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Old 06-22-2009, 04:04 PM
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Default Outdoor pic update
So I told myself I was going to wait a week until I went out to see my girlfriends again but I decided to make a trip to try and get rid of the deer who are keeping an eye on things.

Got some peutrified egg solids mixed in with some garlic other stuff and sprayed the hell out of the perimeter and plants. Supposed to do that once a week for 3 weeks to train the animals to stay away. We will see how it goes.

Enough of the blabber... heres the photos
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:07 PM
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this year i used soap on a rope and have had no plants lost to animals
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Awesome! I will take some out with me next time I visit. I'm trying to wait atleast 5 days before I go out there... Like to see the progress in leaps and bounds
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yeah, those pics on my journal, before the pics it was two weeks... i was looking at the wrong height level.. lol but it makes it so much better
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Looking great! nice bush like plants keep it up.
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:32 AM
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Ok, so my original plan to scrog three Rhino's together has been changed to only 2. I reverted the other one back to 24/0 light cycle so I don't have to waste another set of seeds and I know this is already a fem.

I was cruising through here last night and saw that someone reccommended putting the scrog on casters so that it could be removed from the area to watered and maintained easier. Well sure enough I had a mechanics creeper laying around my basement and voila! Scrog on wheels!!!!

Switched the lights on 6/21...they are starting the stretch...will have an update on the outdoor patches either tonight or tommorow...trying to prolong my visits as much as possible
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everythings looking solid bro!
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Thanks doc.. I am going to make this post hoping to cause a stir and see if someone can confirm or deny this claim.

I bought Jorge Cervantes Indoor/Outdoor Bible a few months back and have read the whole thing through... more than once. I am particularly interested with the artificial light facts the book contains. These are the main things I took away from the reading pertaining to marijuana and how it uses light.

First...Forget about power ratings... all that tells you is how much money it will cost you to keep your lights on. 1000watt = 1Kw =.11 cents in most areas

Second... lumens are important but not the sole statistic to base your lighting decision on. The Color spectrum is also very important. Plants only use certain wavelengths of light for photosynthesis. Therefore using a ton of lumens of the wrong wavelength is like shooting a steel door with a million wooden arrows. Finding a light source that reproduces the wavelengths plants like is important. The research I have uncovered show that Flouresecent tubes, and LED are the best at reproducing these specific wavelengths.

400-500nm is ideal for vegatative growth while 650-750nm are ideal for flowering cannabis plants. So plants are using light between 400nm and 750 nm. Photosythetic response is greatest between 600-700nm +/- 25 nm. Flourescent tubes actually compare very well with HID lighting when reproducing these specific wavelengths.

Third...light distribution over canapoy. so that all of the plant material receives equal amount of lumens is important to maximizing how efficiently a plant will photosynthesize. How you distribute those lumens is very important. If the bulb must be raised because of heat issues and 1 main branch that is outgrowing the rest... then light distribution is very uneven. I know reflectors come into play and redirect light...but if it comes down to only 2500-5000 lumens falling on most of the canpoy. 1000 watt HPS produces only 2500-4000 lumens at 3ft. If you can get it as close as 2 ft it is only 5500-8000. I have never grown HID but I am pretty sure it is hard to keep a 1000watter that close to a canpoy especially one that is uneven.

So here is the debate. T5 HO bulbs pump out 5000lumens each and can be bought in many different light spectrum ratings. I have never used T5 so I cannot vouch for how warm the bulbs get... but my T8 bulbs putting out 3000lumens each can touch foliage for hours and not burn the plant.

I am a little baked and I am losing my focus, but to wrap it up. Using SOG or SCROG technique to keep a flat canopy I am wondering if there might be a benefit to using flouros...Cost is much cheaper tan HID.. replace 1 tube at a time if need be...more work required to train the canopy to stay flat but much less power consumed and less heat generated.... definitely not for commercial growers...just maybe a new way for the hobbyist or someone on a low budget to grow....

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Looks good but if I can make a recommendation, you should start weaving those girls through your screen, that's really how you get the benefit of scrog. That way you can keep the canopy as flat as possible. Just take your longer branches and weave them out further from the plant(over and under and over and under and so on) then take your shorter branches and let them come up through the center of the plant, filling in the space that was once the longer branches. Hope this helps.
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THC thanks for the advice bro. I wasn't quite sure if the screen just held them down until they started popping flowers and then stretch through. I will make sure I take the longer branches and weave them through like you said.

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