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Old 07-12-2009, 06:13 PM
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Default RG's First grow ( DR 150 , 400w , Aeroponic)
Hey , Whats up !

This is my first grow , i have been reading around the boards for about a month. Taking in all the great advice and experiences people here share.

On to the set up , Im using a DR150 tent with a NextGen 400w mh/hps ballast , 4 plant aeroponic system with 360 degree sprayers , GH 3 part nute system , protekt , Vortex 6" fan to exhaust my air cooled hood , ph balance kit , ppm meter , 2 digital timers, rapid rooters , hydroton.

It all cost me about 900 bucks brand new. I will attach some pics of my equipment first and the set up in my spare bedroom.
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Old 07-12-2009, 06:28 PM
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Ok , So two days later i managed to find some clones. They are GDP , i got 4 of them. One of them i noticed was kind of slanted and the bottom fan leaf tips on some of them were cut off, I hope this is ok.

They were rooted in 1 inch rockwool in a cup of perlite. The perlite sketched me because i didnt want i to get in my pump if it dropped into my res. So i blew it all off the cube the best i could.

Then i washed my Hydroton clean and layered some on the bottom of the net cups. Put my clones/rockwool about half way into the cup and covered them over with hydroton.

As for my nute solution i read i should introduce them to the aeroponic at 50 % so i followed the lucas formula for GH and halved up the dosage for the Veg cycle.

I put 7 gals of R.O water into my system. Lucas formula said 0-5-10 - For Vegetative cycle. I did 0-2.5-5 x 7. Added the water first. Micro , then mixed and then the bloom and mixed. I then added my dyna protekt as the bottle suggested.

My ppm at this point was only about 400 PPM my R.O was 0, so this seems right i think for a 50 % nute solution ?

Im adding R.O ph corrected water, and every sunday i will do a full resivoir change. I will bring up the strenght of th nutes this coming sunday.

At the moment my res temps stay around 65-70 pending on time of day. My ambient air temp is around 75 - 83.

Please let me know if you have ay advice !! im a newb and i am in complete awe in some of the buds ive seen grown on this site !

Peace !
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:36 AM
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Hmm when i bought my clones they had a couple fan leaf tops cut off ad very small specs of yellow on the lower bigger fan leafs , i noticed i may have a couple new yellow spots on the tips of the leafs. Also a couple of the fingers of the fn leafs are turning so the bottom is up toward the light.

Not 100 percent sure what the deal is so i made a post on it in the plant problem section.
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Old 07-14-2009, 09:46 AM
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I got a question for anyone , My plant has roots on the side and bottom, not loads but some breaking thru the rockwool and going into the hydroton. They are about 4 to 5 inches tall. They have been in my 3 part GH 50 % solution for a little over 3 days. The owner of the clones also said they were being sprayed with nute water.

right now they are in a 50 percent 400 ppm solution , they are 4 or 5 inches tall. Is this to weak ? should i use the full 100 percent veg solution ? or am i doing it right by keeping it at 50 percent ? I dont know when to go full strength on the nutes.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:19 AM
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I got a question for anyone , My plant has roots on the side and bottom, not loads but some breaking thru the rockwool and going into the hydroton. They are about 4 to 5 inches tall. They have been in my 3 part GH 50 % solution for a little over 3 days. The owner of the clones also said they were being sprayed with nute water.

right now they are in a 50 percent 400 ppm solution , they are 4 or 5 inches tall. Is this to weak ? should i use the full 100 percent veg solution ? or am i doing it right by keeping it at 50 percent ? I dont know when to go full strength on the nutes.
I use GH nutes and the Lucas Formula. All I do with clones is up the strength by about 33% every week (say from 400ppm to 550ppm to 730ppm, etc.) until I reach full strength or it shows signs of nute burn. Never had a problem doing it this way, but different strains may need a little less or more.

With the Lucas Formula you may want to consider some supplements for flowering, if you haven't already. I use Big Bud Bloom Booster for two weeks when I flip to 12/12, and then add Hammerhead for the rest of flowering. These have really improved the size and quality of my buds over the GH nutes alone.

BTW, I believe that cutting the fan leaves in half on clones is a common method used to help the clone concentrate on rooting.

Nice setup, it's obvious you've done your research!
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:42 AM
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Awesome , thanks for the advice. Yah i will definatley pick up some flowering nutes, prolly the ones you mentioned.

I was considering increasing the nutes today even tho its onbly been 3 and half days in my aeroponic. The person who made the clone i think nute burned them so they trimmed off what got burned on the lower leafes. The nute burn signs of yellowish on the tips is still mainly staying on just the older fan leafs.

I did notice today that some of the new leafs that are forming are slightly twisting, some of them show the bottoms up , but their color and texture are fine.
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Awesome , thanks for the advice. Yah i will definatley pick up some flowering nutes, prolly the ones you mentioned.

I was considering increasing the nutes today even tho its onbly been 3 and half days in my aeroponic. The person who made the clone i think nute burned them so they trimmed off what got burned on the lower leafes. The nute burn signs of yellowish on the tips is still mainly staying on just the older fan leafs.

I did notice today that some of the new leafs that are forming are slightly twisting, some of them show the bottoms up , but their color and texture are fine.
In my experience twisting leaves in hydro usually means a ph problem. You have to be careful sometimes with the GH nutes, I've noticed the ph tends to drift down initially, then starts drifting up. So if you adjust the ph to read say 5.6 initially, it'll drift down to 5.0 or below over the first couple of days, then start drifting back up towards 6.0. So I usually adjust my nutes for a 6.0 ph initially.
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Since my humidty is low is it ok to mist the tent / plants lightly a couple times a day to have some more moisture in the air ? and should i ph correct the misting pray first if it is a good idea to use at all :P ?
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Since my humidty is low is it ok to mist the tent / plants lightly a couple times a day to have some more moisture in the air ? and should i ph correct the misting pray first if it is a good idea to use at all :P ?
In your pictures it shows humidity at 46%, this should be fine IMO. You can mist if you want, but I don't think it will raise your humidity much unless you do it constantly. I also wouldn't do it with lights on, don't want to get any water on hot glass, :danger:.

To raise the humidity you can stick a bowl of water where you have that bowl in your picture, or you can invest in a cheap humidifier (< $20).
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Ok here is a new picture of the clones from today, they have been in my aeroponic system for 4 days. I can start to see some roots breaking thru the net cup and going toward my resivoir.

Some of the fan leaf fingers that were cut / had some yellowing when i obtained the clones are starting to die, is this ok ? they were about 3.5 to 4 inches when i got them they are now about 5 and half.
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