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Alright here is a pic of my light it is a 8 bulb 54 watt t5 sunleaves light. I have just transplanted a few into the styrofoam cups and have saved a fewafter looking this morning. That last post was to determine sex, and clone.
Just got Foxfarm nutes and used it first lastnight.
 

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Alright here is a pic of my light it is a 8 bulb 54 watt t5 sunleaves light. I have just transplanted a few into the styrofoam cups and have saved a fewafter looking this morning. That last post was to determine sex, and clone.
Just got Foxfarm nutes and used it first lastnight.
Looking better....The ones that look streched can be burried to the first leaves upon transplanting for a stronger stem.

Alright well I have a plan to move them outdoors when the time comes. Now I plan to clone them and have a few questions. Can I twist tie a trash bag to a stem so that it gets 12/12 of light or do I have to clone and switch the light to 12/12 because then id have to seperate my room and that would be a pain in the ass... Also at what age can I clone?
Cloning can be done when the plant developes enough to have the second internodal stem growing between the fan leaves and the main stem. This stem should have about 3 to 5 leaves on it, b/c it will be the stem used for cloning. The overall height of the plant should be at least a foot tall, but the best indicator is the internodal growth b/c every plant is different.

I've never heard of using a bag to control the light cycle, but it would possible work for sexing purposes only, if the bag was light proof. Separating the room would be the best way even though it might be a pain in the ass. It doesn't take a lot of light to interrupt the light cycle. You want total darkness. The plant only takes about a couple of week to begin showing sex after introducing a 12/12 cycle. You might consider removing the clones from the veg room if you have the time and space. Then use a small light and timer to control the light cycle. CFL's would work fine.
 
alright so they still look stretchy? Looking at pics when would you advise to transplant to bigger pots? They have a while until i can clone so ill just wait on that topic but isnt this the time to top them so that they have to colas?if so how do i? Can i get a pound per plant outdoors realisticly because im shooting for a hundredor so pounds if not what would you advise so that i can reach my goal?????Clone ALOT
 

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They are damping off from a combo of not enough light or not close enough, not enough heat & too much water.
 

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alright so they still look stretchy? Looking at pics when would you advise to transplant to bigger pots? They have a while until i can clone so ill just wait on that topic but isnt this the time to top them so that they have to colas?if so how do i? Can i get a pound per plant outdoors realisticly because im shooting for a hundredor so pounds if not what would you advise so that i can reach my goal?????Clone ALOT
You probable will need to transplant after about 3 more inches of growth. If the plants start to show any sign of stress I would transplant into a high quality soil right away. A good soil will have plenty of nutrients for the first few weeks of growth and a proper pH of around 6.5. Very critical. At this point it is very easy to over due the nutes. Go very sparingly. Little is much.

Depending on what you plan to do with these plants can help determine if you want to top, FIM, or LST the plants. You might consider topping the plants if you want more clones per plant b/c topping will give you a bushier plant with more clonable stems.

It's way too early to top though. Wait until after you transplant. The plants need to be at least 8 to 12 inches in hieght and starting to bush out before doing any type of cutting on them. When you get to this point you can do an internet search and get step by step instruction on how to top, FIM, or LST.

A pound per plant is possible, but there is many varibles that determine the yield of a plant. Strain of plant, over all health, nutrition, and sunlight just to name a few. Don't get to caught up in the yield just yet.
 
Alright so ill transplant after 3 inches or so of growth. Also i will probably top since i want alot of clones. What is lst and fim though ive heard of them but what is it? So take it easy on the nutes? should i go by the feeding schedule or go less?so my lights are not close enough and its possible that i am overwatering?
 

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Alright so ill transplant after 3 inches or so of growth. Also i will probably top since i want alot of clones. What is lst and fim though ive heard of them but what is it? So take it easy on the nutes? should i go by the feeding schedule or go less?so my lights are not close enough and its possible that i am overwatering?
You could be overwatering. Just fill the weight of the pot. If it is light then it needs water. Yes, very little nutes. As the plants start to grow faster, you can step the nutes up one increment at a time until you reach full strength. You need to get some 10 inch pots and some good soil to prepare for the transplant. Remember to fill the pots to the very top with soil during the trans. Help maximize root space. The bigger the pot the better root system you will have. So cucullate your space and get the biggest pot you can accommodate up to 3 gallons. It can take up a lot of floor space. You can always transplant again as the plants grow so don't over due it at first.

