RobotNinja's 1st Grow, Super Silver Haze - Aeroponic 43 Day Flower

robotninja

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[Journal Moved HERE]
Ok, I had originally posted this journal in the wrong section of the forums so I'm moving it here. If this is your first time seeing it, to bring you up to speed, this is my Super Silver Haze Aeroponic grow. My first grow as well. Trying to learn how to run before I can walk.

I couldn't have done anything without the help of Stinkbud's thread which is like the Bible on Aeroponics. You can check that here: https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/116859-harvest-pound-every-three-weeks.html
I Highly recommend reading that thread if your gonna attempt anything with Aeroponics, he has a system that works incredibly well. If you can afford the initial investment, it's well worth it.

If you wanna see my progress up to this point, I don't feel like uploading all those pics again so just goto my old thread here: https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/152385-robotninjas-ssh-grow.html
But I ask that you don't post there, I have moved the thread here so as to keep it in the correct forum. But by all means, feel free to post questions, comments or concerns here.

I'm now on day 43 of flowering and I should have alittle over a month left till harvest if all goes according to plan. Plants look a bit gnarly because they are recovering from a bit of nutrient burn at the moment. You learn alot from your first grow lemme tell ya!

[UPDATE - Day 43 Flower]
34 More days left if she goes the full 11 weeks. Possibly more, who knows. Only the tric's know.

Took awhile to recover from the nutrient burn though. I drained my res once again because they didn't respond well to 1500ppm's. I figured there was a buildup of nutrients from the burn so it would be best to dump all the nutes and let em drink water for awhile. I ran straight tap water (Ph'd to 5.8 for 3 days). I was waiting to see new growth, I also misted the plants after lights out because they were pretty dry from the burn. After the 3rd day, new growth started up again and new root growth started as well. New white hairs are sprouting all over.

Back in buisness, dumped the res and running new RO water with 950 ppms at 5.8 ph still. Res temps in the high 60's, flowering room temp's are 78-80 degrees and 50% Relative Humidity. New bud growth is a dark green color, no yellowing at all. New white hairs are long and stretchy, and the buds seem to get fatter each day.

I also added 3 fans for underneath the SCRoG canopy to add circulation, I could probebly use another, but man they are loud buggers. Don't get the Blizzard Jr. Fans, they are loud and they vibrate! I sleep well with white-noise though so I don't mind. But I think I'll put some rubber mat under em or something.

Alrighty, thats about it. Check the pics, they were taken like 4 days ago but I couldn't upload em cause it seemed like Roll it Up's Database was offline for awhile.
 

NewHiddenGrower

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[Journal Moved HERE]
Ok, I had originally posted this journal in the wrong section of the forums so I'm moving it here. If this is your first time seeing it, to bring you up to speed, this is my Super Silver Haze Aeroponic grow. My first grow as well. Trying to learn how to run before I can walk.

I couldn't have done anything without the help of Stinkbud's thread which is like the Bible on Aeroponics. You can check that here: https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/116859-harvest-pound-every-three-weeks.html
I Highly recommend reading that thread if your gonna attempt anything with Aeroponics, he has a system that works incredibly well. If you can afford the initial investment, it's well worth it.

If you wanna see my progress up to this point, I don't feel like uploading all those pics again so just goto my old thread here: https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/152385-robotninjas-ssh-grow.html
But I ask that you don't post there, I have moved the thread here so as to keep it in the correct forum. But by all means, feel free to post questions, comments or concerns here.

I'm now on day 43 of flowering and I should have alittle over a month left till harvest if all goes according to plan. Plants look a bit gnarly because they are recovering from a bit of nutrient burn at the moment. You learn alot from your first grow lemme tell ya!

[UPDATE - Day 43 Flower]
34 More days left if she goes the full 11 weeks. Possibly more, who knows. Only the tric's know.

Took awhile to recover from the nutrient burn though. I drained my res once again because they didn't respond well to 1500ppm's. I figured there was a buildup of nutrients from the burn so it would be best to dump all the nutes and let em drink water for awhile. I ran straight tap water (Ph'd to 5.8 for 3 days). I was waiting to see new growth, I also misted the plants after lights out because they were pretty dry from the burn. After the 3rd day, new growth started up again and new root growth started as well. New white hairs are sprouting all over.

Back in buisness, dumped the res and running new RO water with 950 ppms at 5.8 ph still. Res temps in the high 60's, flowering room temp's are 78-80 degrees and 50% Relative Humidity. New bud growth is a dark green color, no yellowing at all. New white hairs are long and stretchy, and the buds seem to get fatter each day.

I also added 3 fans for underneath the SCRoG canopy to add circulation, I could probebly use another, but man they are loud buggers. Don't get the Blizzard Jr. Fans, they are loud and they vibrate! I sleep well with white-noise though so I don't mind. But I think I'll put some rubber mat under em or something.

Alrighty, thats about it. Check the pics, they were taken like 4 days ago but I couldn't upload em cause it seemed like Roll it Up's Database was offline for awhile.

Your not using stinkbud's flowering system anymore?
 

robotninja

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Huh? I am still using the stinkbud system for both Veg/Clone and Flowering. Except I'm using a small scale version of his system because I can only grow 6 Mature plants so I got 3x net cups per fence post. You can't see the fenceposts because they are underneath the growchamber. I used plywood with small 3 inch circles for the stems to grow through, keeps the heat/light separated from the root chamber. Also reflects the light better.
 

