I broke my res today. Not too happy about it. I was trying to drill a hole for tha thing that I explained earlier but apparently my res was not about to have it. So I'm going tomorrow to get another rubber washer and we'll see what happens. I guess I'm going to have to water by hand tomorrow. Maybe I'll get a new res that works better for me. I dunno... Input appreciated

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Real nice setup dude

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hey church man,i like the set up bro,very stealthy and very clean and crisp,i was looking at your leaves and i think you have an indica dominant offspring which is good for your situation,but i would still put her to flower at 13 inches or so,just to be on the safe side,yeah it would affect your yield but i know you werent shooting for a pound in that thing,you can always FIM that girl to make her extra bushy,since you have adequate cooling for the lights burning wouldnt really be a problem,but i suggest you start now,that way she can recover quickly and switch the light schedule back to 18/6 so she could fill out more....dont be afraid my man she still has room to fill before she flowers,and everytime you FIM her it stunts the growth a lil bit while she fills in

thanks for the reply man, im' kinda stressin today. *resesvoir issues*

i think you're right about the indica dom. the little one hasn't done much growing as of late cause i've been fucking with the can too much. but i've gotta get the environment set before she takes off ya know?

i'm going to find some more info on fimming but i've heard good things. i'd much rather be safe then sorry and grow a short one this time around then have to somehow extend the top of my can to compensate for vertical growth.

the plant has been in flowering for a couple days. you think its ok to go back to veg? do i change the light schedule all at once or gradually?

also, i think i'm pretty set on the lucas formula. it is so intuitive and simple and i love it. i am very much so a numbers person and the lucas formula adds up nicely in my mind.

If i convert back to veg i could probably wait until growth is around 12" to start flowering. this is definately an option. i'm also considering just starting some pure indica seeds in there (imagine some widow or rhino). it seems like it'd be more peace of mind for me to know that my plant will only stretch a bit during flowering.

oh yeah.... the parents (the lil indica and the sativa tree) were started on flower around two and half weeks. the sativa pictured at around eight feet in the pic was less than 12 inches when put into flower. i'm apprehensive about vegging too much and then getting explosive growth in flowering because of the sativa genetics.

thanks a lot nikk for the reply and the train of thought that it provoked. do you think i'd be better off fimming or trying uncle ben's four top technique? i sort of like the idea of multiple tops, but this is my first grow so i like the idea of anything

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FIMming with M Blaze... A complete how to FIM guide.
That is a nice fimming how to guide

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i think fimming would be your best bet,because i topped my lil girl and i have the feeling she is going to stretch those cola's when she flowers,you see if you fim,all it does it stress the plant out enough to stop vertical growth but it promotes side branching,i dont really know the schematics as to why it works but it does,and if youre willing to try you know you CAN fim and top,you'll have to veg longer but you will end up with a wide canopy and at least 2 tops,but thats scary business....i'd just fim her a few times till she gets nice and busy...but short

tom is the man by the way,i personally follow ALL of his work,even if i cant afford the stuff he uses i still use his grows as a catalyst for what i would like to achieve

oh and i just checked,they recommend a 24 hour light schedule if you plan on fimming,i guess it helps the plant recover quicker and bush out

tom,

thanks for the compliment and the link. that really is a good guide and i'm going to be using it in the future.
i am wondering what you would do concerning my, uh, concerns... I'm worried about height (there's more written above in post 14 and 17) and am debating whether to use a technique like fimming or just resume what i am doing and just flower already.

wwtd?



nikk,

thanks a lot for getting back to me and looking up stuff on fimming. i did some searches too and it looks cool. i'm about to go see what your operation looks like....


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i just finished trying to fix my res and it doesn't seem to be leaking! whoo! but the integrity of my resevoir has still been compromised and who knows how long this patch will hold. so, a resevoir goes onto my shopping list.

i mounted the fill level indicator <<(fancy name for some simple shit) and i'm going to mark it so i have a fill line. it works well and i can pour a bit of water straight into my drip pH test kit. before i had to lift the damn can off everytime i wanted to look inside the res. so far so good.

so now that my resevoir issue is temporarilily resolved, its time to fill it with water and nutes! i'm going to be following the lucas method of maintaining a healthy resevoir and nutrition levels. i'm using GH micro and bloom to flower with. Because I am using fluorescent light bulbs i'll be adding 5mL Micro and 10 mL Bloom per gallon of water in my res instead of the formula for HID lighting (0-8-16).

i went to the pharmacy at walmart and asked them for a little syringe without the needle in it. it was free and measure easily in tsp's (up to 1) and mL's (up to 5).

so..... i put seven gallons of water from the bath into my res and made a mark to indicate a full water level on the inside of the res. i also made two marks on the external level indicator (hahaha fancy names), one at seven gallons and the other at six gallons. this way i'll have an estimate of how much add on water i need to bring my res back to the "full" amount.

next, i found out that my tap water pH was around 8(horrible, i know) and had a ppm of 236 @ .5 conversion or EC of 0.472. I pulled out the micro and syringed (word?) out 35mL. stir the water. next came the bloom with 70 mL for my seven gallons. stir the water more. chill on it.... smoke a steamroller... and test that shit again. this time the results put a smile on my face. the water had a pH of 5.9-6 and ppm of 820 or EC of 1.64.

as far as i know (and my knowledge only comes from reading and reading and reading), these numbers seem pretty good. I turned the bubbler on and will check again for change tomorrow. The lucas method seems pretty sweet and i shouldn't have to toy with pH and ppm that much at all, and if i do i'll buy water for $.29 at meijer...

i still don't know where i'm going to put this thing. i have two closets in my room. one is being used for clothes and the other has the apt air conditioner and water heater. i gets kinda cold in there at night but i think this is where the can is gonna end up. i'll take temp readings at night to see lows.

how cold is too cold for a plant? haha i know thats probably a question not often asked but these lights provide basically no heat. today my room was around 60F. after the can was lights on for seven hours it was low of 60 and high of 62 in there. really incredible system i've got here... so back to my original question! how cold is too cold? should i invest in a small heater for when i put this thing in the cold closet?

i am out of stuff to say and have some work to do for tomorrow so i'm out. wish you all well

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one question,

once you fim, how long (i'm talking in length of new growth) before i can fim again? or i guess i could ask how many fims could i possible get with around ten or fifteen inches to work with?

sorry if it's oddly worded. i think funny

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