LST and FIM is only for indoor grows to help maximize yields.
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Alright well a few smaller girls have died and i think its from lack of water. I will try that trick, so next time i water check how heavy, then when lite water again? I have a problem with heat due to that t5 light it gets 85ish in there should i make a vent from outside just to get some cold air in there?
I have some organic soil about 60 bags of it and i will transplant probably into a gallon or so next so i can save space.
 
well checked on girls today and some have spots on them and some are drooping. I will have pics on later. My temps are around 85 and i think my lights may be to close and overfert since i went by the feeding schedule which said to use 2 tsp and i only used one but it was the first time so....any advice before i get pics. i moved lights up a little
 

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It's kinda hard to tell without pics. Seedlings are very tender. If the lights are too close you could burn the leaves very easily on such small plants. Same with the nutes. Little or no nutes is fine for now. The soil should supply enough nutrients without burning the plants.

I also suggest that you buy a pH tester to measure the pH of the water used for watering. It needs to be in a range around 6.5. I have found that rain water works great and usually does not require adjusting, but you should still check it to be certain.

A common problem with with some soil is the pH balance. If the pH extends beyond 7.0 or below 6.0 the roots lose their ability to extract nutrients for the soil no matter how much you add. The more nutes you add the worst the problem becomes. Watering with straight adjusted water helps neutralize the problem, but when the pots become dry the problem resurfaces.

I had this problem once before and had to transplant into better soil. Plants where stunned due to nute lock from pH imbalance.

Be sure to check the pH of the soil you intend to transplant into. Ph is a variable that must be in-check. If you haven't tested it you should to avoid this problem.

I'm not diagnosing your plants only giving a word of advise. Post some more pics.
 
is it possible if they got nute burn to water with normal water and they will live?!?!?
will update wwith pics and such later dealin with some baby mama drama,lol
 

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is it possible if they got nute burn to water with normal water and they will live?!?!?
will update wwith pics and such later dealin with some baby mama drama,lol
You could flush the pots with lots of water if the plants are showing signs of nute burn. Just make sure the pots have adequate drainage holes so the root don't become saturated. Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
well my girls look like there dead i was gone for 3 days and did not water them. they have leafs that are yellow and are and curling up and some are folding down pics soon help please if i continue to water them will they live.
 

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i need some current pics to see whats up . but from what i saw a couple where all strechy and should be repotted in good ual pot mix . bury deep almost to first set of leaves. 1/4 strenght ferts or none at all if you have good soil .
 
Alright updated pics today. The girls are doing much better I got a ph meter and have been adjusting it correctly. THey do not look stretchy to me but comment will be appreciated here later towards that. Lastnight I was reading about topping for 4 main colas any suggestions towards that??? I have started to use nutes Im not sure what strength but very littleuntil I can work up to more.
 
Long time since update so here we go they are looking good ill post pics later, Just ordered 1000 watt light that will be here soon today and just ordered today a Valueline 6 Inch 435 CFM Centrifugal Inline Fan. Anyone know how quite they are???? I plan on venting it through sewer pipe hat is in growroom to eliminate smell and hopefully cool romm temps this summer when 1000 watt light is running will that work without having a cooltube?? I have found my grow area outdoors it does not have a water source which I was hoping for but I plan to bury a 55gallon drum and fill with water. Will that be ok or will that water become stagnant and not be any good??? Pics 2nite of new growroom and setup
 

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Long time since update so here we go they are looking good ill post pics later, Just ordered 1000 watt light that will be here soon today and just ordered today a Valueline 6 Inch 435 CFM Centrifugal Inline Fan. Anyone know how quite they are???? I plan on venting it through sewer pipe hat is in growroom to eliminate smell and hopefully cool romm temps this summer when 1000 watt light is running will that work without having a cooltube?? I have found my grow area outdoors it does not have a water source which I was hoping for but I plan to bury a 55gallon drum and fill with water. Will that be ok or will that water become stagnant and not be any good??? Pics 2nite of new growroom and setup

see ya in a month you aren't posting any pictures lol but ill sub anyway to find out
 
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