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Old 09-08-2009, 06:09 PM
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Talking First Grow Ever! Flying Dutchmen G Force Feminized
Hi fellow stone-a-holics

I have finaly got set up for my first grow
Iv decided to start a grow journal and as im new to growing I am happy for you all to post on my journal with advice or just anything anyone wishes to comment on

I did start a thread in the newbie sections a few weeks ago but decided to create a new post in the journal section instead.

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My First Grow

Ok so its day one for me today. Iv got my set up almost fitted and my seeds are germinating in my airing cupboard. Keep em nice and warm at about 27c - 30c wrapped in a moist small hand towel between 2 small plates.

I wanted to grow some burmese Kush but the Attitude seed bank I ordered from were out of stock so I decided to go for 10x Flying Dutchmen G Force Feminized.

All 10 are under the plate but also got some free seeds.

1x Moby Dick
1x power kush
1x blue widow

I have decided to also germinate these 3 free seeds but thought id experiment a little and have put them in a small cup with some moist bog roll in the bottom and a cling film cover with a couple of holes in it, also in my airing cupboard just to see if this wirks better for germination.

All in all I have 8x 11 liter pots to grow in so I will look to take the 8 best looking plants after Propagation and grow them to full adults.

I will be placing the seeds into a root riot tray once they have hatched and will be growing in hydroton clay pebbles with a hydroponic drip/flood system on a timer.

At the moment im not to sure what to do with the 5 left over babies once iv transplanted my 8 best looking girls into there pots. If all seeds germinate that is.

once I have them into there root riots and in the medium propagation tray I will hit them with the 250w MH light I have on an 18 hour on and 4 hours off cycle. I dont currently have a lower light source to use in my grow tent but I think this will be ok.

Once they are out from under the dome and in there pots I will then change to a 400w MH for veg and then a 600w HPS for flowering.

This is what I have for my set up:

A complete Hydroponics growing kit to raise and flower eight large sized plants in a Wilma 8 Pot System with Hydroton Clay Pebbles and Canna Aqua Nutrients. This kit has everything you will need to propagate, grow and flower with ease.
DR120 600w Hydro Grow Kit includes:
  • Secret Jardin DR120 Tent.
  • Maxibright 600w IPac Ballast.
  • Euro Reflector.
  • Powerplant 600w HPS Lamp.
  • Powerplant 400w MH Lamp. (not included in the kit)
  • Powerplant 250w MH lamp. (not included in the kit)
  • Powerstar 1 way 1kw Light Contactor.
  • 2 x Grasslin 15 minute Timer.
  • Eazi Roll - light hangers.
  • 5" Prima Klima Carbon Filter - 18 month.
  • 5" Systemair HVK Fan/Cable/Plug.
  • 5" Fast Clamp.
  • 5" Jubilee Clip.
  • 5" Aluminium Duct x 5 metre.
  • 6" Clip on Fan.
  • Wilma 8 Pot System.
  • Root Riots - tray 24.
  • Medium Propagator.
  • Scalpel.
  • PH Test Kit.
  • PH Down 1 litre.
  • 5ml Pipette.
  • 10ml Syringe.
  • Thermometer & Humidity Dial.
  • Softy Scissors.
  • Canna Rhizotonic 250ml.
  • Canna Aqua Vega A+B 1 litre.
  • Canna Aqua Flores A+B 1 litre.
  • Canna PK 13/14 1 litre.
  • 2 x Hydroton Clay Pebbles 50 litre.
All in all this kit cost me a smal fourtune! £700 in total. Inc the £65 delivery!
They do know how to charge. lol.
Got my kit from http://www.greensea-hydroponics.co.uk
After doing some research I decided that for what I got at what I paid was very reasonable.

Although setting it all up has taken me all of today as iv never set anything like this up before and putting the grow tent up on my own was a nightmare!

I live in an apartment and my mum turned up whilst I still had stuff everywhere! was a close call and managed to lock my grow room door before she could snoop around and start asking a load of questions as im trying to treat this grow like a top secret special op! lol. I dont think my mum would be bothered but more worried about her running her mouth off to other people, which could blow my whole operation!

Anyhows watch this space and I will add more to my journal as things progress.
I will also get some pics of my set up on here as soon as I locate my data cable for my camera.

As I said at the beginning of this thread, everyone feel free to have your say on my journal.

I know growing is not easy and I have spent many of late nights reading lots and lots and lots and lots of threads on here. I feel im prepared for the task ahead but also know problems can happen in an instant. As a newbie I know things will probably go wrong in this grow but thanks to Roll It Up I know im not alone and the answers to most if not all of my questions can be found or answered here

I will try and keep up to date with my grow on here as much as possible with lots of pics.

But for now its 1am here and im ready for some
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Default Day 2!
Ok so im on day 2 now and my seeds have been germinating for around 30 hours.

All of them apart from 1 have busted there nut and I can see the tap root just startin to pop out. but a few have really popped out and one of them must of thought it was in the tap root olympics as it was going for gold! lol

I have decided to transfer them into my root riots so the tap root can gain length in this Propagation medium as I didnt want to leave them any longer and risk damaging them.

one of my Flying Dutchmen didnt make it. seed didnt even sweal up but got 12 popped and the first 8 to break through the medium will go into my pots.


