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Default DAY 17 (night) From Seed
Well Im getting a little nervous about "Small Fry". She isnt growing like "Slow Poke". Im going to raise her up to the light more.

Cab: 78 degrees; 45% humidity

Small Fry: 80 degrees; 54% humidity
Slow Poke: 88 degrees; 48% humidity

After I post the pics, How much longer do you think I should wait to start nutes and LST?

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when you just dropping the seeds in the soil....does it attends to the dark,or the 18hrs of light schedule?????????PLEASE HELP ME.......
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when you just dropping the seeds in the soil....does it attends to the dark,or the 18hrs of light schedule?????????PLEASE HELP ME.......
When you first place the seed in the soil you really only need a good warm temp & moist soil until it has broken the surface of the dirt. So before your seedling has pushed its way up & out of the dirt Lighting is not needed at all. after it has broken the surface 24/0 or 18/6 until flowering time.

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Well Im getting a little nervous about "Small Fry". She isnt growing like "Slow Poke". Im going to raise her up to the light more.

Cab: 78 degrees; 45% humidity

Small Fry: 80 degrees; 54% humidity
Slow Poke: 88 degrees; 48% humidity

After I post the pics, How much longer do you think I should wait to start nutes and LST?

Thanks
You can probably safely start using nutes now, just be carefull not to give them too much to start.

Personally I would start off with a low % of nutes and slowly increase it until you get signs of minor nute burn, then dial it back a bit. This can take weeks to do though. But once you find your plants nute sweet spot you are golden Occasionally you have to dial way back so that you can flush the accumulating nutes out of your soil but this usually only takes a few waterings with no nutes to reduce enough to go another few weeks with full nutes again.

when to start LST is more of a personal preference so whenever you feel that your plant can handle it or you are ready go for it seeming how your plant is still pretty small you may have to wait or do small bends until you get it where you want it. Whenever I have LST'd i always liked to top my plant on its 3rd node. this produces 4 lower branches that can be LST'd out in a + pattern. But again thats how i liked to do it.
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when you just dropping the seeds in the soil....does it attends to the dark,or the 18hrs of light schedule?????????PLEASE HELP ME.......
I started 18/6. I didnt just drop my seeds in the soil. I stated with rock wool cube. They were saturated and then put under the lights to warm up. I stuck the seed in the hole and the grew. I was thinking about doing the whole paper towel thing but didnt want to touch the seedling. Im pretty much doing exact what it says day by day in the "Buds for less book" I dont know what soil you are using. If MG dont use anything else. Im no on 24/7 Sometimes i shut the lights off for a few hours just so it can cool down in the box.

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You can probably safely start using nutes now, just be carefull not to give them too much to start.

Personally I would start off with a low % of nutes and slowly increase it until you get signs of minor nute burn, then dial it back a bit. This can take weeks to do though. But once you find your plants nute sweet spot you are golden Occasionally you have to dial way back so that you can flush the accumulating nutes out of your soil but this usually only takes a few waterings with no nutes to reduce enough to go another few weeks with full nutes again.

when to start LST is more of a personal preference so whenever you feel that your plant can handle it or you are ready go for it seeming how your plant is still pretty small you may have to wait or do small bends until you get it where you want it. Whenever I have LST'd i always liked to top my plant on its 3rd node. this produces 4 lower branches that can be LST'd out in a + pattern. But again thats how i liked to do it.
What is a + pattern? Did you pin down the leaves to? Do you think I should up the humidity a little?

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I started 18/6. I didnt just drop my seeds in the soil. I stated with rock wool cube. They were saturated and then put under the lights to warm up. I stuck the seed in the hole and the grew. I was thinking about doing the whole paper towel thing but didnt want to touch the seedling. Im pretty much doing exact what it says day by day in the "Buds for less book" I dont know what soil you are using. If MG dont use anything else. Im no on 24/7 Sometimes i shut the lights off for a few hours just so it can cool down in the box.



What is a + pattern? Did you pin down the leaves to? Do you think I should up the humidity a little?

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if you chop the top @ the 3rd node you will end up with 4 branches, each of these 4 branches are on a different side of the main stem (so you would have a north, south, east, west branch) when those 4 branches are trained down it makes a + pattern. (of course eventually because you chopped the top shoot at the 3rd node thats 6 branches but i take off the first nodes branches and bury my stalk to that level).

The leaves I always tuck down into the plant or if possible push them under a lower branch so there out of all the new growths way As for the humidity, um uh um. I just go by feel of the room & growth lol. I know its dangerous but thats the way I have always dealt with humidity. lol. So i cannot even give an educated guess on what it should be at.

Your plants look pretty damn good @ day 17, It looks to me like your heat/humidity is all in check.

So i will definitaly let someone else that has more exp with testing & guaging the humidity tell you that one
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if you chop the top @ the 3rd node you will end up with 4 branches, each of these 4 branches are on a different side of the main stem (so you would have a north, south, east, west branch) when those 4 branches are trained down it makes a + pattern. (of course eventually because you chopped the top shoot at the 3rd node thats 6 branches but i take off the first nodes branches and bury my stalk to that level).

The leaves I always tuck down into the plant or if possible push them under a lower branch so there out of all the new growths way As for the humidity, um uh um. I just go by feel of the room & growth lol. I know its dangerous but thats the way I have always dealt with humidity. lol. So i cannot even give an educated guess on what it should be at.

Your plants look pretty damn good @ day 17, It looks to me like your heat/humidity is all in check.

So i will definitaly let someone else that has more exp with testing & guaging the humidity tell you that one
I need a picture to see what you talking about. Im a visual learner, lol.

I think Im going to raise the humidity. Its now 33% in there and its been raining all day and the windows are open. Might just stick a cup of water in there.
Im also going to raise the smaller plant so its closer to the lights. I noticed that The level of the dirt is lower in that pot then the other. I think it will make me feel better. Im going to water the plats tomorrow the same way I did the other day(2 quarts each). Not as much as the book says. Ill wait untill the next time to give 3.5 quarts. So here are the specifics:
Small Fry: 80 degrees; 40% RH
Slow Poke: 88 degrees; 33% RH
Cab temp: 78 degrees
So here they are and here is the book...

I was also thinking about building one of those Hydro tubs out of one of those storage bins. Anyone have directions on how to make one?

Thanks for stopping by....
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I need a picture to see what you talking about. Im a visual learner, lol.

I think Im going to raise the humidity. Its now 33% in there and its been raining all day and the windows are open. Might just stick a cup of water in there.
Im also going to raise the smaller plant so its closer to the lights. I noticed that The level of the dirt is lower in that pot then the other. I think it will make me feel better. Im going to water the plats tomorrow the same way I did the other day(2 quarts each). Not as much as the book says. Ill wait untill the next time to give 3.5 quarts. So here are the specifics:
Small Fry: 80 degrees; 40% RH
Slow Poke: 88 degrees; 33% RH
Cab temp: 78 degrees
So here they are and here is the book...

I was also thinking about building one of those Hydro tubs out of one of those storage bins. Anyone have directions on how to make one?

Thanks for stopping by....
hi. I used at first about 7.5 thousand lumens cfl and had the light about six inches from the newly germinated seeds. Rarely did I have it a foot away and then only after I upped the game with 34 k in lumens cfl high output (and yeah big difference...) I fed every other watering with composted fish flushed heavey about every six or seven waterings.
How is your waters ph? Get a cheap kit for about five to ten bucks and correct as needed.
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