1st HID Tent Grow- 600w

Lt. Dan said:

Nice looking setup!
I'd like to sub and watch this grow...... I've got the same light and am thinking about changing my plans in the garage and buying a tent, instead of building a cab.

What kind of tent did you get?
How do you like it?

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eyezla said:

Ok, After a LONG struggle with the "journal" tab in the bottom of "my rollitup" page, I finally got good advice to start a thread on here! This is my 1st thread, as well as my my first real grow as well. I did have 2 grows with CFL's but I was so naive, no nutrients, no ventilation....it just didn't count, lol.

Before I start, there is just one thing I want to say to be a precedent for my grow

I have seen lots of great bud in my day, and my taste has become elite, so now I am striving to grow the best herb possible. I have a friend who grows and he doesn't even PH his water!!! He says he doesnt have the time, or that it doesn't need all the pampering and over analyzing that these "high tech stoners" are getting into.
This was the catalyst that brought me to my grow. His bud was not bad, and neither are Honda's, they are easy, cheap, and most of all, they work. If he wants to grow Honda weed, more power to him, he's probably growing to sell, and it really wasn't bad stuff... But I am growing for my own personal head stash, and I want my bud to be LAMBORGINI!! I am willing to put in the extra time and effort that some may see as tedious or unnecessary, but to me it isn't, I will get joy simply from the sake of tending to my garden...I know this is my 1st grow, so I don't want to get over ambitious about my expectations, But my ultimate mission is this quest to produce not quantity, but the highest quality herb possible.
I am sick of getting decent bud from people but still finding myself too picky and wishing it were better, it is time to manifest my desires and grow that shit myself! I want to have my own perpetual grow with amazing strains, not all the commercial crap that people grow for yield. when the day comes that I get a rare cut of some elite genetics, I want to make sure I don't ruin it. I want to confidently grow out a 16 week sativa with a low yield, but will only do so when I can grow it to lamborgini status, do ya feel me!?
Because of this, I need the input and advice of all you great green thumbs here on RUI, so please feel free to throw out some input or advice or anything you'd like, its all good in my hood. Wow that got long, but it felt like an important part of the grow for you to know where I'm coming from on this. No short cuts, no half ass, trying to get the best damn bud I can possibly achieve, and doin it passionately. So here we go peeps!!!!

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eyezla said:

So after I burnt the plants with the spray, I took alot of the damaged leaves off...they looked like they were chokingly tight at the base of each leaf, and I just decided out with the old, in with the new. However, aside from the burns on the inner parts of the leaves, alot of other leaves started looking really bad at the same time. I didn't remove them because it just seemed like it could be a good diagnostic tool to watch the leaves. I wanted to pull them off but I also didnt want to leave the plants too bare. So a day or 2 later, I mix up my 2nd batch of nutrients for the plants. The first feeding was at 1/2 strength, a few days before, this was a normal strength dosage.(btw, I have a calendar now, so from here on out, I will have more precise dates and scheduled feedings and whatnot. Also I will work on making labels to easily identify which plant is which) I was worried that I could have burned the plants by going full strength too fast on the nutes...but since alot of the leaves looked bad anyway, I couldn't tell if the nutes were an issue or not. My new growth on top looks good, so I figured it was ok, but now i am getting concerned. My new growth is still good, but the bad leaves look much worse, and it feels like something more than damage from that Safer 3n1 spray. I am about to take off all the bad lookin leaves, but wanted to take pics and post them 1st so you all can see them. If you notice, the lemon skunk (pics 1,3,6,7,8,10) has different symptoms than the stinky (pics 2,4,9,11). Lemon has yellowing leaves but the veins remain green, leaves eventually browning in between the veins. The stinky just has yellowing and browning from the tips into the leaves (if that makes sense)

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eyezla said:

BKB, you da man, thanks for the help, I like the link, its definitely gettin bookmarked. I will start a thread in plant problems tomorrow as well. I really want a ph pen, for now I just have the regular kind like for fish tanks, with the solution that you add to a sample of the water with a color coded chart to compare. My water is just tap water that I leave out for a few days in a big deeprock 10 gal bucket, and I use that to water. Thinking about getting a reverse osmosis filter...I want it for me really, and the plants would benefit as well, lol. But I am in colorado, and our tap water seems really nice compared to alot of places so I'm assuming that it isn't a huge issue. Also, since I'm thinkin about it, the plants are in 3qt containers for now. Quick question... Should I still ph the plain water when I'm not using nutes?

