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Old 09-26-2009, 02:28 PM
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PH: 5.6
PPM: 780
Res TEMP: 67
Air TEMP: 76
LIGHT: 1k MH

OK, my plants have taken off nicely. As reported earlier, I am using the Technaflora kit that came with my Ebb and Grow for vegetative. I refilled my reservoir two days ago and in the middle of adding back fertilizer, ran out of the 'boost' part which supplies nitrogen for vegetative. My PPM was at about 270, so what I did was bring it back up to 750 by including some of my GH flora clone micro and Bloom at 1:1 ratio. I am now running two brands at once, the plants seem to love it.

I pay 20$ a gallon for the GH clone that I get at a local hydroponic shop. I went in a couple of weeks ago to resupply and there were a bunch of strange people there sitting around. As soon as I walked in they started trying to get me to admit that I grow marijuana, and for me to sell it to them. I informed them that I am a legal medical grower and I do not sell what I grow, and if I grow over what I am allowed by law I donate it to my dispensary.

Upon hearing this they all seemed dissapointed. Obvoiusly it was some sort of sting setup. The owners of the place must have gotten busted and let the cops use their store to entrap people. I am legal, and I could still buy stuff there if I chose, but I wont be going back. Once this generic Flora clone is all used up, I start buying the real GH flora stuff.

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GH flora clone that I use, payed 15$ a gallon for years, recently they raised price to 20$, still a bargain

My plants have started growing nicely and are beginning to fill out the pots.

My retarted mutant has succumbed to the magic of hydroponics and is rapidly putting out new healthy growth.
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:45 PM
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Well, it has been two weeks since the clones went into the system. The first week all I did was idle them at low PPM. This last week I have cranked the ferts up.

PPM: 700
Solution temp: 67
PH: 5.6
Air temp: 78

My Skunk #11's are the most robust of the plants, putting out very stout side branches and they are all growing relatively even sized. The AK47s are just about the same size as the skunks but my retarded clone is among that group. My Dynamites are hands down the bushiest and will have a lot of buds on them.

The size of the plants is pretty even throughout the clones. This is attributed to letting them spread roots before turning up the nutrients. The amount of growth above ground is proportional to the size of the root system below ground.

By tomorrow many of the clones will be close to the width of the pots. Not bad considering they were an inch high and 2 inches wide a week ago. They have a very tight distance between the internodes which makes me quite pleased. I want to bend them as little as necessary. It is looking like it will be about ten more days before I can flip them. When they fill the room about 2/3 full, I will turn them over.

Since I refilled my res four days ago, the PH has not moved from 5.7. The PPM has remained just about the same every day too. This is nice, really havent had to do anything at all but check on them once a day or so. When everything is going perfect it can be almost boring, just taking their vitals every day.

I added about five gallons of water tonight and one tablespoon of micro, This knocked the PPM from about 780 down to 700. I will see how they react to that. This brought the PH up to 5.9 so I knocked it back down to 5.6.

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Old 10-04-2009, 05:53 PM
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Update time. It has been six days since my last update. The clones are now growing full blast. In the last six days they have quadrupled in size.

My nutrients are a little unorthodox. I went out and bought a quart of GH flora 'Grow' and am using it with the Grow part from the BC kit. The plants seem to love this combination.

I have begun giving them one tablespoon per day of H2o2 35%. I am doing this to help oxygenate the solution a bit better. The plants really took off when I started doing this. When plants are small you really have to be careful with hydrogen peroxide because they burn very easily. It is best to err on the side of caution.

Here are some stats:

PH: 5.7
PPM: 805
Water temp: 66
Room temp: 73
Humidity: 55%
Days in system: 20

I have suffered no bumps in the road this grow, everything is going very smoothly. With the speed that the plants are growing now, It looks like I might be able to flip them in about 5 or 6 days.

I have my reservoir outside the grow room in an unheated area. This should knock my water temperature down to the 50s - low 60s come late October. That is one nice thing about this ebb and grow, the ability to have the reservoir far from the growroom.

