Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

hey HB question for ya..
i have an aerocloner i just purchased at a very good price and plan on running a flood n drain 3x3 table under 600whps. i have 2yrs growing n have kept it simple growing in 3-5gal pots of coco, hand watering, using gh micro/bloom(lucas/h3ad) with a few addictives like sweet raw and calmag+.

since i will be cloning out of an aerocloner i have no means of getting the clones into rockwool(or do i?), so i was thinking with going what i know, small pots maybe 1-2gal w coco as many as i can fit in the 3x3 table. iv never seen anyone on this site running flood n drain w coco, they all say its not a good idea, it will clog up your fill/drain.
but if i were to use fabric pots where there isnt any holes, and flood like if it where rockwool i shouldnt have any blockage issues because none of the coco will be exposed . am i right or am i right?? lol

flooding will have to be minimal compared to rockwool probably only once or twice per day i understand that. is there anything else i should be aware of and plan for??

my tap is 200-250ppm, what would be a good flowering grow/bloom/protekt ml per gal, feeding coco with my tap?

great work dude! awesome detailed threads

Originally Posted by matatan

since i will be cloning out of an aerocloner i have no means of getting the clones into rockwool(or do i?),

If you wanted to work with rockwool, what you could do is take the rooted cutting from your aero cloner and set it in the rockwool block (I like 6" blocks). There will be some 'air space' around the roots after placing the cutting in the circular cutout which can then be filled in with a little coco to insure the roots don't dry out. Top-water for a few days until the roots have grown into the blocks and voila, you're good to go.

Personally, I wouldn't run coco in flood and drain but if you want to be the guy that shows us all it can be done and it doesn't create a big mess, have at it.

my tap is 200-250ppm, what would be a good flowering grow/bloom/protekt ml per gal, feeding coco with my tap?

I would suggest RO water. In any event, if you like the results you're getting with GH, feed at the same EC with DynaGro. High quality, balanced fertilizers are consistent and stable and are trouble-free to work with. The same EC can be used regardless of the brand.

I have a bag of rockwool "croutons" - something like that might fill in the hole too, or perhaps even filling a large netpot with these like soil could be done in lieu of cubes altogether. The rockwool in this form has different characteristics and tends to get more soggy however.

Originally Posted by homebrewer

If you wanted to work with rockwool, what you could do is take the rooted cutting from your aero cloner and set it in the rockwool block (I like 6" blocks). There will be some 'air space' around the roots after placing the cutting in the circular cutout which can then be filled in with a little coco to insure the roots don't dry out. Top-water for a few days until the roots have grown into the blocks and voila, you're good to go.

Personally, I wouldn't run coco in flood and drain but if you want to be the guy that shows us all it can be done and it doesn't create a big mess, have at it.



I would suggest RO water. In any event, if you like the results you're getting with GH, feed at the same EC with DynaGro. High quality, balanced fertilizers are consistent and stable and are trouble-free to work with. The same EC can be used regardless of the brand.

I'm currently running a flood and drain with 3 gallon smart pots and roots coco flooding for 15min every 8 hours with a 5-6" flood and these things are thriving! Also straight tap and feeding at half what DG recc on there hydro chart but replacing 25% of the bloom with grow formula and mag pro at 1.25 And pro tekt at 3ml/gal ( thanks HB) I'm on week 3 today of flower and there happy so far

Originally Posted by homebrewer

I would suggest RO water. In any event, if you like the results you're getting with GH, feed at the same EC with DynaGro. High quality, balanced fertilizers are consistent and stable and are trouble-free to work with. The same EC can be used regardless of the brand.

i never pass 1000ppm if i get heavy handed i just add fresh water. but when i switch to dynagro i will adapt your philosophy of 1-3-2, will i be ok going with DGs recommended hydro chart then adding fresh water to get ideal ppm range?
do/can u recommend any specific brand of RO machine?

Originally Posted by dickkhead

I'm currently running a flood and drain with 3 gallon smart pots and roots coco flooding for 15min every 8 hours with a 5-6" flood and these things are thriving!

pics??? thread??? id love to follow along and watch your ladies grow up.

Originally Posted by matatan

i never pass 1000ppm if i get heavy handed i just add fresh water. but when i switch to dynagro i will adapt your philosophy of 1-3-2,

It's just that with 200-250 ppm water, it'll be hard to maintain beautiful girls all the way to the end. That's quite a large amount of calcium, chloride, sodium, sulfate and magnesium in your water and I think by the end of the grow, your plants will show you that they did not need all of that. My water is where yours is which is why i use RO.RO is not necessary to grow plants but you'll get better yields and healthier plants with RO as apposed to your tap water.

will i be ok going with DGs recommended hydro chart then adding fresh water to get ideal ppm range?

I think their proportions are fairly accurate so if you scale things back to a lower ppm, I think you'll be set. You wont need magpro with that water you're using. If you have it and wanted to use it, maybe 1/2ml per gallon would be enough.

do/can u recommend any specific brand of RO machine?

I use the hydrologic stealth 200 because it's the only one in its size that is offered.

Also if you have a costco where you live, you can't beat the quality for the price of their unit- I think it even has the uv stage and the whole kit w/tank & faucet is $120. Anyone could install in an hour or 2 at most... The replacement filters are also available there for a good price. I found a 1/2" clear tubing slips tightly over the end of the faucet and I just route to refill my 5 gallon water bottles on the floor in advance and use as needed in my res.

hey HB, youve probly been asked this before, IDK. Have you ever used the FoxFarm line up of nutes? I was jus curious as to your opinion of them. My buddy jus ordered the whole line-up. like 8 or 9 bottles of shit. granted your probly only using 3 or 4 at one time. bout like me i sposse.

I finally got some F+ and have been using it, dont know if its really making a difference yet, but will continue with it.