UTA's indoor organics, and waterfarmin' closet: Blue Widow, Querkle, Qleaner, OGK

Matt Rize

Matt Rize

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upthearsenal said:
I can elaborate fully in the future, still working on it. I feel I would need a couple successful runs to really get a veganic soil mixture going perfectly. The veg mixture is easy, and for now the concentrate I mentioned has been doing well for flowering.

But really, if you're working on one it's pretty straight forward, as I'm sure you've gathered, not simple but straight forward. Use only vegan fertilizers (there's lots out there, use them all. Rize's thread has lots of info about slow release fertz), and make sure the P source is bioavailable, because like I said, the veg mix is easy with the kelp and such, but soft rock phos. is less available. It doesn't seem like it is by too much, you just have to cook your mixture well.
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words of wisdom here. I just wanted to stop by and say hello. Have you tried cottonseed meal? I like the profile, but have a hard time finding a good source as most cotton is grown using tons of chems and toxins.

Don't stress the worm castings (imo). Even the commercially available stuff is veggie fed (check the labels). I know nature's solution (sold for way too much $ in grow stores) is all veggie. Just think of EWC as compost.
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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Matt Rize said:
words of wisdom here. I just wanted to stop by and say hello. Have you tried cottonseed meal? I like the profile, but have a hard time finding a good source as most cotton is grown using tons of chems and toxins.

Don't stress the worm castings (imo). Even the commercially available stuff is veggie fed (check the labels). I know nature's solution (sold for way too much $ in grow stores) is all veggie. Just think of EWC as compost.
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Hey man, haven't tried cottonseed meal, cotton is grown like crazy here, I wonder if I could find it. They don't have it at any garden stores, but that's not a surprise, all they have at the stores down here is bone and blood meal:
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I recently got some soybean meal I'm stoked to try out... I agree about the worm castings, I know what mine get fed (veggies and corn meal) so I don't trip. I know I've said this before, but I would never deprive my soil of castings, just doesn't make sense.

There's these worm castings sold around here, I think they are cultivated somewhat locally, but they are EXPENSIVE, it's like $10 for a couple lbs... I get like 15-20lbs bi-monthly, glad I don't pay for the stuff...
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
upthearsenal said:
Hey man, haven't tried cottonseed meal, cotton is grown like crazy here, I wonder if I could find it. They don't have it at any garden stores, but that's not a surprise, all they have at the stores down here is bone and blood meal:
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I recently got some soybean meal I'm stoked to try out... I agree about the worm castings, I know what mine get fed (veggies and corn meal) so I don't trip. I know I've said this before, but I would never deprive my soil of castings, just doesn't make sense.

There's these worm castings sold around here, I think they are cultivated somewhat locally, but they are EXPENSIVE, it's like $10 for a couple lbs... I get like 15-20lbs bi-monthly, glad I don't pay for the stuff...
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What veggies you feeding? I just started my worm bin up, they are getting scraps from mushroom hunting, and a little fruit and veg.
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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They get LOTS of fruit, I eat a lot of fruit so I dump a lot of skins and such in there. Mango skins, apple cores (I cut off little pieces from the core to toss in, not the whole thing.), I sometimes get a spoon and scrape the inside of a banana skin and toss that in ( was told that the skins won't be eaten, and will just rot). I toss in lettuce and tomato bits as well, also some carrot shavings. Pretty much whatever I eat I toss in, as long as it won't take a long time to get eaten. Avocado is good, but not the skins so much, I like to toss what I can scrape from the inside, that usually goes pretty quick. But yeah, a lot of the time I'll just toss in a little chunk of what I'm eating, you'll notice that they aren't very picky, lol. I personally don't like whenever bits of food I add stay there for a while, so that's basically what I base my selection on, what they eat fastest.
 
Dwezelitsame

Dwezelitsame

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these pics taken on last sunday i think it was
not really sure i do know it was a bright sunny day

cause i was collecting my worm castings or worm shit

first i run water through to collect the dark water you see sitting on botoom to the right plants love this liquid worm shit

then i let dry a little and start pinching off the top of my coco mix as worms get exposed to sun or bright light they go deeper into the pile

worms have this thing against the light no eyses but cant stand light hitting body

so once you reduce pile to about 1/4 size removing shit -and worms going deeper in -then you merly dump whats left of stack with worms in it into the newly setup worm bed -strips of soaked news paper then a processed coca shell bed

i normally put worms back in on half the farm then start feeding on other half

worms will migrate to food then i collect the shitty side i could not get alot of before

i do this before i start my outside vegatable garden and spread the bounty around with my dehydrated cow manure bone and blood meal and garden lime

my inside loves the castings to


i also run a compost pile the worms is a form of composting just on a different scale -almost micro

i have to keep them inside for winter so i keep in my shed or guarage

they like certain things stay away from meats citriss onins stuff like that

worms like growin an gardening -a very rewarding hobby






not last sun old now just thought i go get them and throw them up -so you a wormy guy to hegh
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faderharley

faderharley

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upthearsenal said:
Oh yeah, it turned out great. I've been meaning to give a smoke report soon, just been neglecting it. I was actually waiting for the either the HB or the CK to finish so I could post one big update with the harvest and BW smoke report. Either way, it was a nice plant and good smoke. I have a couple in veg right now, and one in flower.

