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Reply With QuoteThanks for the update. I already ordered Floralicious.
Today is day 42 of 60 and earlier in the week I started to notice some nute burn. Dumpster is a heavier feeder and at the suggested feeding rates from DG, I’ve kinda felt like I’ve been walking the line of leaf-tip burn this whole time. This is ok in my mind as that means I’m feeding my girls everything they need, plus a little more. However, while the buds still smell fruity and skunky, squeezing them and smelling my fingers reveals the slightest aroma of earthy-nutrients. With that being said, I may be cutting the nutes back by 10-20% (except ProTekt). Of course this only makes the nutrient line cheaper so I’m not complaining. The slight overfeeding may even have contributed to the next issue which was one pH adjustment this week. I’ve gotten to the point where I only check the DG pH about every other day and it had dropped to 5.3 on Friday evening. No harm done and a quick adjustment to around 5.8 fixed that. Also, I cut down the amount of grow formula that I was using with the bloom and by doing so, I'm supplying the plants with more phosphorus than possibly needed. This could also be a culprit. Maybe the fix here isn't to dial back, but to go back to my 1/3 grow, 2/3 bloom ratio?
Spider mites? I did find one leaf with mites on it this past week in a res off-camera, but it was also touching a plant fresh from the veg area that had a few mites on it. The dumpster tray continues to be mite-free and I contribute the added resistance to ProTekt.
Resin? I’m still thinking there is a slight resin difference between the 2 nutrient lines. That doesn’t mean I can’t mix-and-match the DG base with some GH additives at some point but it should be noted that products featuring sea kelp or humic/fulvic acids will increase resin production slightly. Does it make a difference in the smoke? We shall see.
Weight? As far as production goes, DG is keeping up with the best of them. The buds are dense as can be and are an appropriate size given their age. As you can see in the picture, they’re starting to lean on one another which is why I have the strings around the tray.
So moving into this next week, I’ll be adjusting the nutes a little and monitoring the leaves and how the buds smell. Hopefully at the end of this I’ll be able to post a generic schedule for DG. This will of course need tweaked since one round with a line of nutes is hardly enough info to get a good schedule. On the other hand, there are only 3 variables which makes it very easy to tweak.
Resin shots
GH Resin (day 41):
DG Resin (day 42):
Cheers guys!
Thanks for the update. I already ordered Floralicious.
Buds look nice & frosted! From the look of your leaves, they are so dark green that I think your Nitrogen levels are WAY too high for where they need to be, which I think is what's starting to burn your tips too. Def don't want to go through nutrient lockout right now.
What PPM are you feeding right now???
It's not nitrogen burn. It's phosphorus and I know this because of the other reservoirs where I'm running different ratios of bloom and grow. Right now, my NPK ratio for my bloom/grow mix is 1-3-1.5 (or 3.8-11.4-5.8 ) which is not enough N to burn. In addition, I'm running higher levels of nitrogen in other reservoirs and the plants look fantastic.Originally Posted by Mazar i Shariff
I don't have a TDS meter, I just use recommended schedules and tweak from there. But the DG schedule approximates the PPMs at 1435 with a 50ppm base water.
Last edited by homebrewer; 09-27-2010 at 05:11 PM. Reason: typo
Interesting. I'm shocked that at day #42 1435ppm is too much at those ratios. Guess they aren't too heavy of feeders. But I'd have to agree, a 20% cut and seeing how they react would be best. And because you aren't using a PPM meter, don't forget to account for water evaporation in an open reservoir such as yours, incase you are not watering it down here & there already to counter that. While it could be 1435ppm one day, all you need is some evaporation over a 24-48 hour period and next thing ya know it could be closer to the 2,000 range which would be too high, obviously. And the longer the periods are between flushes & fills, the more flux you can see there.
You've really been growing for 10 yrs without a TDS meter? That had to of been the best $200 I spent back in the day. Great multi-function unit.
Last edited by Mazar i Shariff; 09-27-2010 at 05:42 PM.
not nute burn...lack of nutes. nutes dont burn. usualy its the low ph and makes them lack food that makes burns. suberin on the roots stops them from intaking to many nutes. we solve it by flushing and all that did was raise the ph back to where it needs to be to have all elements at the needed levels. ive flushed with full food when ive had this and it went away so its not food.
curious what camera you have. colours look funny green to me. never seen plants have that shade of green in real life.
Minor issues to work out, still a great grow over all. 10 years with no TDS meter and results like this huh? Your either one lucky bastard or simply know what the hell your doing(I choose the later). Id still reccommend a meter. There as cheap as 15 bucks man. Eseasonger.com and if you order over $18.95 you get free shipping. Not trying to cross the line here and tell you what you need to do, you obviously know what your doing just a cheap way of knowing your ppm at all times. As Mazar mentioned when water evap. or the plants us it up at different rates the ppm may increase or decrease depending on how much water their drinking, if their drink more water than nutes, vice versa or consuming nutes/water equally. In my experience the ppm usually rises as water is loss and when you top off it lowers it quite a bit. As iam sure you know the only sure fire way of knowing is a meter.
Didn't mean to rant either,honest,lol.
Peace and good vibes
Nutes can burn. pH is fine.
Upper-end Nikon dSLR with professional glass.curious what camera you have. colours look funny green to me. never seen plants have that shade of green in real life.
I change my res once per week and top off with fresh water each day. A TDS meter gives me a total number but doesn't let me know exactly what nutes are being over-used. In this case, I believe it to be phosphorus based on my notes and other DG reservoirs that I'm experimenting with. A TDS meter certainly has a place in hydroponics but I don't see how that would help any more than good notes and reading plants (or attempting toMinor issues to work out, still a great grow over all. 10 years with no TDS meter and results like this huh? Your either one lucky bastard or simply know what the hell your doing(I choose the later). Id still reccommend a meter. There as cheap as 15 bucks man. Eseasonger.com and if you order over $18.95 you get free shipping. Not trying to cross the line here and tell you what you need to do, you obviously know what your doing just a cheap way of knowing your ppm at all times. As Mazar mentioned when water evap. or the plants us it up at different rates the ppm may increase or decrease depending on how much water their drinking, if their drink more water than nutes, vice versa or consuming nutes/water equally. In my experience the ppm usually rises as water is loss and when you top off it lowers it quite a bit. As iam sure you know the only sure fire way of knowing is a meter.
Didn't mean to rant either,honest,lol.
Peace and good vibes). Thanks for the link, I'll keep that in mind for the future.
Last edited by homebrewer; 09-27-2010 at 07:51 PM. Reason: responded to new quote
like nikons here as well.
and no, nutes dont burn. look up suberin. how if they cant take in more than they need as this works.
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