar fritzzing with club soda will add co2, but that was when I was first trying to grow pot back in the day. It was from the "Dr. Green Thumb's: I Grow Chronic" video

Can you vent your grow room to the outside? Can you contain the co2 within your grow room? Would it be within your grow budget to buy the minimal supplies to seal your grow room for co2? If so I suggest it. If your grow room is small, you may not ever see the benefit of co2, but there are slow-release co2 pads are available in most major hydro shops. I've never used one since I bought my whole co2 system, but I did see huge yields from my mini-grow-cab set up. I've been trying to figure out what was missing for the longest time, but I think co2 might have been a factor. Although I have read many things suggesting that co2 is useless in small grow cabs. But you can't argue with results, right? Yeah, most of the time you can.
 
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