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Old 06-28-2009, 10:48 AM
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Default Blue Cheese, PPP, Thai SS...Jerry's Second Grow
Hello and welcome to my second grow journal. I began my first grow (using bagseed) in February of this year...that harvest is finishing up the cure right now. I think I did pretty well for my first go round. A link can be found here.

Armed with the knowledge I gained from this experience, I have embarked on my second grow, this time with seeds purchased from the Attitude seedbank. Actually, the only seeds I purchased were the blue cheese...the PPP and Thai Super Skunk were freebies. I split an order of seeds with a friend, thinking we would be dividing them evenly...only to find he wanted to keep the feminized autoflowering ak-47/lowryder#2 all for himself, despite them being $40 more expensive and we split the cost...

SEEDS: 2 feminized blue cheeses, 1 feminized ppp, and 2 regular thai super skunk. I also have 4 bagseed plants about a month old now that have been topped (and were previously growing in 24oz plastic cups). I repotted them in 5" square pots yesterday, and I think they are pretty happy about it.

SOIL/NUTRIENTS: I'm using Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil, and the fox farm line of nutrients (Grow Big, Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom, Cha Ching) as well as molasses. Water is tap water filtered using a brita faucet filter and stored in 1 gallon jugs. I keep the pH of the water and the nutrient solutions around 6.5.

LIGHTS: For veg I'm using 6 26watt 6500k cfls and 4 23watt 2700k cfls (only because I broke/ran out of the 26watters...but they give a nice spectrum mix...). For flower I have a 360w HPS conversion bulb I run in a 400w MH system. I also have a 400w MH bulb that came with it, but it gets to freaking hot with that thing on and I don't want to run it for 18 hours a day--oh yeah, I'm doing 18/6. It worked well for my last grow, so I'm using it again. I also have a 150watt HPS ballast/fixture that I used for most of my first grow...it is sitting in a box doing nothing right now...my plan was to use it to grow out the autoflowering seeds in the veg room, but that situation sort of fell through (as discussed above).

GROW SPACE: This grow is taking place in my bathroom. The veg room is half of my closet, and the flower room is tucked behind my shower...both are small. I currently have one plant in the flower room, using only 2 24w 3000k t5's. That plant is the top I have taken from one of the 4 currently in the veg room and used as a clone...it was really just an experiment to see if I can clone (which it turns out I can) so I don't care too much about it. Certainly not enough to run the HPS.

VENTILATION: 12" oscillating fan that blows directly on the veg room, keeping temps around 86-87 with the lights on. I purchased a portable a/c that is in the room as well if the temp gets above 88. I needed it to finish off the last grow. Works well, but I try not to use it as much as possible, so this round of plants sometimes get warm.

That's about it. I've got some yeast/sugar water containers for co2 production, but haven't placed them in the veg room yet. I'll do it today--it helps the plant grow at higher temps, and higher temps are what I've got...

I planted the seeds directly in the soil on June 6th. No germinating on paper towels or in water, just pop em in the soil and give some water.


This picture was taken June 16th. Not sure exactly how old they are, but it took them a couple days to break the surface. Growth was pretty slow for the first week or so.


Also the 16th...


Here they are 2 days later.


Also the 18th...


This was 6/23...5 days later...PPP is the front right square pot, blue cheeses are in the other 2 square pots and the Thai SS are in the cups.


This is them today...6/28...about 3 weeks old.


PPP


Blue Cheese B...


Blue Cheese A...much shorter than B...not sure why


One of the Thai SS...looks a little wind blown because the fan is blowing them.


Here's a group shot.



I also attached some pictures from my last grow, just before harvest.


Any/all comments are appreciated and welcome!
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Yo Jer, just gettin 'scribed up here man. What's the deal with the "friend" that wouldn't split the seeds evenly? I remember you mentioning that a while ago. What a dirtbag, I hope you're not helping him learn to grow. I would let that phucker learn on his own LOL.
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Nice one jerry had a look at ur 1st grow just checking out ur 2nd i have had loads of the blue cheese and u will love it real sweet blueberry taste and smell. Will be keeping an eye on ur babies.

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Yo Jer, just gettin 'scribed up here man. What's the deal with the "friend" that wouldn't split the seeds evenly? I remember you mentioning that a while ago. What a dirtbag, I hope you're not helping him learn to grow. I would let that phucker learn on his own LOL.
Nice to have you along again mared .