Here are some pictures, as you can see they are growing quite agressively now.
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Old 10-09-2009, 08:06 PM
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Im going to flip them tonight. I just changed out the reservoir to Lucas formula. I took out my MH bulb and switched to HPS. I also added two more 1000 watt HPS. I will go and get some more AA batteries tonight and take some more pictures. Everything is going smooth sailing.

Heat control will be an adventure. Just in time though, starting to cool off considerabally outside.

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Old 10-10-2009, 09:13 AM
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Im going to flip them tonight. I just changed out the reservoir to Lucas formula. I took out my MH bulb and switched to HPS. I also added two more 1000 watt HPS. I will go and get some more AA batteries tonight and take some more pictures. Everything is going smooth sailing.

Heat control will be an adventure. Just in time though, starting to cool off considerabally outside.

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Old 10-12-2009, 09:50 PM
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Days flowering: 3
Room Temp: 80
Solution Temp: 60
Lighting: 3 x 1k
PPM: 1280
PH: 5.7

I am changing out my reservoir every 5-7 days. The ebb and grow has a 55 gallon reservoir that I am running at about 30 gallons. The PPM is rising very slowly, about 15 ppm per day. This tells me that the plants are using roughly the same amount of water as fertilizer. This is what I normally see when using the Lucas Formula.


I am now three days into flowering. The room is very bright with 3 x 1000w HPS.

Will take a few more pictures tomorrow then post them. The wife was smelling them upstairs at about 2 AM, so I will get some more ona blocks for smell. I have one going in the room now but will use as many as it takes to manage the odor.

I have a 465 CFM exaust fan running up in on corner with only one intake hole on the opposite bottom side of the growroom. This seems to keep the room cool enough. The room is holding at about 80 degrees. The air outside the room (where I'm drawing it from) is about 60 degrees. I have an oscillating fan with the base removed hanging upside down from the ceiling from a bungee cord. It twists and turns somewhat randomly and does a good job of keeping the air stirred up. I have two Honeywell turbo fans on the floor blowing between the plants.

My reservoir solution is getting cold. I have a floating thermometer and the solution temperature is right at 60 degrees. Once the temps get down into the 30s and 40s the temp in my res should start to hold steady in the low 50s.

I intentionally put the reservoir outside the growroom so it would get cold. Cold water holds a lot more oxygen than warmer water. The plants will love the cold solution and it will reflect this in the bud development.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:02 AM
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Everything looks real nice cant wait to see them start packing on the weight...I do have one suggestion I think its time to step up the odor control to carbon filter or an ozone generator
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This is looking great so far man, glad to hear its been so smooth.

Its cool to watch someone with the ebb and grow system because i was looking at it for myself. Was comparing that and the multi-flow. You have any probs with that system?

Keep up the good work man! If you run into more heat problems just gota upgrade to a bigger fan, 465cfm seems pretty small for that size of room and you have plenty of cool air for intake, but for now.."if it aint broken..."
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If you run into more heat problems just gota upgrade to a bigger fan, 465cfm seems pretty small for that size of room and you have plenty of cool air for intake, but for now.."if it aint broken..."
I actually have a second 265 CFM exaust fan already installed in the room. If it gets hotter than 85 degrees, which I anticipate it will once they really get huge, I will turn it on too.
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PICTURE UPDATE

Ok, here are the pictures I promised. The plants are now five days into bloom and are 4 times bigger than the last pictures ten days ago. The room is almost filled completely. I will have to be clever in how I arrange the plants in the room so they don't crowd too much.

I am keeping the lamps higher than I normally do and the plants along the walls seem to respond better. Previous crops when the lights were as low as possible, the middle plants got way bigger than ones along the sides. THis time I have the lights about 20 - 24 inches over the plants and growth is a lot more even. Getting more reflected light off the mylar also which helps the plants along the sides.

These plants are growing way faster than I expected. I am adding one tablespoon of H2O2 every night for extra oxygen in the solution. Last night the solution temperature was 59 degrees which to me is awesome.

Here are some pictures from last night.
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