Hwy420's White Widow Grow - Page 3

Hulk Nugs · #21 11-01-2009, 08:51 PM

Roots are looking good man no worries on them, not that i can see.

Theres somthing going on in there wish i new about all the different types of plant problems out there i could help you out more. You know if i could just look at the plant and know excatlywhat the problem is that would be sick one day still learning.

Wicked picture man, you can just take rips and look at that for hours finding new things all the time thanks for sharing.

Looks like you have that room dialed in really nice with those temps and humidity good job on that saves you from

, thats always a plus.

corngrower · #22 11-02-2009, 09:33 AM

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Cool thanks for the input, The soil is mainly fx farm and a few pots have some added black cow, would that cause it to be overfertilized? I've watered them about 5 times so far, every 3-4 days, and a couple of times had some extra bloom nutes already mixed that I added. I also don't think I water them enough, it's such a bitch so I let the soil get really dry first. I'm gonna go water them now with pure water and flush a little bit. I have been trying my best to keep them short & bushy as much as possible by fimming because I don't want them to get too big to not be able to flower all of them under the single 600W. I thought I was going to start flowering them a long time before this. They always seem to look lots better after I water. I'll update with another picture in just a little bit after lights flip on. I want to post some pictures of the 'stealthiness' of this room.

I guess I should have asked if you took the pics after the lights had been on or right when they came on, as that would make them look a little droppy. As I said, I have killed many plants due to impatience and lack of knowledge. Keep up the good work and I will follow to the harvest.

hwy420 · #23 11-02-2009, 10:42 AM

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I guess I should have asked if you took the pics after the lights had been on or right when they came on, as that would make them look a little droppy. As I said, I have killed many plants due to impatience and lack of knowledge. Keep up the good work and I will follow to the harvest.

Well yeah, I took the photos right before lights went off. It seems they always are a little bit more droopy just before & after & during the night cycle too, but they were extra droopy, you're right, I passed out last night and didn't get any pictures taken; i'll update tonight; thanks for your expertise. I've got this huge mother plant that is getting too big for vegetative; i really don't think i'm game for keeping her alive until spring to put her outside. She's almost 4 months old and I don't have a veg chamber big enough for her, and definately don't have the room to flower her if she's supposed to get twice the size. If I decide to chop her, should I just put her in the garbage?

Thanks for joinin the thread, I really need all the help I can get.

hunt4pot1 · #24 11-02-2009, 12:29 PM

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Well yeah, I took the photos right before lights went off. It seems they always are a little bit more droopy just before & after & during the night cycle too, but they were extra droopy, you're right, I passed out last night and didn't get any pictures taken; i'll update tonight; thanks for your expertise. I've got this huge mother plant that is getting too big for vegetative; i really don't think i'm game for keeping her alive until spring to put her outside. She's almost 4 months old and I don't have a veg chamber big enough for her, and definately don't have the room to flower her if she's supposed to get twice the size. If I decide to chop her, should I just put her in the garbage?

Thanks for joinin the thread, I really need all the help I can get.

I would cut her back as far as I could. Then you can try tying her back to get her as short as you can and the bloom her.. I would try anything before trashing her but if she is just to big than she is just to big!

Cheese101 · #25 11-02-2009, 12:35 PM

Real Nice Mate Real Nice

hwy420 · #26 11-03-2009, 12:17 AM

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Real Nice Mate Real Nice

Hey man; thanks I'm a long way off from calling it complete.

11/02/2009 Update

I watered the soil clones last night with pure water. They looked really bad last night before I watered them in picture 1. When the light came back on this evening, they were already looking better in picture 15. Some of the leaves are curling still very badly in picture 16. I'll flush again tomorrow. You can see my stealth entrance in the pictures 2-5. I guess some of my clones won't make it; some have really great root systems, and some don't show any at all. I was taking a picture of some of the clones and my camera cable got wrapped around a clone and ripped it the fuck out and it barely had a needle size dick root, it was pathetic, lol but at least she's still trying to root 3 1/2 weeks later. lol fu;ck

lol what about the pathetic survivor in picture 9 haha. I plan on taking out 4 soil clones to start flowering tomorrow under a spare 400W that I have. I'm supposed to give them 18 hours of dark before I switch to 12/12?

