Originally Posted by darkdestruction420

start your seeds in a jifft organic seedling and cutting mix or something similar, i have never had a seed not sprout out of like 60+ seeds ive started in it. a heating pad is also extremely helpful(i always use one under my clones/seedlings and its amazing how much quicker it makes rooting and germinating happen)..do you have one?

Originally Posted by DubB83

Sure can!

I suggest growing them all to be about a month old and then topping and using the top as a clone. If your going to grow a mother plant you got to get cloning in. When the clones establish roots put them in a tub with warm white CFLs in it on a 12/12 schedule to sex them. You can then use the clones to pick the mothers and kill the males. Keeping your flowering plants in with the mothers and clones is a bad idea. Really 2 CFLs in the day light spectrum left on 20/4 in a small mylar lined box will keep a mother alive just fine. Just add ventilation and you have a simple and stealth box for mothers that can be as short as 2-3 foot tall. Dub used speaker boxes and I use tupperware, same job same purpose. I also use a tupperware with CFLs and a seedling tray for my clones. The tupper ware are easy to stack and make them look like typical storage, I have even stored them out in public when guests stop by. No problems with stealth.

Mostly old wives tales, a clone is a genetic duplicate of the mother plant. Typically what I do is keep a mother plant for three months and clone off of it, then I replace it with a clone of itself and it will do the exact same thing as the mother and give clones of the same quality. Typically the bigger the clone the faster they root and are ready to flower, woody clones take longer to root, cuttings taken from lower on a plant will typically root easier, and I'm sure there are plenty of other tips I'm missing for you.

You may want to take a look at Al B Fuct's cloning thread.

Give it a shot and put in the practice.

~GG420

Originally Posted by shadowgrower1

it will be easier for me to construct a full size room for the mother plant, realistically, as I have altered MY room by adding a false wall.

I am not sure when to clone my babies and not harm them...

Status Update:
Biggest plant has 16 leaves.

My two rhinos are starting their 2nd set,

and the kinda deformed one is, well, still kinda deformed but making it. Its got like, 10 leaves or something.

PICS TOMORROW!

Side note: I agree, I do think my plants are stretching too much, and I have moved them closer to the light. I had them under a 400 watt HPS for a while, and that was TOO hot for them in their baby stage :'( CFLs from now on.

Originally Posted by shadowgrower1

I was going to get a heating pad, but my co-worker advised me against it saying it wasn't helpful. I would tend to believe that it would be though, as he has only grown ALL NATURAL and doesn't believe information found on the internet can be true, lol. Im using Black Gold Organic seedling mix. I will be updating pics tomorrow!

Originally Posted by shadowgrower1

it will be easier for me to construct a full size room for the mother plant, realistically, as I have altered MY room by adding a false wall.

Originally Posted by shadowgrower1

I am not sure when to clone my babies and not harm them...

Originally Posted by shadowgrower1

Status Update:
Biggest plant has 16 leaves.

My two rhinos are starting their 2nd set,

and the kinda deformed one is, well, still kinda deformed but making it. Its got like, 10 leaves or something.

PICS TOMORROW!

Side note: I agree, I do think my plants are stretching too much, and I have moved them closer to the light. I had them under a 400 watt HPS for a while, and that was TOO hot for them in their baby stage :'( CFLs from now on.

Originally Posted by DubB83

A mother plant doesn't need much space, a shelf unit with CFLs or a tub or box with CFLs will be plenty, shouldn't need a whole room if you keep mothers for only three months and replace with clones. How many plants do you plan to flower in a SoG? Plan to take more than required clones, take the clones from a plant that has been forced to branch more through early topping/FIM'ing or LST'ing. More branches = more clones.



Any time the plant has shoots that are 3 nodes large or larger, the bigger the better. Did you check Al B's thread?



You could use CFLs and the HPS if you wanted to as long as the plant has a few layers of true leaves. Start the HID light high and use your hand to judge the temp, if your hand is too hot your light is too close or in need of a cooling solution.

~GG420