Well Here Goes Again in the
The Grow Room forums; About damn time, lol ...
04-13-2011, 12:05 PM
04-13-2011, 12:15 PM
That we crack down on those dangerous toddlers? Oh, you mean my 'tard'.
Originally Posted by gumball
04-13-2011, 09:54 PM
So first up this, then an update on the Garden.
My Gov. did the right thing today.
Gov. Schweitzer vetoes repeal of Montana's medical marijuana law
Gov. Schweitzer vetoes repeal of Montana's medical marijuana law Associated Press The Billings Gazette | Posted: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:09 pm
HELENA - Gov. Brian Schweitzer vetoed a bill Wednesday that would have repealed Montana's voter-approved medical marijuana law, saying it would have gone against the will of the people.
That left House and Senate conferees one last gasp at coming up with a compromise proposal to tighten regulation of the booming industry with eight working days left in the session.
Of the 15 states and the District of Columbia that have medical marijuana laws, almost all have struggled with how to adequately regulate a drug that the federal government deems dangerous and addictive but said it would not prosecute as long as users follow state law.
But the Montana Legislature took the unusual step last week of passing a bill sponsored by House Speaker Mike Milburn, R-Cascade, to completely overturn the 2004 ballot initiative that was approved by Montana voters.
Milburn and other Republican legislative leaders say the drug cannot be regulated safely because the drug attracts criminal gangs and addicts the state's youth.
Schweitzer announced his veto of the repeal bill on the Capitol steps along with 16 others he called "frivolous, unconstitutional or in direct contradiction to the expressed will of the people of Montana."
Schweitzer said he agreed the medical marijuana law was written broadly with unanticipated results, but that had to be balanced with the medical needs of Montanans.
"I believe the proper resolution of this unanticipated outcome is not outright repeal, but amendment to serve the original intent," he said.
Many Democrats and a few Republicans have said the marijuana industry needs to be regulated, not done away with, and that there is a legitimate need for people to have access to the drug.
Leaders from both parties say something needs to be done to rein in the state's sprawling medical marijuana industry that now has over 28,000 legal marijuana users.
A measure to overhaul the medical marijuana industry by ratcheting up restrictions on the drug was sent to a committee of senators and republicans Wednesday to determine the final version of the bill.
It may be this Legislature's last chance of acting on the issue with the end of the session drawing near.
Senate Bill 423, carried by Senate Majority Leader Jeff Essmann, R-Billings, had a tumultuous passage through the Legislature. The last minute regulation bill was amended and rewritten several times and in the end, the Senate and House passed two entirely different versions of the proposal.
Essmann said the governor's veto of repeal would increase the pressure for lawmakers to compromise and pass an overhaul.
"We need to come to a resolution on this issue." he said.
The committee of lawmakers from both chambers will meet over the next few days to try and hash out the differences between the measures.
04-13-2011, 10:17 PM
04-13-2011, 11:38 PM
Here's my Tangerine Dream from today. They got 1/4 tsp. Jack's & 1/4 tsp. Morbloom/quart each.
#2 has some spots on those lower leaves. Maybe it needs a bit of Epsom tea in a watering. Any comments welcome.
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04-14-2011, 05:48 AM
I've been trying to keep up with the repeal and I seen that he vetoed it last night, that is awesome. He seemed to be reasonable about it. You cant just stop an initiative because it is poorly regulated. We all know how many government initiatives would need to be thrown out if that was the case.
The garden looks great, almost time to kill the tard!!!
04-14-2011, 11:58 PM
I saw these and wanted to share them.
You can recognize a pioneer by the arrows in his back. - Beverly Rubik
“Power is not alluring to pure minds.” Thomas Jefferson
If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn’t thinking. - Gen. George Patton
Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. - George Bernard Shaw
“Which government is the best? That which teaches us to govern ourselves.” Goethe
“It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority.”- Benjamin Franklin
I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way. - Robert Frost
We learn from history that we do not learn from history. - Georg Wilhelm Hegel
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber - Plato
Liberal – a power worshipper without power. - George Orwell
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. - Cornelius Tacitus
Liberals want the government to be your Mommy. Conservatives want government to be your Daddy. Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult. - Andre Marrou
There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. - Robert Heinlein
The Christian Right is neither. ~Author Unknown
Being ignorant is not so much a shame as being unwilling to learn. - Benjamin Franklin
The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity. - Robert Anthony
Some great quotes I saw.
04-15-2011, 04:25 AM
Daniels I really want to know how the Down Skunk smokes.....I would not be too surprised if its some good smoke that knocks you on your ass. TD looking nice!
04-15-2011, 07:19 PM
I had to add this from a site I love. I am truly sad and embarrassed from this. Just know most of us are sane.
Highlights From Lowlifes: Montana’s 62nd Legislature
This legislative session it seems Montana is ALWAYS in the news. We’ve made “The Colbert Report”, “Anderson Cooper 360″, Huffington Post, New York Times, CNN, and according to Speaker Milburn, he was interviewed by the Swedish World Federation Against Drugs on a radio show. We have yet to confirm this interview’s existence with anyone other than Speaker Milburn, but he assures us that it exists, and naturally, we believe him. After all, he is the one who informed us that Montana is now known as a “source country, just like Columbia” because of our massive marijuana exports. Although the session isn’t quite over, as leadership needed a vacation, here are a few highlights from Montana’s 62nd Legislative session.
Special thanks to Hiedi Handford of Montana Connect Magazine for editing and uploading the 300+ testimony videos. Other legislative testimony can be viewed on her YouTube channel here.
- ”I’m going to ask that we take a minute here and reflect upon our own hypocrisy.” Rep. Rob Cook R-Conrad. INDEED.