I cut off a cola from the HB and it's really good. It tastes pretty crazy and the high is nice, but it isn't quite done yet, maybe a couple more weeks. The CK looks just about ready though, lookinh forward to that one.

Also looking into getting a light mover, considering my rectangular space.

Thanks everyone for following thus far and I'll try to keep the updates coming, and I am still watching everyone's grows.
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Looking foward towards you BW smoke report as well. My BW had the after-taste of blueberrys and smells like juicy fruit w/an intense uplifting buzz that last for hours....the nuggets are hard and dense..
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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faderharley said:
Looking foward towards you BW smoke report as well. My BW had the after-taste of blueberrys and smells like juicy fruit w/an intense uplifting buzz that last for hours....the nuggets are hard and dense..
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Yeah man stay tuned, chop day is getting closer so I'll have a nice update soon... I agree about the BW, I'm diggin' this strain. The main thing for me is it's potency, I was given the great opportunity to give a report a member's sample, which was some pretty dank Serious Seeds AK. Yet it wasn't super tasty and wasn't too strong, after smoking a bowl I'd have a nice buzz, then I'd load a bowl of the BW in my taster.... and you could tell the difference in potency. I could get more into it but I'll save it for the report.

Actually, for anyone interested:

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/395741-testing-beneficial-bacteria-ebb-flow.html

It's a nice test, homebrewer is a great grower with good ideas. His conclusion is in a final write-up you can request via pm, it's a nice read.
 
ThurgoodJ

ThurgoodJ

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faderharley said:
Looking foward towards you BW smoke report as well. My BW had the after-taste of blueberrys and smells like juicy fruit w/an intense uplifting buzz that last for hours....the nuggets are hard and dense..
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What you said. Looking forward to the report as well. My BW was one of the best strains I've grown so far...had that same blueberryish after-taste and had a fruit punch type smell to it. Buzz was great, nice and potent, and the buds were almost rock hard.

Edit: BTW, Unfortunately it was my only seed, and I never got to take any cuttings from her in time. Good thing is (and this is kinda ironic), Dinafem seeds are one of the cheapest out there. Right now I have 9 Nirvana Bubbleicious seedlings going, and 1 Dinafem Royal Haze. They're all almost 4 weeks old, and guess which one is thriving the most...yep the RH.
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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I was dying to get some tga gear, so I got a few to chill my urges:

Pick and Mix TGA Subcool Seeds Querkle
Pick & Mix Seeds per pack - 01 Seeds Pick and Mix 1 £5.99
Pick and Mix TGA Subcool Seeds Space Bomb
Pick & Mix Seeds per pack - 01 Seeds Pick and Mix 2 £11.98

Hope my Querkle is female, and one of the Space Bomb is male.... I also got the LAST Querkle pick & mix... wanted to get two of each but I think I might just buy a pack later in the year, along with some Vortex.
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

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upthearsenal said:
I was dying to get some tga gear, so I got a few to chill my urges:

Pick and Mix TGA Subcool Seeds Querkle
Pick & Mix Seeds per pack - 01 Seeds Pick and Mix 1 £5.99
Pick and Mix TGA Subcool Seeds Space Bomb
Pick & Mix Seeds per pack - 01 Seeds Pick and Mix 2 £11.98

Hope my Querkle is female, and one of the Space Bomb is male.... I also got the LAST Querkle pick & mix... wanted to get two of each but I think I might just buy a pack later in the year, along with some Vortex.
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you come visit and ill get you cuts...
 
faderharley

faderharley

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upthearsenal said:
Yeah man stay tuned, chop day is getting closer so I'll have a nice update soon... I agree about the BW, I'm diggin' this strain. The main thing for me is it's potency, I was given the great opportunity to give a report a member's sample, which was some pretty dank Serious Seeds AK. Yet it wasn't super tasty and wasn't too strong, after smoking a bowl I'd have a nice buzz, then I'd load a bowl of the BW in my taster.... and you could tell the difference in potency. I could get more into it but I'll save it for the report.

Actually, for anyone interested:

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/395741-testing-beneficial-bacteria-ebb-flow.html

It's a nice test, homebrewer is a great grower with good ideas. His conclusion is in a final write-up you can request via pm, it's a nice read.
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I'm subbed so I will be in a holding pattern for the Blue Widow report....I'm currently growing my 1st re-grow w/one BW in the mix....I re-call the very 1st time I smoked it, the taste was so familiar and yet I still can not place that taste or smell from the distant past....but I agree it is a 100%er kick-ass buzz that last 4hours and I actually could not sleep for nearly 3 days after smoking it all day long each day after she had dried and cured....it's even better each time I roll a few doobs from the pint jars it is stored in....it just gets better and better....later bro
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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This OGK is very stretchy... I don't like it. The clone I flowered to sex prior to flowering the mother is looking good though, very frosty with a super fuely smell.

