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Old 10-11-2009, 01:55 PM
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Default ALL fluorescent Hydro SoG Grow Journal [uncomplicated]
My second grow is winding down now and I am going to rebuild/expand my growing capacities to incorporate the ebb and flo SoG method in the coming months.

I have two identical areas where I'll be growing. You could call this a semi-compact grow, because each area is less than 10 square feet. Below I have an outline of one of the future areas




This is the flowering room (to be), the veg area will be almost identical. I have not yet decided on a light fixture, but as I am on a limitied budget I will probably be aiming for two of the Sunleaves dual-tube T5s or TT55s for each level. Next diagram is for the same area (flowering), different perspective.




As you can see it is very limited room to work with, but I know it can be done. Sorry for leaving out the trays on this one, just imagine them there exactly like the previous picture.

Area is 49" wide, 25" deep, and 68" tall.

I am almost certain on the T5 or TT55 fixtures, but the option of CFLs still hang in my mind. CFLs are what I have used up until now with good results. It will be determined by whether I can accomplish a venting system to help with heat and smell. Until now I've been operating with just one fan, no filters or ionizers or anything. Its been working alright, but if I don't roll up the plastic light curtain everyday to let some heat escape from around the door, heat-induced wilting occurs. This is my only big problem to solve before the SoG is built.

I'm also still contemplating whether I really want to try for two levels (because space is so tight), or just give in and have one level of flowering clones.

More to come before Halloween when supplies/equipment are acquired. Thanks for watching.
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:13 PM
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Nice set up. I want to see this in action. Good luck.
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Please feel free to ask questions or make comments - only if it is constructive though To encourage this, I'm also going to post briefly on my last harvest, because I would like to know how the community thinks I'm doing on drying and curing. This of course will influence how I dry/cure when running the SoG as well.

My dry box is just a $4 tub with a PC fan running off of a rotation of 9.6V rechargeable drill batteries. I placed a flap over the fan hole on the inside because direct airflow on the buds was making them too dry on the outside, leaving the inside still moist. I also setup screens below using window screen material that was lying around, this helped with all of the small or loose harvest that couldn't be hung. These have been drying like this for 10 days now, will probably move them all to jars for curing in the next few days.

I've just moved those nugs to curing in the jar today (yes, I get a little impatient sometimes), you can still see the smaller bud leaves I was too lazy to clip today, will probably get them off by tomorrow. Of course I never stack my buds much taller than this when curing to ensure even curing and avoid compression.

I'll leave this jar and future curing jar batches in total darkness, burping them once a day for five minutes. I predict the curing will take 2 weeks this time (based on last harvest's experience) Of course you can leave them in these jars forever, as long as you keep them away from direct sunlight.
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Nice set up. I want to see this in action. Good luck.
Thanks anhedonia, I can't wait either. I'm hoping that by the end of the first week in November it will be completely running.



ALSO: How big are everyone's clones when they finish flowering? How big of cuttlings do you normally take from your mother? I have read anywhere from 25" to 40" when fully flowered, and as I'm limited to space I'm hoping I can keep them under 25" (for two levels).

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one more thing, if you say your using fluorescent for financial reasons, you will end up making way more and better quality bud, for some people that means more money they dont have to spend buying it somewhere else. i highly suggest a 400 watt hps for you. good luck regardless tho.
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one more thing, if you say your using fluorescent for financial reasons, you will end up making way more and better quality bud, for some people that means more money they dont have to spend buying it somewhere else. i highly suggest a 400 watt hps for you. good luck regardless tho.
I've decided to build a flood table for the flowering area and have only one level. However I still am going the fluorescent route because, like I said financial reasons but also because I have no way of venting enough air to cool a HPS where the area is currently situated (stealth is a main concern). CFLs (or T5s for that matter) are much easier for me to control heat wise. Of course when in the future I have an entire basement to devote to this passion, HPS lamps will be among the first things I'll buy. But for now, fluorescent will do. Thanks for the input!
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whats up midnight, a few Q's: whats the size of that area?, what nutes?.....i whould go with the HO t5's (those are some nice lights)....meangreen
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whats up midnight, a few Q's: whats the size of that area?, what nutes?.....i whould go with the HO t5's (those are some nice lights)....meangreen
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whats up midnight, a few Q's: whats the size of that area?, what nutes?.....i whould go with the HO t5's (those are some nice lights)....meangreen
Area is 49" wide, 25" deep, and 68" tall.

General Hydroponics nutes which I am already familiar with. I'll be adding a P supplement, specifically Canna PK 13-14 as suggested by the great Al B. in weeks 3-4.

As for lighting, what do you think of this deal? Just for the flowering area, it's the best deal I've seen on a T5 fixture in a while. Remember, this is a SMALL budget op, desperate almost : P

 

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