- “If Jesus Christ himself were here today he would be an opponent of this bill,” Harris Himes speaking against a bill to abolish the death penalty. Yes, Rev. Himes, if you were in the chair, he may indeed approve.
- “It’s poison, a kind of poison, it’s kind of like taking arsenic with Valium in it – it will make you feel good until it kills you. That’s the truth.” Rep. David Howard (R-Park City) speaking about medical marijuana. And we all know marijuana kills…. how many people annually? That’s right Rep. Howard, ZERO.
- “It is God himself who said homosexuality is an abomination and he has various punishments for it….. they will surely be put to death”. Rev. Harris Hines in testimony supporting discrimination of gays. Again, that death thing.
- “The most important reason to repealing medical marijuana is that marijuana and its usage is offensive to God” Rev. Harris Himes. Himes may want to check out Genesis 1:29
- “He (Dr. Carlton Turner) told us he’d take almost any of the other drugs- crank, heroin, methamphetamines under clinical conditions- but he wouldn’t take marijuana. Every time they’d done a human test on it, it scared him half to death.”— Rep David Howard admits FEAR motivates him to lie?
- I’ll never have my brother back, we need to save others people’s brothers.— Rep James Knox, fighting tears as he pimped his brother for marijuana repeal while inadvertently advocating nanny state government.
- “My birth mom told me had abortion been legal, I wouldn’t have been calling her.” Rep James Knox testifying on house floor on an abortion bill, making a great case for post natal abortion.
- Open Cow, Open Woman, Rep Regier compares women to cows. This one defies all explanation.
- “There’s new ways to kill you know, in prisons, they take little pieces of paper. They take their blood, their saliva and do blow darts on the guards, there are new and unique ways to kill.” —Rep Janna Taylor. I’m not sure what Taylor is getting at here.
- “I also voted no on this bill, the body should know that the people who run ponzi schemes, they don’t have any money of their own…. I couldn’t imagine standing in front of my constituents in Park City, where none of them make more than $35,000/yr to say we’re gonna come up with a scheme to get back up to 25,000 of what people have lost investing…….” –Rep. Dave Howard who thinks his constituency is poor.
- Two wrongs don’t make a right- Sen. Verdell Jackson referring to victims of rape and incest. While I’m not a fan of abortion, I wonder if Sen. Jackson would feel differently if he had been raped.
- ”The only way I’d be supportive of that (Dept. of Ag regulating medical marijuana) is if they treated marijuana as a noxious weed.” –Sen. John Brenden (R-Scobey). I grew up in this senate district and I can tell you, nobody up there gives a damn about medical marijuana. Brenden is a bit noxious himself.
- “Across the street from the church was a bevy of good-looking young ladies going in and out of this place……they were growing marijuana across the street…. I didn’t know such good-looking women were interested in horticultural prospects”– Rev. Harris Himes. Where do we find these guys? Himes is made for mockery!
- “I got a medical marijuana business who moved in next door to me and it’s been craziness ever since. You see ‘em them behind their shop, behind the commercial building, they got their arms outstretched, they’re trying to fly. I find people sleeping in my vehicles in front of my business. A month and a half ago they buried a van.”– Austin Kaufman, Billings.
- Rep Ken Peterson: If women would make better choices they wouldn’t get cervical and breast cancer. So defund family planning already.
- If you act gay in public, Rep Ken Peterson wants your felon ass in jail for a decade. Ten years in prison will teach you how to be straight, right?
- Steve Zabawa in SB 423 hearing: “marijuana is illegal! The state of Montana is gonna get arrested!” Zabawa is no stranger to illegal activity, he does sell cars for a living. He also hires most of his employees from the Alpha House, a halfway house for men returning to society after being imprisoned for major crimes. Several of his current sales and management staff are felons, actually. A couple of them defrauded the federal government by filing false FEMA claims after Hurricane Katrina. After serving time, Zabawa hired them back!
- Sen. Ed Walker saying, “I don’t believe it can be reformed. It needs to be repealed. There are times the voters get it wrong, and that is what happened in 2004.” I wonder if we may have also got it wrong in 201o when you were elected, Ed. Just sayin’.
- “Montana is now considered a “source country”, same as Columbia.“- Speaker Mike Milburn (R-Cascade) I wonder why anyone would bury a van filled with marijuana if that is the case. So many questions.
- “Sometimes the most compassionate answer you can give is no you don’t need this,” Senator Rowlie Hutton (R-Havre) said. ”When you love someone you are willing to do an intervention. I love this state, and it’s time we do an intervention,” concluded Hutton, who wants to take away medicine from the ill. Compassionate indeed.
- “The people who use medical marijuana for legitimate uses, they’ve been had. I think they probably feel like the dog who gets in the car and as they’re driving they realize they are going to the vet instead of the park. They got in with the wrong crowd,” testified Sen. Edward Walker (R-Billings). The wrong crowd, Sen. Walker, spends time with you and your buddies at that creepy temple under the rims.
- Tough DUI laws “are destroying a way of life that has been in Montana for years and years,” said Rep. Hale. But medical cannabis is WAY too dangerous.
- “Homosexuals can’t go out into the heterosexual community and try to recruit people, or try to enlist them in homosexual acts,” Peterson says. He provides an example: “‘Here, young man, your hormones are raging. Let’s go in this bedroom, and we’ll engage in some homosexual acts. You’ll find you like it.’” Peterson hasn’t actually seen this happen, he says, because “I don’t associate with that group of people at all… I’ve associated with mainstream people all my life.” Again, those mainstream people hang out at the LDS temple in west Billings.
- And then we have this beauty. You be the judge.
04-16-2011, 08:58 AM
hey daniels, have you heard, you've been had, along with 30,000 other montanans. WOW bro, and these folks were voted in. Their other brother must be a computer hacker...
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