Lights: 18/6
Humidity: 35-55%
Air Temps: 63 - 74 F
Res Temp: 71.6 F
Res PPM/TDS: 239-250 PPM's
Res PH: 6.0
Last Res Change: 10/29/09
Next Res Change: 11/05/09

Hulk Nugs · #27 11-03-2009, 07:10 AM

Do you have a electronic meter for ph? or is that just for ppm? I was told that the ph liquid gage your using are not that good for plants, gives us a idea but not really a accurate reading.

I had few plants my first grow, out grow the room since i didn’t really know what i was doing just started tying all the top tall colas down and dam did those things plump up biggest nugs in my grow. Only thing i did wrong was let them hit the light every once in a while so they got really bad light burn so keep those tie downs tight and check on it every day. START NOW IF YOU FEEL ITS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

The dark period is for helping the plants feel like its starting to turn fall/winter, so it makes them go into a flower mode from what i remember. I have read that some people don’t even do this, some go with 18, 24,even 32.

Not sure you might have told us, but are the clones in the aero clones you cut ???

Edit Door

Always love a stealth door way, but your computer is not hooked up yet right ? once you doo all those cords might be in your way and if you go in and out with water hmmm, if thats your office you could just build a book shelf door dam those are sweet. Or even a mirror door.

Some links if you want

HiddenPassageway

HiddenDoors

InstallSecretDoor

hwy420 · #28 11-03-2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hulk Nugs

I had few plants my first grow, out grow the room since i didn’t really know what i was doing just started tying all the top tall colas down and dam did those things plump up biggest nugs in my grow. Only thing i did wrong was let them hit the light every once in a while so they got really bad light burn so keep those tie downs tight and check on it every day. START NOW IF YOU FEEL ITS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

The dark period is for helping the plants feel like its starting to turn fall/winter, so it makes them go into a flower mode from what i remember. I have read that some people don’t even do this, some go with 18, 24,even 32.

Not sure you might have told us, but are the clones in the aero clones you cut ???

Cool, well I decided to go ahead and take your advice and take action tonight; I have a filing cabinet that i'm going to use as a flowering chamber for 4 of the soil clones, and also houses a new mother. I've decided that i'm going to flower my current monster mother with 3 stout daughters of hers under the 600W.

Yes, my clones in the Aero were clones that I cut from my mother on 10/12/09 (24 days old since cutlings).

Hulk Nugs · #29 11-04-2009, 07:07 AM

Looking good in there man and now another little flowering chamber just gets better

Not sure how long you have been growing but if that was your first time taking clones then you did a good job man, they all might have not made it but allot did and they have great white roots on them! After a few times of cloneing, the days you have to wait for roots will get shorter.

corngrower · #30 11-04-2009, 10:49 PM

In my experience, damaged leaves remain damaged, no matter what you do. If they are curling or knuckled, they might not right themselves. Looking at the two set ups, the plants in dirt look healthier than the hydro. I used rockwool for years, and my roots looked great but the plants looked stunted, whispy, and spindly. Switched to dirt, and they were scary they looked so good. However, my biggest harvest was over 2 lbs of ww in a 4' x 4' space done in rockwool. Next batch in was destroyed after a visit from an univited guest with a shield, 25 ww clones. My take on it is that it's easier to over fert hydro than dirt, and it might not kill them as quickly as in dirt. I went down one day and 50 plants in pots were dead, just like that. The tell-tale sign of recover will be the new growth and the top 2 inches or 3 nodes. If they are pointing up, greasy, shiney, and a little velvety, then you are in good shape. If they feel or look rubbery, keep flushing. When the top 4 inches looks great and the bottom of the plant is yellowing, you know it's time to start adding nutes. Rule of thumb: If the top looks bad but lower parts look good, it's over fert. If the top looks good but bottom is yellow or faded, it's not enough N. I'm no expert, just someone who learned from lots of failed grows. You can clone, which is the hardest part and most important part of a sog. Great work.

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