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eyezla said:

Ha, well, I sorta jumped the gun and ripped off all the yellows b4 I saw your reply. Some came off easy, but some were totally dead, yet still have very strong stems and i needed scissors. welp, live and learn, thats why I'm here. So to clarify the feeding, they got plain h20 the 1st few days, then 1/2 strength nutes, then full strength, then plain h2o, yesterday they got their 3rd feeding, which was also full strength. The soil I'm using is just the plain ole roots organic soil, plus some perlite mixed in. I do admit that today the plants look much better without those shitty leaves all over, haha. Lets see if any others turn over the next day or 2. Here is where their at now....I think some of the top growth on the Lemon ( closeup pics 1 and 3) looks a little interesting, maybe too hot, I raised the light a few inches today too

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Illumination said:

Came over take a look at your grow per request of BKB

It was the safer that burned them....that and the light but it was because of the light combined with the Safer...I did the same thing and burned my LSD seedling but it recovered well

Your earlier pics showed some symptoms of overwatering...let the soil dry well til the pots feel light or actually weigh them (what I do) as this is the surest method

Here are the meters I use...best prices I ever found for this...a ph meter can be had cheaper than this but I wanted accuracy and durability so chose this one

http://www.eseasongear.com/miphwaphte1.html

http://www.eseasongear.com/hmdiapaqwaqu.html

Ph your feed water AFTER you add nutrients-6.5 ph

If I can be of help lease don't hesitate to ask, will do what I can...if I don't know I will try to help you find or figure it out

Welcome and Keep'em Green

Namaste'

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eyezla said:

Ha, well, I sorta jumped the gun and ripped off all the yellows b4 I saw your reply. Some came off easy, but some were totally dead, yet still have very strong stems and i needed scissors. welp, live and learn, thats why I'm here. So to clarify the feeding, they got plain h20 the 1st few days, then 1/2 strength nutes, then full strength, then plain h2o, yesterday they got their 3rd feeding, which was also full strength. The soil I'm using is just the plain ole roots organic soil, plus some perlite mixed in. I do admit that today the plants look much better without those shitty leaves all over, haha. Lets see if any others turn over the next day or 2. Here is where their at now....I think some of the top growth on the Lemon ( closeup pics 1 and 3) looks a little interesting, maybe too hot, I raised the light a few inches today too

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bekindbud said:

They look alot better, what are you plans on these plants? How long you plan on Veg-ing them? Cant wait to see that Stinky bud up!!!! Are you going to clone them? I wish I had cloned MD to get another crack at her to see what she would be if grown healthy and correctly but its a live and learn. Hahaha thats what being a nOOb is all about. I am and prolly will be a nOOb for at least another grow. I do appreciate the good peeps of RIU that help me and pass the knowledge so that one day I can do the same for some other nOOb that needs the same help.

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eyezla said:

Illumination- Whats up man!!!? Welcome to my grow, thanks for joining in. I like you policy on seeds, probably more vigor in seed growth over clones anyway. I like clones for now just because I am building up my skills, and I don't want my quality to be affected by a potentially bad seed, I like knowing the pheontype of a strain I've seen grown well, mainly just to compare my results to see how close I am to achieving full potential. Once I have skills, I have access to some choice seeds waiting to go, Planning on running MK Ultra and Sage & Sour from T.H. Seeds . But For now, clones feel more practical, they help take some guess work out of the equation.

So I already see a little more leave issues on the lemon skunk, looks like early stages of something. I am gonna just take some initiative and flush those suckers tomo when they need a watering. So A question I have for you, is should I PH my flush water too? I am assuming so, but figured I'd ask.

Also, awesome links for those affordable meter pens. What do you use the TDS/PPM meter for? I do realize they help determine nutrient levels, but I measure that in ml with a graduated syringe. I am always down to get more precise, but I dunno how to exactly to use it. For example, Lets say I'm supposed to have 8ml / gal of the Rhyzotonic (among other additives), which I measure with the syringe, how does that translate into using the TDS pen?

Thanks for the help, much apprec!

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