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Old 08-23-2009, 04:26 AM
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First a little back story. On my very first grow back when I was on HG420 I had the grow from hell. First of all I had a two week power outage when temps dropped into the 20’s. I also let them get really dried out a couple of times and to top it off I did the entire thing under CFL’s. I had three Hashberries and one Lockdown and all of them had around 12 seeds per bud when I got around to harvesting. I didn’t think about it much at the time but I stored the seeds and labeled them so I knew which plant they came from.

A little over a year ago I decided to try sprouting them and planted a total of 8 seeds, 2 from each of the original 4 plants. Everybody spouted and when I vegged them out I found that the seeds from one of the Hashberries looked different from the others. Basically it looked like a cross between the Hashberry and the Lockdown. All of the plants were females. I’ve been cloning from my "Hashberry/Lockdown" strain every since.

Wednesday, June 3rd 2009
Veg +0
I took three clones, two for flowering and one to become a new mom. I stuck them under a humidity dome and put them under one 55w 6500k compact T5.

Wednesday, June 17th 2009
Veg +14
All three clones had nice roots so I transferred them to 4” pots. For soil I’m using 4 parts FoxFarms Ocean Forest and one part Perlite. I also use FoxFarm nutrients (Grow Big, Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom, Beastie Bloomz, Cha Ching). Turned on second 55w bulb, this one 3000k.

Wednesday, June 24th 2009
Veg +21
Transferred all three plants from the mom/seedling cab to my veg cab. Lights are two 55w 6500k bulbs and one 55w 3000k bulb.

Saturday, July 25th 2009

Veg +52
Flower +0
Finally have room free in the flower cab. One of the clones went back into the mom/seedling cab to become my new mom. Transferred the other two clones into 10” ports and placed in flower cab. Lighting is one 270w Super Agro HPS in a cool tube.

Wednesday, August 19th 2009
Veg +77
Flower +25
Water today, first time using Beastie Bloomz.

Wednesday, August 22nd 2009
Veg +80
Flower +28
Took some photos today


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Old 08-23-2009, 09:12 AM
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Sweet HG420....lol I was there too and was pissed when it just dissappeared. Just so happend when doc chronic started getting really bad raps on his seed service.
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I never had any problems but then I only got one shipment from him. In fact, the White Rhino seeds I just started are from that original shipment back in 2006.
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:52 AM
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so what would you say the heat put off from 1 or 2 of those 2G11 fixtures is comparable to ?
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The bulb is hot to the touch but I can leave it about 2" off the top of my plants without any problem. They put out 4800 lumens so they probably put out more heat than a standard 55w CFL.

I've attached some photos of what my 3 bulb veg lighting looks like. The bulb shape give me nice even coverage in my veg cab. The bulbs are 21" long and the inside of my cab is 22.75" wide. I usually run a 3000K bulb in the middle with two 6500K bulbs on the outsides.

The first photo show's the underside. I got the reflectors from an aquarium store.
Second show the three bulbs lit. You can really tell the difference in spectrum.
Third photo shows the hood from the top where the ballast is.

Basically all I did was take the white particle board shelf that came with the cab when I bought it and trimmed off a little of the length and width. Ballast on one side, reflectors and sockets on the other.

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so what would you say the heat put off from 1 or 2 of those 2G11 fixtures is comparable to ?
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Old 08-24-2009, 06:05 AM
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The bulb is hot to the touch but I can leave it about 2" off the top of my plants without any problem. They put out 4800 lumens so they probably put out more heat than a standard 55w CFL.

I've attached some photos of what my 3 bulb veg lighting looks like. The bulb shape give me nice even coverage in my veg cab. The bulbs are 21" long and the inside of my cab is 22.75" wide. I usually run a 3000K bulb in the middle with two 6500K bulbs on the outsides.

The first photo show's the underside. I got the reflectors from an aquarium store.
Second show the three bulbs lit. You can really tell the difference in spectrum.
Third photo shows the hood from the top where the ballast is.

Basically all I did was take the white particle board shelf that came with the cab when I bought it and trimmed off a little of the length and width. Ballast on one side, reflectors and sockets on the other.
I was actually pricing them and found the bulbs, clips, and socket (4-pin) and could not find a reflector nor a reflector with sockets

they do come in different wattages though lowest i found was 18w. my main concern would be with heat though, that is why i asked because if 2 were to hot then maybe just 1 would suffice.

I just would'nt want to get something that produces to much heat and end up scraping the whole project.

also, the lower wattages seem to drop considerably in lumen output so I am hesitant ...
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So I actually still have my old plans for when I first built my hood. The reflector looks like it's not being carried anymore but if you go to the Fluorescent Parts for Aquariums section at petstore.com there are some options. The Canopy Light Reflector would be good for a 2 bulb or maybe even a 3 bulb setup. The Sunlight Supply TEK II T5 Retrofit Reflector would work for individual bulbs. At the time I spent ~40 for 3 reflectors. A search for "aquarium reflector" will give you all types of places to research. Basically you can use a lot of the same parts that DIY aquarium people use when building their tank hoods.

As for heat, I just don't think they are that much hotter than standard CFL's.

I love my 2G11 bulbs. The long flat design is perfect for my smaller cabs

The only thing I want to change is to add some switches so I can turn individual bulbs on and off.

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I was actually pricing them and found the bulbs, clips, and socket (4-pin) and could not find a reflector nor a reflector with sockets

they do come in different wattages though lowest i found was 18w. my main concern would be with heat though, that is why i asked because if 2 were to hot then maybe just 1 would suffice.

I just would'nt want to get something that produces to much heat and end up scraping the whole project.

also, the lower wattages seem to drop considerably in lumen output so I am hesitant ...
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Monday, August 24th 2009
Veg +82
Flower +30

Had to water today so I decided to snap a few photos. I put some whiteboard behind to make it easier to view than with Mylar behind.

First photo show both plants
Second photo is tops of plant #1
Third photo is close up of bud on plant #1
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Monday, August 24th 2009
Veg +82
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Had to water today so I decided to snap a few photos. I put some whiteboard behind to make it easier to view than with Mylar behind.

First photo show both plants
Second photo is tops of plant #1
Third photo is close up of bud on plant #1
the whiteboard actually seems to reflect more light and looks a lot brighter in there.
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The Mylar is getting ripped out after this grow, just to hard to keep clean.
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