The situation with my friend is really not that big of a deal. I thought we had worked out the logistics of the deal before we made it, but clearly I was mistaken. He helped me out by providing a safe location where my seeds could be shipped, and I guess he felt he deserved more than half.

I'm not one to dwell on that sort of thing though...we're still cool, and he's still got the beans, so maybe we'll work something out at a later date.

I'm just happy to have some quality genetics to play with this round!

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Nice one jerry had a look at ur 1st grow just checking out ur 2nd i have had loads of the blue cheese and u will love it real sweet blueberry taste and smell. Will be keeping an eye on ur babies.

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Welcome, Evil!

I'm not really sure why I was attracted to the blue cheese, but it was what I wanted for this grow.

I'm already looking into seeds for my next grow, and I'm leaning toward a Sativa-heavy crop, as the blue cheese and ppp are indica dominant. This sative mix from greenhouse seeds looks promising...

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk.../prod_756.html
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I'm scared to plant any of those beans from my GH Sativa mix LOL. Adding anything that takes 14 weeks to flower won't help my space problems. Once I "thin out my herd" and keep only the best strains from the current crop I should have space for at least one of those sativas. I'm thinking Arjan's Ultra #1. Too bad my SSH seed was a dud. I've actually realized it was a sign from the ganja gods that I didn't have the space. The ganja gods are most wise.
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Arjans Haze 3 is good and is medium height for sativa so wont out grow ur grow roomnI'm thinking of getting this on my next grow. But Im definantley getting some chiesel mix of cheese and nyc diesel.



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I'm scared to plant any of those beans from my GH Sativa mix LOL. Adding anything that takes 14 weeks to flower won't help my space problems. Once I "thin out my herd" and keep only the best strains from the current crop I should have space for at least one of those sativas. I'm thinking Arjan's Ultra #1. Too bad my SSH seed was a dud. I've actually realized it was a sign from the ganja gods that I didn't have the space. The ganja gods are most wise.
That super silver haze is the one I wanted to try most...too bad it was a dud. But maybe it was a sign. I've got severe space issues as well, but I'm dying to grow at least one good sativa (the Thai Super Skunks are sativa, but I'm not expecting too much out of them). I'll do it eventually I guess...
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Arjans Haze 3 is good and is medium height for sativa so wont out grow ur grow roomnI'm thinking of getting this on my next grow. But Im definantley getting some chiesel mix of cheese and nyc diesel.

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mmmm....chiesel...

Sucks that "connoisseurs seeds" like that NYC diesel are so expensive...

Do you REALLY get what you pay for?
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mmmm....chiesel...

Sucks that "connoisseurs seeds" like that NYC diesel are so expensive...

Do you REALLY get what you pay for?
I would go with the chiesel from big buddha not to expensive and u get what u pay for. Have alook at Arjans haze#3 at greenhouse they managed to find a short growing sativa and crossed it with Arjans haze. So you get a lovely sativa with the height of an indica. Im definately gonna get some of those seeds for my next grow.

I'm going to amsterdam in just over two months got an email from Franco from greenhouse seeds he told me to let him know when I'm coming so we could meet up have a chat and smoke. Hopefully will get some greenhouse freebies.

I just got to wait till i harvest then I'm off to Dam. Got two months to go till my babies are ready. I got some rhino Jack a cross between white rhino and jack herrer, Skunk haze x ata tundra and Papaya. The rhino jack is the smelliest plant in my grow room. I had smoked some of this and it was real good lovely taste and killer high.


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I would go with the chiesel from big buddha not to expensive and u get what u pay for. Have alook at Arjans haze#3 at greenhouse they managed to find a short growing sativa and crossed it with Arjans haze. So you get a lovely sativa with the height of an indica. Im definately gonna get some of those seeds for my next grow.

I'm going to amsterdam in just over two months got an email from Franco from greenhouse seeds he told me to let him know when I'm coming so we could meet up have a chat and smoke. Hopefully will get some greenhouse freebies.

I just got to wait till i harvest then I'm off to Dam. Got two months to go till my babies are ready. I got some rhino Jack a cross between white rhino and jack herrer, Skunk haze x ata tundra and Papaya. The rhino jack is the smelliest plant in my grow room. I had smoked some of this and it was real good lovely taste and killer high.


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I just watched this video from greenhouse about their arjan's 3...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2XN6KN4kjg

That's pretty freaking awesome about going to amsterdam...and then smoking with the greenhouse guys should be worthwhile!

All those strains just sound ridiculous. In a good way.
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