One thing thats on my mind is do I need to give them some light now or keep them in the dark until they pop out of the medium?

Iv added some pics.
they just show what iv done so far and my struggle with the grow tent. lol
grow tent is not fully set up yet but this will be done tomorrow.

Them root riots look like chocolate muffins! lol
not good when ya got the munchies
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:28 PM
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Oh yeh and thanks for the good luck BlackRoses. really appreciate it mate
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Default Day 3 in the Big Bud House
Just thought id add a quick update in my current situation in the grow room.

So I have got my nuts buried in the muffins and the smallest watt light iv got is a 250w MH powered by a 250w to 600w maxbirght Ipac ballast which accepts both MH and HPS lamps with a powersatr 1 way 1kw light contractor.

I turned it on today to give my seeds some light.

One problem!

Light is hung about 1 meter above the propagation dome and temps are hitting 33c/91.4f. fan is also on which is a 5" Systemair HVK inline Fan with a carbon filter.

I left the lamp on for about an hour to see what the temps would be like and decided to turn it off as I think that is way to hot for my babies right now.

Iv rig up some low light just to try and keep some light on them until I get this temp problem sorted in the next couple of days.

Im thinking some duct on the end of the reflector connected up to the fan. Just some standard 5" Aluminium Duct, but also from the fan out of the tent im going to put in some insulated duct to try and keep the noise down as the fan seems to be the loudest part of my set up and I dont want to try to attract any attention.

I think I will also try 2 computer fans on the other end of the reflector blowing air towards the duct.

The fan noise is not a massive issue right now but will be in the pipeline to be done in the close future, like a couple of weeks or something.

Temps are my major problem and going to try and fix this within the next 2 days at most.

As I mentioned before iv have set up some low light until I have my rig sorted. not to sure if these temps will be ok though.

Temp currently in the dome is 22c/71.6f and hummidity is 86% which is wet.

If anyone is reading this please take a look at these 2 pics and let me know if this set up will be ok for a couple of days at the above temp and hummidity.

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Also Im thinking if this current temp is to low maybe I could fire up the 250w lamp every couple of hours for 15 mins but im also thinking that this will cause excessive wear on my bulb and decrease its life span and also the lamp will draw alot of power until its warmed up and that takes about 15 mins.

Im thinking once I have the 400w MH in for vegging the temps are going to be higher!

I just hope once I get this extra duct and fans it will sort out this problem
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Default Day 4
Just a quick update on todays events.

Im still with the low light after yesterdays events but should hopefully have this sorted by tomorrow.

Temp at the moment in the dome is sitting at around 20c/68f and my meter is not showing any hummidity.
About half of my babies have broken through which is a good sign that I havent fucked anything up just yet!

Im now thinking that I need to get this heat problem fixed ASAP so my girls can get some good light.

But a least they are doing ok at the moment and Im also thinking that the low light will give the roots a chance to form well before the transplant into the large pots.

One more Pic of my progress
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Default Day 5
Just a quick note.

Have now got 2 120mm computer fans which will be wired into a spare 300w computer power supply. power supply not ideal and will be getting like a 50w one soon to run the 2 fans.

im going to connect the exhust duct to the end of the light reflector with one fan pulling air into the duct and the other fan on the other end of the reflector blowing air towards the duct. hope this works and brings my temps down.

also will get my 6" clip on fan wired up as well to blow on my babies.

Im hoping to transplant tomorrow into the bigger pots. i will be growing in hydroton Clay pebbles.

Most of my babies have now well and truly shown themselves.

hopefully will be set up by tonight for a test run to check temps before transplanting tomorrow so can give me time to tweek the set up again if need be.
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Default day 6
Iv had a busy day today with my set up!

As mentioned before I wired 2 120mm computer fans up to the light reflector.
One fan attached to the exhust duct sucking air in and the other blowing hot air towards the exhust duct and an inline fan also helping suck air out.

Well this seemed to work well as once I turned it all on the grow tent was sucked inwards due to the high volume of air all the fans were pulling out.

But still the temps reached up to 33c/91.4f so this was not good

I rent a top floor apartment and luckily have some loft space. So I set ou this morning and monkied around in the loft and have cut out a 6" hole in the spare bedroom ceiling, run the duct upto the loft and fitted my inline fan up there as well.

This has work out very well as the inline fan was noisy and I have now eliminated that.
carbon filter is also fitted in the tent itself and I have more room in the tent now for grow

the 2 120mm fans are now pulling air in at the bottom of the tent so it is nice and cool. I dint bother with the computer power supply and just used a small converter which works out great! A little re-wiring but will save money on electric which is always good.

Have had my 250w MH light on for about 2 hours now and temps are a steady 28c/82.4f and humiddity is around 45% which I am well happy with! Light at the moment is at the top of the tent so the temp may increase slightly once I lower it to the plants but all in all temps are alot better and I feel more comfortable leaving the light on 24 hours a day.

Temps and humiddity taken at the highest part of the plant.

They are around 2" tall now and showing there first leaves. 3 of them havent made it but the other 10 are looking really good. I will have to lose 2 of them as I have only 8 11 litre pots to grow in.

Havent transplanted into the bigger pots just yet as I am not seeing enough roots just yet but I think this will be done within the next few days.

I will add some more pics a little later on.

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