...it's about time (purple urkle/urkel)

owl

Active Member
i was gifted some seeds(purple urkle/urkel) from "anigav".

5 seeds germinated

came out of soil within three days

i will post up pictures of all later, but for now...

i post:







this is my first grow - ever

i am wanting to take pictures and document this stressed(?) "seedling"

i feel it is stressed because of the yellowing. yellowing of course can be due to the "leafs" dying off for they are just "cotyledons", but i feel it is too early for them to be "done".

this particular seedling was right next to a fan on the lowest setting. the fan was set to turn as opposed to it being a fixed position it turned from left and right.

but i think (THINK) that it was still too strong enough for the seedling to handle. make note - seedling was one inch away from fan. make note - i thought that it would be fine because the fan would turn as opposed to it just fixed on the seedling.

the coco coir has seemed to dry-out quite a bit. added some water.

let's see how he/she recooperates...

first grow ever:joint:

here's to the next year

main goal is to produce seeds to share among the community

BONUS IF SOMEONE NOTES IRONY IN TITLE AND THREAD.
 

Boneman

Well-Known Member
So your vagina gave you some seeds? LOL....Hey coco dries out quick. The last time i grew in coco, I watered it almost everyday. Make sure you dont let it dry out too long. Its hard to "over do it" with coco.

:joint: ~Boneman
 

owl

Active Member
thanks for the heads up!

haha i did not realize it was vagina spelt backwards until i got the seeds. cracked me up.

i remember reading that it is hard to "over water/saturate" coco. someone correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe it is due to the coco's ability to "wick" out excess moisture.
 

owl

Active Member
i have three out of 7 seedlings "wilted" over. it may be due to the fact that i have underwatered the plant, placed it too far from the light, and/or not feeding/spraying nutes.

i'm excited and bummed - my first issue and first lesson.

i will take more "up to date" pictures later, but for now, these were taken yesterday...



in the second picture, you can see the "bent" seedling which was the one that was, from what i thought, too close to the fan. that particular seedling is wilted over now - again, i will show pictures.

also, the plants are now closer to the light(s) as well, but i suppose the pictures will have to show.

if these seedlings die, i may just grow out some bag seed and go from there so i can save the rest of the purple urkle/urkel seeds for when i don't kill them during the seedling stage.
 

owl

Active Member
Johnny5 said:
If you think they are drying out to fast than I suggest you use a spray bottle and mist them.....maybe twice a day? But also be careful when doing that as you don't want to burn them from the light being to close when you mist them. I would for sure spray them down when the lights go off.
starting yesterday i have been spraying them with a light dose (2 tablespoons of green thrive alive per gallon of tap water).

i have the lights on 24/7.

here are some more photos...it's sad. i am thinking perhaps light doses of nutes? the medium being used is straight coco coir.



not a pretty sight
 

owl

Active Member
i'm starting to think that i may have over-watered my plants and started them too far from the light, but i am not one to be able to confidently diagnose something like that.

i applied some coco coir around the seedlings to support them. i also pH tested the run off of the seedlings and they all register in ~6-7 pH (using test strips).

i am going to let the coco coir dry out a bit and then apply water. i will let the top half get dry before i re-water.

here are some pictures...



let's see where this takes me...
 

owl

Active Member
there is one seedling that is bouncing back to life holding its own. i will post up pictures of the two seedlings that are surviving my ignorance and the one that is recovering from it.



these are one week old seedlings btw
 

owl

Active Member
my plants are seeing the lockout symptoms as well - it seems there are burns showing on the newer set of serrated leaves.

do you suggest i start feeding light doses of veg nutes? i always thought that the idea is to start feeding in a few weeks or so while my seedlings are just 9 days long, but it would make sense to start feeding them now. especially, after reading this -

Rural_GrowOp said:
WELL BALANCED

Controlling the decomposition process, adding the correct nutrient buffer to adjust the ratio, feeding the plants the correct ratio of nutrients to offset the coco ‘release’ will produce the perfect growing conditions. When the medium is not taken into account, the results can be disastrous. Even when fed correctly, and the correct ‘buffer’ of nutrient ratio sets up, just ONE watering with plain water will wreak the buffer sending the plant and medium into shock, rapidly escalating the potassium level. Consequently, plants that do not have enough of some ions such as calcium (there are several) from under feeding or washing out, will show deficiency in these and other elements while the potassium builds up in the plant tissue ultimately to express as margin burning on the leaf surface, mostly at the tip. The first thing the inexperienced grower assumes is that they are feeding too high and have salt issues so they back up the feed concentration and leach the medium. This, of course, magnifies the problem and it gets worse. The key to proper coco growing is to use the right feed to balance the products the coco gives off, not just the availability of minerals, but their ratios too, see figure B. It is equally important to water correctly.
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Stone said:
How they doing bro? you can get a ph pen on e-bay for about 25.00....if your using the test strips, get it closer to 6.0, I've never used it but I think you can use lemon juice to bring the ph down(just temporary, until you get some ph down, I use the granules)...
the coco your using probably does need some kind of buffer... I used to use 'Empire Organics" and I had to add "coco peat" to it...you can tell if they need water just by picking them up, coco is real light when it's dry... some people dont feed this early but I always start from when they sprout, especially with coco, but I would let it dry out first........
a t-8 is perfect, just get 'em real close to it...I use the wrist method...if it's too hot for your wrist...it's too hot for the babies....
Hope this helps and you can pm me if you have anymore problems...
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owl said:
stone, man, they are not doing so well. and when i mean "they", i mean the seedlings that seemed to survive the "damp off".

you start feeding when they sprout? perhaps i am thinking along the lines of using a soil medium because i thought the rule of thumb was to give them nutes after a few weeks went by from the time they sprouted.

if you both are suggesting i start feeding after the medium is dry then i will try to figure some light doses. i am thinking 1/4 strength than what the recommended usage states.
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:weed:dude get some good light and put them close to the plant light 2 inch away cuz u have ur light to far dats y they are just streaching and falling dont water so much once a day in the morning and dats enought tell the next day just a lil water not to much
 
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