Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

Originally Posted by matatan

question for ya, when do you start to add bloom? do you cut back on gro when you start the bloom?
my guess- when you start flower, gro @ 1-2ml for first 2 weeks of flower and bloom @5ml throughout? maybe 1-2ml more week 6ish?

Those numbers are high for my tastes. I feed more grow during flowering than I do bloom and feed at less than a tsp/gallon. Sometimes I give them a 50/50 shot of grow and bloom, but mostly it's just grow.

Originally Posted by BudHound

HB - Have you ever experienced some sort od delay using Dyna in Hydro? For some reason its been a month and still see no bud formation for this stage of time. Some pistils are present, but no bud forming yet. I'm thinking to cut back on Grow 1m/gal since I see leaves good in green. My temp have been at mid 85 and humidity high 60. Just thought id ask you since you have more extensive knowledge in hydro.

I use protek, magpro, grow, bloom, root excelurator, primordial sea of green, rootemenary, and hygrozume
I keep everything at 5.8 PH, 1-1.2 EC and about 550-575ppm on a combo Hanna meter. I'm looking to cut out most products except the dyna and see what results I see in two weeks. Also use H202 for first two days once I switch resvoir mix to santize some of the equip. Any input would be appreciated.

I think you're using too many products but use whatever works for you. In regards to a 'flowering delay', I have not noticed anything like that. Strains flower for the same amount of time as always and budsets form as usual.

Originally Posted by homebrewer

I feed more grow during flowering than I do bloom and feed at less than a tsp/gallon. Sometimes I give them a 50/50 shot of grow and bloom, but mostly it's just grow.

copy. 4ml gro, 1-2ml bloom.
i remember reading you use koolbloom, when do you add and how much?
do you cut gro out at any point of flowering?
whats your thoughts of dry koolbloom?

sorry for the barrage of questions man lol dont have much time, your a fucking genious, dont take things personal if i dont follow your advice lol i feel i need to get the feel of MY plants and to do that i need to know what they DONT like... n that means testing there limits and watching/reading/hypothesizing/learing from their reactions. RESPECT

Which one did better than the other? I skimmed through the thread and found no pics of the comparison or any final conclusion, maybe it was just bad luck? lol

Originally Posted by GOLDBERG71

I've read so many of your post I can't remember where I read it but I believe you swap out a little bloom for a little grow during flower. I'm wondering if you can give me a little more detail as to what the ratio is that you use and why? Also I was wondering if you use anything else with the standard DG (grow, bloom, mag pro, and pro tekt)? Is there any other time when you add something other than those 4 products and if so which ones are they and what dosage do you use? I realize I have to experiment but I'm hoping your can save me some time and point me in the right direction.

THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOU POSTS. They have been very helpful to me and I can only assume others as well.

I use both grow and bloom together in hydro but in promix, I mostly feed with grow. I go over a lot of that stuff in this thread.

Originally Posted by matatan

copy. 4ml gro, 1-2ml bloom.
i remember reading you use koolbloom, when do you add and how much?
do you cut gro out at any point of flowering?
whats your thoughts of dry koolbloom?

sorry for the barrage of questions man lol dont have much time, your a fucking genious, dont take things personal if i dont follow your advice lol i feel i need to get the feel of MY plants and to do that i need to know what they DONT like... n that means testing there limits and watching/reading/hypothesizing/learing from their reactions. RESPECT

I don't use koolbloom with DG. Koolbloom dry is a lot like magpro actually, it's a good product when used correctly and I only used it in hydro.

Originally Posted by Blaze23

Which one did better than the other? I skimmed through the thread and found no pics of the comparison or any final conclusion, maybe it was just bad luck? lol

Skim harder?

Can you explain how to calculate the new ratio when mixing 2 different products such as GROW and BLOOM. I see you prefer a 1-3-2 ratio and you state you achieve this by mixing these 2 formulas. Is this a 1 to 1 mixture? I know grow is 7-9-5 and bloom is 3-12-6 but it can't be as simple as adding them together and dividing by 2 is it? If so I can figure the correct mixture and it's obviously not 1 to 1.

Originally Posted by GOLDBERG71

Can you explain how to calculate the new ratio when mixing 2 different products such as GROW and BLOOM. I see you prefer a 1-3-2 ratio and you state you achieve this by mixing these 2 formulas. Is this a 1 to 1 mixture? I know grow is 7-9-5 and bloom is 3-12-6 but it can't be as simple as adding them together and dividing by 2 is it? If so I can figure the correct mixture and it's obviously not 1 to 1.

It is as simple as adding and then dividing, especially since grow and bloom are identical other than the NPK values.

So I think if you do some quick math, you'll find that 80% bloom and 20% grow lands you around a 1-3-1.5. Add in some protekt and maybe you're closer to a 1-3-2?

If you really want to get fancy, you could factor in the use of magpro as well which means you might go 2/3 bloom and 1/3 grow which puts you around 1-2.5-1.3. The addition of magpro and protekt probably gets you in the ballpark of 1-3-2 again.

I like this ratio for hydro. Dirt/soil/promix is a different story.

Do you have a preferred ratio for soil? Like I mentioned earlier I'm using 50/50 pro mix/perlite my thinking is this allows better drainage as well as more air in the medium. Making it in my mind half way hydro lol?! For some reason I like to be able to water each individual plant as it needs its as opposed to automated watering. I have trust issues with trusting timers. Thanks for the formula . . I didn't think it could be that simple although it does get more complicated not using equal proportions. You've convinced me I'm running hot. Even though I'm not seeing signs of it yet I'm worried I will soon. I'm closing in on week 4 and I have had a few yellow leaves recently all lower that were dry and brittle but I thought that was due to the heat from dehumidifier. Now I'm not so sure that really is the cause of the problem.

Originally Posted by GOLDBERG71

Do you have a preferred ratio for soil? Like I mentioned earlier I'm using 50/50 pro mix/perlite my thinking is this allows better drainage as well as more air in the medium. Making it in my mind half way hydro lol?! For some reason I like to be able to water each individual plant as it needs its as opposed to automated watering. I have trust issues with trusting timers. Thanks for the formula . . I didn't think it could be that simple although it does get more complicated not using equal proportions. You've convinced me I'm running hot. Even though I'm not seeing signs of it yet I'm worried I will soon. I'm closing in on week 4 and I have had a few yellow leaves recently all lower that were dry and brittle but I thought that was due to the heat from dehumidifier. Now I'm not so sure that really is the cause of the problem.

I either hit them with all grow or 50/50 grow/bloom in flower. If the plant needs to be more green, it gets grow. If it's green enough and done 'stretching', then I'll hit it with a grow/bloom mix. DG's 7-9-5 works very well for flower in promix.