can you tell I read into things too much, haha. Hell of a fan huh.

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no worries ma friend ..... you gonnaa have a great grow ... sucking and bloing all the way to a heavenly garden of ganja... LOL! hahahahah!

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Nice man!. Looking forward to the updates in the future.

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actually the suck and blo reference has a basis .... years ago when I was working forest fire fighting on the tanker crews (which just also happens to be the years that I first grew outdoors ... back then ... ), and one og the "bird-dog" airplanes we used was a Cessna 337 SkyMaster .... which we used to refer to a suck'n'blo!! hahahaha! cuz is had twin engines ... one front and one back and they sucked and bloed ... hahahaha!

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shit this grow is going to be mind blowing.........bringing a new way to see a vertical scrog in a 2x2..... smoothe showed us it can be done and jig will show us this will probably be the biggest yield you can get in a 2x2 ..... i know i am talking when i have been just growing for a little while but dam i am picturing 4 - 4ft tall screens covered just like his last scrog ..... my hats off to you Jig for just taking this project on something that has been done but not to this scale, and shit i know this is going to be tons of work to keep it right and good

are you going to have your light adjustable or just in the middle of the room ??

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Man oh man... I can't wait to see those massive screens. I'm interested to see how you deal with spreading each plants growth up through the screen. It's going to be a true venture into controlled growing techniques. You're going to have to strike a nice balance between thinning, tying, and bending. I'm really sorry that my journal fell short but once you see what i've been working on i think you'll forgive me.

Some experiences from me to you:

1.DON'T SKIMP ON THE VEG STAGE

This means make sure that you've filled your entire screen to the brim, or at least to your satisfaction. I say this because I failed to follow this rule and was left with an incomplete screen. You really have to think about the veg and flower stage as completely different growths for the plant. So this means that once in flower there is not much more nodal growth and eg. no more growth of sites where a flower can form.

Now you ask well what about the stretch that happens in early flowering? Shouldn't i leave screen space open for the plant to stretch into and fill?

You would think that but, i found out that the stretch of a plant grown this way is less than a normal horizontal ScrOG grow. Being as all parts of the plant get the exact same intensity and distribution of light. The plant stretches at all parts of the plant and thus has less over all amount vegetative growth than expected. Basically this all means it would be best advised to fill the entire screen with vegetative growth (as many nodes as possible) before you but them to flower .

However Jig i say this with a little hesitation as i do not want you to overfill your screen incase your larger plants grow differently than my much smaller plants. I give you this though... its better to be overwhelmed with over growth than underwhelmed with under growth. Also i figure if your screen does over grow you can just cut her back. You should be pretty good at judging how to trim her by that point anyway.

2. DEVELOP EFFICIENT TRAING METHODS

Now Jig i love you and all but i wouldn't want to trade places with you for the next 3 months unless you paid me. I'm afraid you just got yourself a day job. But thats ok because come november you're going to be sitting pretty with a record grow under your belt.

I'm here to help though. To start that statement carries a few attributes. First observe everything. Get to know your plants. Make sure you know exactly how they grow. This is the most valuable information you can have when you're deciding whether to trim or tie a branch down.

Second choose your screen material wisely. I recommend a screen much like mine. It is very malleable yet rigid allowing it to hold a shape. Another quality to take into account is the size of the mesh holes in the screen. I say this because i found that pulling leaves through the screen's mesh to the backside of the screen during the vegetative stage allowed me to un-shade new growth and give room for said growth. This made it so that i got the same results of trimming with out stressing the plant as much.

On that same note, during the flowering stage it is very important to manicure you screen aggressively. This is because if you succeed in packing the screen with buds you're going to have a moisture/airflow problem with the screen. Basically you want to make sure that no leaves or decaying plant matter get stuck in behind a growing flower. It's hard to describe the exact cause of this problem in words but you will understand more exactly what i mean by this statement when it arrises and you deal with it in person. A good clip fan blowing air across the screens will help as well. This is all in efforts to reduce the risk of mold and but rot.

Lastly, the screen gets very heavy at the end of flowering so make sure it has a strong base that can hold the weight.

Hmm ok thats all i can think of for now.

Anyway just some comments. I totally think you can leave it for a week. I left mine for that duration and they were fine. Don't get me wrong though my reservoirs were almost empty when i got back but the plants were fine. Just make sure they're filled to the top . The extra rez idea is a good one though the logistics of it are beyond me right now. It's going to take some thought.

The cool tube is looking nice. Those lights are going to be ice cold. Having the light vertical puts very little restriction on air flow. You know what this means right... you're going to be able to get the plants right up on those bulbs... meaning maximized light and REALLY BIG BUDS! Ok I'm done picking.

Any chair in the place huh...? Hmmm how bout the driver seat... The driver seat in the safari jeep you're going to have to buy to traverse that jungle you're going to have! I'll bring the elephant gun .

I'm really excited to see the vertical method scaled up in size. Little jealous, completely honored that its you pioneering forward though.

Alright I'm out, later.

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Jig I am so glad you decided to do something relatively original man!

Your creativity is beyond my fairly literal mind, so I just can't wait!

I hope I haven't missed this information somewhere, but what kind of timeline are we looking at until this thing gets fully off the ground?

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