My Blue Widow stash (what's left of it) is tasting great, it's cured really well at this point. Perfect time to do the report before I run out of this great nug... run out at least for the next few weeks:eyesmoke:

I'll get it up by the end of the weekend, cheers guys, have a good Saturday night.

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faderharley

faderharley

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Diggin those photos, what's that headband like in taste, and buzz? I've read good things about that strain and strawberry cough....don't knowabout or what is OGK?
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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The headband smells like a gas tank's armpits (if they had armpits, lol) and the taste is crazy. I can't quite describe it, but it's pretty damn bitter... in a good way. The high is nice to, well balanced, a couple tokes and I'm good for about a hour. It also has serious indica crash, which I do enjoy.
-EDIT: that's un-cured not-so ripe HB, so I wouldn't take that^ as anything concrete.-

OGK is short for og kush, and the strawberry cough is yet to be determined, I have a nice one right now in flowering but the last one I harvested was not the best. It hermed out on me and shit so I didn't get to take it as far as I would have liked, although the friends I gave nugs away to said they really liked it.
 
upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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Blue Widow, Dinafem Smoke Report

Let me start off by saying that this stuff is really frosty, once you crack a nug open the center is just PACKED with frost.

This bud is also really dense, I usually fit an oz in my jar of typical buds, but with this stuff an oz filled up a bit more than half the jar. Super dense nugs....

On the inhale this stuff tastes very sweet, and once I exhale I can taste the berry-ness. It's also a very strong taste, it completely engulfs your palette for several minutes after ripping it. It's one of those smokes where you exhale through your nose and even your nostrils can 'taste' it... lol.. It's very smooth but I won't say it's "no cough". Once you take a big rip you will notice just how smooth it is.

The smell is very strong too, this stuff will penetrate plastic containers... I don't know exactly how to describe it, it's not fruity at all, very musky and skunky, but not quite either one... it's hard to pin-point, sorry.

This stuff burns well also, none of that naaaasty crackle (in cured buds) which is something I fucking HATE.

The high is strong, I can say this stuff has increased my tolerance to a point that is slightly annoying. It's not a creeper at all, it'll hit you in the face, under the eyes, right at the exhale. Also lasts long as well, a couple bowls in the bong and my night is over... for a few hours at least. It's a strong indica high, with a crazy but nice crash. I have horrible insomnia and this bud is great for when you need to crash out. I'm a cook at a popular, healthy cuisine restaurant and typically if it's not a busy day I just smoke out under the vents in the kitchen with no problems as far as my performance. Yet, even on slow days this bud will knock me off my game, it makes me slow, indifferent, forgetful, and clumsy, which outside the kitchen is typically an okay thing. All in all, I love indicas and this stuff is a solid indica, with a serious high.

Grow Report:

This stuff was grown in an all veganic mix (I'm pretty sure, I'd have to look at my notes to see exactly what the mix was), this particular mix preformed well, and didn't need a lot of supplementation. The plant was very easy to grow, as most plants are in organic mixes. I LSTed it throughout it's life and it did well. At first it was under the scrog in flowering, but it finished up independently. It grows fast, and flowers hard and fast after week two. One thing that might stop me from keeping it in my garden is it's susceptibility to spidermites, never have I had mites, but all my BW have them, a few have traveled to other plants but I'm still winning the battle, but this plant is seriously prone to mites. I remember looking back on Thurgood's BW thread and he had mentioned something about mites as well. I also have gathered that this strain is pretty stable, I've followed a few journals and seen some old ones and the phenos look very similar.

She was harvested between nine and ten weeks, and the next one I'm harvesting will be at eight weeks, just to see if there's a marked difference.

(Final Evaluation 1-10)

Aroma: 9
Taste: 11
Initial Effect: 9
Overall Effect: 10
Bag Appeal: 8
Overall Impressions of both grow and smoke: 9
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upthearsenal

upthearsenal

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I write long reports, take it or leave it, I love to ramble.

Some other footnotes:

The mites came very late in flowering, and I didn't notice them for a little while, maybe a week. Afterwhich I thought I had gotten rid of them with neem, because they disappeared for almost a month... but I just found some more on the other BWs, the OGK which is next to the only bw in 12/12, and if you look at the close-up nug shot of the HB you can see slight damage on the leafs. It really isn't a serious problem though, especially since I'm getting some azamax soon. Fuck those assholes.

I had also loaded a fat bowl with the intention to smoke it throughout the writing of the report, but instead I took one fat rip, forgot I had a bong next to me and just went off, lol. this is some good ganja :weed:

It might seem like I'm being generous with 1-10 rating, but I'm going to be the most critical of my work, and this bw is legit. I can honestly say with the taste and high this nug is top shelf; big ups to Dinafem, they didn't disappoint. and for a freebee fem, it's pretty sweet. I gave it a 10 on the overall high because it helps with my sleep, which is a problem that dogs me every day.
 
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