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    This is my first attempt at a grow journal. I would appreciate any questions and constructive criticisms you may have. I've been growing for personal consumption for a year or so and have a lot to learn.

    I plan to post weekly grow updates, but will stop by most days to respond to posts. Lets get to it!


    Cabinet Setup:
    I will try to keep this thread devoted to the grow. To see details about my setup, please see my cabinet build thread. If you have any general questions about the cabinet, please post there. Thx

    Grow Details:
    seeds: Avalanche from Highgrade Seeds
    Soil: F
    ox Farm Ocean Forest
    Water: RO from local water store. .25/gal
    Pots: 8.5"x8.5" Square
    Nutrients:
    Veg Time: 7 weeks from germination (seeds popped 11/09/09). Will top once or twice as these grow TALL in flower.
    Flower Time: 9-10 weeks from 12/12 flip.

    Just moved seedlings from their small tray into their final pots.
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    Default Begin Veg ~ 11/09/09-11/15/09

    Some shots of early veg and just before transplant to bigger pots and new cabinet.

    I did the simple "wet paper towel" method with 10 Avalanche seeds (amongst others), and all popped in a few days. This will leave me with a few extra in my veg tent in case I get an unusual # of males or lose some another way.

    Once the taproot was out, I popped them in some Rapid Rooter plugs. I find that they work great, especially if you tear them across the hole a bit before popping the seed in.
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    Default Transplant into final pots and cabinet

    I moved 7 from the small 4" pots to the 8.5" last night. Was going to do 8, but I ran out of soil and in the end figured I wouldn't want to do 8 females anyways, so I'll move the remainder to smaller 1 gal pots and let them sit under the T5s in my veg tent as back-ups. It also left me room to store my water can and dead-leaf bin.

    So far I haven't used any nutrients or tested PH. It's been straight RO water from the local water store. I have ordered a cheap PH meter though in preparation for flowering, so I'll start to check/report that as I go.

    Plants are all between 5-7" tonight and are about 24" below the 400w MH & side-CFLs.
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    lookin good

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    looks great man, sog or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttslambrown View Post
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    Thanks, glad to have you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drella View Post
    looks great man, sog or what?
    Thx for stopping by. I was thinking of doing scrog. Need to revisit some bookmarked threads to figure out what to make the screen out of. It should attach pretty easily to the watering shelf and/or the cabinet using magnets.

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    I've been reading up on ScrOG and think I've encountered a problem with using it in my current grow. It seems that for the best results, you want to setup the screen during veg so that as you top the plants, they grow into the screen, filling up a majority of the space before you switch to 12/12. The issue I'm going to have with this is that I'm not using clones or feminized seeds. So I would surely end up with a couple males mixed into my screen.

    I tried to think of some ways to work around this, but couldn't find a viable solution:

    - Wait/hope for preflowers to confirm sex prior to flowering. But even with this, I'll have males wound through the screen unless I hack the shit out of them after (or if) they show.
    - Wait to install the screen until flowering begins. I think though that this would present problems because I wouldn't want to be handling the bud sites that much during flowering.

    I don't want to take time to cut clones, veg and flower them to determine the sex of the plants for this grow. Am I missing any options here or is my best bet to top them 2-3 times and then just flower as-is?

    Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenseBuds View Post
    So I would surely end up with a couple males mixed into my screen.

    I tried to think of some ways to work around this, but couldn't find a viable solution:

    - Wait/hope for preflowers to confirm sex prior to flowering. But even with this, I'll have males wound through the screen unless I hack the shit out of them after (or if) they show.
    - Wait to install the screen until flowering begins. I think though that this would present problems because I wouldn't want to be handling the bud sites that much during flowering.

    I don't want to take time to cut clones, veg and flower them to determine the sex of the plants for this grow. Am I missing any options here or is my best bet to top them 2-3 times and then just flower as-is?

    Thx
    I would say either take a small cutting and lable it, start lighting at 12/12 in about three weeks you will have sex. Then top your females and screen them. You can lay the screen over them and bend them down with it if they are tall. Or, put them all under there and at about two weeks into flower you see what ya got. Cut out the males, remove them, cut all the lower growth that didnt make it to the screen and use the cuttings for clones.

    What do you think?
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    Hey cruzer, thx for stopping by. I'll be traveling over the holidays, so the cutting/flower idea won't be very feasible at this time.

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    Or, put them all under there and at about two weeks into flower you see what ya got. Cut out the males, remove them, cut all the lower growth that didnt make it to the screen and use the cuttings for clones.

    What do you think?
    My hesitation with this approach was just how intertwined the males would be with the screen and females. Since I've never done a screen, I wasn't sure if it would be possible to get them out once I know they're male. I guess if I cut the main stalk of the males below the screen and miss any non-obvious pieces, I'll know soon enough as they start to die.

    Sounds like it'll work, thx!

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