CaB STeAlth Grow /w Cfl'S - FiRst groW - MisTy, Speed Queen - Page 3

DOT5262 · #21 11-13-2007, 08:35 PM

what i have it in now is just potting soil

BIGMIKE13 · #22 11-15-2007, 11:45 AM

sorry man your plants are suffering from you not having proper ventalation, temp, soil, watering problems..etc.

good luck, plants need all this to live...

DOT5262 · #23 11-17-2007, 10:55 AM

69-81 humidity
31-51 Humidity

Current 81 degreez after aprox 9 hours of having light on
31 humidity

also i have a few things of nutes would i be able to use.. say tomato food ? or mG fert till i get specific nutes

the values r as folloes
tomato food 5-10-10
nameless thing 12-18-6
MG 15-30-15
MG 30-10-10

i think the last mirical grow thing would work the best? it has the most nitrogen content and a decent level of the other 2 so it would be good for veg? then the first MG would be decent for flowering ?

and finally for the updates. i have a few new sprouts comming up. i have no doubt they will get close to catching up to the ones who have been growing for weeks. first pic = new sprout
second pic = older sprout seems like its finnally comming out of stunning new growth at top but still if yellow/brown around edges
third pic = new seed poking out of ground
fourth = old sprout severe brownin on some leaves (as seen) and some new growth and very short but just as developed as other sprout. mabe 2 diffrent strains?
fifth pic is cfl above all the new cups with seeds prolly around 8-9 total 3 have sprouts 2-3 have seed's poking out of soil then 2-3 have no signs of life 1 seed = looks like it wont make it

Humboldt · #24 11-17-2007, 02:06 PM

Congrats on the sprouts, I sure hope you aren't feeding them any nutes as that would definitely cause the yellowing/browning also heat causes browning of the leaves.

This may help you in your journeys,

http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/plant_abuse.html

DOT5262 · #25 11-17-2007, 02:20 PM

yes ive seen that page be4 very nice listing with pics i havent used any nutes. i was just wondering if any of those would work most nutes should be about the same as long as the levels are correct. the high N level nutes should be good for vEg and the higher K should be better for flowering but i would like someone to say"yes that would work" be4 i go giving them to my plants so far i think the browning was just caused by underwatering mixxed with ave-high heat so far i havent got any temp readings over 81 so i dont think thats to bad once i actully have ventalation in the grow room it should be perfect tempature 70's ish im guessing. as for my lighting situation i think i might pick up a Cooltube HPS right now i have only 1 x 105 cfl and one smaller odor eliminating one my ghetto rig is only setup to hold 3 and it would only hold them vertical so i could either

get more 125 watt cfls 2-3 and rig up new fixture ( enviorlight 12,000 lumens)
get a t-5 Fixture ( 20,lumens )
or pick up a hps cooltube ( 55,000 lumenS )

so i fuigred the hps cooltube would be the most effective/professional light fixture for the price

Edit : my bad about the crappy pics. even when my camera is perfectly still it gives me blurry shots but you can see the overall shape/size/color from the pics ( ima buy myself a new camera for x-mas

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TheGardenMan · #26 11-19-2007, 10:03 AM

How much light are you giving them, and how do you have a fan on them?

DOT5262 · #27 11-19-2007, 12:14 PM

right now i only got 1 x 105 watt Cfl but then again there only 2-3 inch sprouts. i fuigred that would be sufficient and how do i have a fan on them ? i dont i havent put in ventalation yet. i just put 2 of the ones that were stunted (3 weeks old+ ) into bigger pots 2 gal and im pretty sure i just stunted em again... transfering to new pots = i suck at the soil wouldent clump right and i think i bumped there roots around to much woll doin it.... im a murderer

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i got a few questions for anyone who wants to help
1. is there a thing you put on a drill that can cut say a 6 ft hole if so whats it called. i got one that will cut a 2 inch hole but i would need one 3-4 times as big for ventalation

2. im still looking for opinions if a hps cooltube would work in my contained enviorment only 3 ft height

3.will the nutes i mentioned above work ?

last. my roots on the 2 plants i just transplanted were long and went like strait down in the soil not so much to the sides of the cup, is there a reason for that? and is there any way to make them branch twards the edges more ? cuz the roots were just wrapped aroud the bottom of the cup in a circle ( keep in mind the plants are 2-3 inches tall...and the roots are atleast double that...

Humboldt · #28 11-19-2007, 02:18 PM

This is what you are describing looks like,

Sorry I do not know the exact name but they come in all kinds of sizes and can be found at any hardware store.

I'm quite certain an hps cool tube would be fine in your space with proper ventilation, provided you don't veg very long and plan to flower sooner than later.

For nutes I know nothing about but I'm using foxfarms product and they seem to work well, before that I was using MG.

http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/buyfox.html

I found foxfarm products near me from that link.

Your root situation seems strange but I'm thinking since you transplanted that they will be fine and continue to grow normally, I wouldn't worry about that until the plant is actually looking sick or whatnot. keep it fed and plenty of light, also get a fan and some ventilation in there that will help tremendously.

Hope some of what I wrote helps, good luck to you and your growing experiences!

Slam · #29 11-19-2007, 02:30 PM

" 1. is there a thing you put on a drill that can cut say a 6 ft hole"

That would be big enough to walk through...

DOT5262 · #30 11-19-2007, 02:49 PM

ok smartass use some common sence and assume i ment 6'' and not 6' your taking advantage of the fact i was up at 2 am

and yes humbolt thats what i was refering to. you know how much they run for? if not ill just check whenever i get around to running to the store i plan on using general hydroponics ferts there cheap and ive seen people who know what there doing suggest them as for the roots i was just wondering if i did soemthing wrong to make them grow like that cuz it grew strait down to the bottom then had a few inches of roots just tangled/wrapped around the bottom of the cup.. hopefully the new pots will fix that ... and the fact i kinda put the roots in sideways... thats how they fell and i didnt wanna grab em and move the roots with my hands so i just covered them with soil as fast as i could ( the dirt fell apart when i tryed to transplant it didnt stick as well as i woulda hoped)