NewHiddenGrower

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Huh? I am still using the stinkbud system for both Veg/Clone and Flowering. Except I'm using a small scale version of his system because I can only grow 6 Mature plants so I got 3x net cups per fence post. You can't see the fenceposts because they are underneath the growchamber. I used plywood with small 3 inch circles for the stems to grow through, keeps the heat/light separated from the root chamber. Also reflects the light better.


awesome! i bet your 6 plants can add up to 1 pound
 

Maybetomorrow

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looking good buddy! Like the setup sorry to hear about the nute burn. Did you water get to low that caused them to get nute burn? correct me if I'm wrong but I have a line marked on the pump which shows 10 galls max, then a line for ever gallon down to help keep an eye on levels. I refill to max then check ppm then add a premix till correct ppm.
 

robotninja

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Yup, u guessed it. I let the res level drop too low so the ppm's sky rocketed, big mistake.

But the good news is they are recovering from the burn nicely, however I do feel it's going to effect my yield. I was hoping to get 5 oz's but now I'm thinking more like 3. Those two smaller plants just never got the size and it shows, the left side of the screen is pretty vacant.
 

Maybetomorrow

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A little test I did was let the water get down to the 5 gallon mark. At that point the ppm are at about 2500, from here is were you really find out if your plants can handle higher amount of nutes. All my plants were fine for 2 days at 2500ppm So I just went ahead and left it. This makes me wonder if there is a relation to the high ppm's/ and yield/ Potentcy. Did you happen to catch what the ppm were at before you added water? That will let you know what its your Toxic level is for sure.
 

robotninja

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Yeah, my meter maxes out at 2,000 ppm's so it's hard to know just how high I let it go. But the water lvl was pretty low, like 5 gallon mark for sure.

It's funny, I was able to run 1,900 ppm's with the Veg formula, but with the bloom mix it seems to burn at anything over 1,500 ppms. That's about the point when the plants started to dry up and yellowing appeared.

I'm playing it safe and running 900-1,200 from here on out. I did alittle research on other Aeroponic SSH grows and it seems 1,200 is the max she likes to take without supplimenting co2 of course.

A very finiky strain when it comes to ppm's, she doesn't like em high. Kinda sucks, I always figured the higher you can run ur ppm's, the more yield. But SSH isn't know as a high yielding strain I guess.

At any rate, my 6 clones are not doing anything! It's been 16 days and still no roots. But I took the cuttings while the nutrient burn was happening, so this could ultimatly be there demise. They are also having a tuff time reverting back to the vegetative state. Take ur cuttings withing the first 1-2 weeks of flowering, trust me! Any longer and they just seem to continue flowering...

Honestly, I don't feel like keeping a 11-12 week strain anymore as it is. I'm going to make a trip to the dispensary and pick up a new strain to run as my next batch. I still have about 5 weeks left on these flowering girls, so that gives me a months worth of vegitation for a new strain. I have no idea what cuttings they are offering right now, so I'll get a 8-9 week strain if it's available. I have little patience, and 77 days in flowering is too long!

Any suggestions for possible new strains? Last time I visited they had White Rhino, White Mustang, SSH, Kali Mist, and a few others slip my memory.
 

robotninja

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Alrighty, I purchased 6 new clones yesterday at a local dispensary. I decided to go with BlackBerry Kush, this stuff is the chronic! Kinda pricey at 20$ a clone, but it's a clone only strain no seed bank sells it from my understanding.

The genetics are DJ Short Blueberry x White Rhino, it's a cali strain. Guy threw in a free sample as well. I shoulda snagged some pics of the bud, but I smoked that gram in a heartbeat! The taste has a hint of a berry flavor, burns a long time in a bowl, really smooth no coughing, instant high. I was blasted for a good 2-3 hours, very hard to get up off the couch if you know what I mean. Good for pain reliefe or for insomnia, stuff is strong!

But the thing that sold me on this strain was the sheer ammount of tric's on this thing. I'v never seen so many tric's on a bud before. It also turns a dark purple sometime black colors, but all you see is white from all the frosty crystalls.

It's about a 8 week flowering strain. Much faster than the SSH, also produces more bud as well. So all in all, it's win win. Clones are all good size, like 5-7 inches tall and bushy. I will top them all multiple times, I want to completly fill my screen next time round. Also I'm gonna run my Vegetative nutrients for the first 2 weeks of flowering to induce more branching and bushy growth.

Anyone ever ran Blackberry Kush? I can't find much info on it to be honest, any help would be appreciated IE ppm levels in hydro.

I'll get some pics later tonight...
 

robotninja

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[Update Day 45 Flower]
So far so good, new white hairs are visible on every bud just about. Also some new root growth to go along with it. Buds should generally just fatten up from here to the end. But I think she puts on the most weight in the final 2 week flush with Sweet. Add's weight and ton's of flavor, Stinkbud recommends running Sweet throughout the entire flushing process.

Running 5.8 ph still, 1,050 ppm's. Had to top off the res today, was almost halfway gone. My next investment is definatly a nice RO filtration system.

Buds seem to be getting more tric production, they are really starting to frost over rather nicely. The smell isn't that strong, I might not have to get a carbon scrubber for this grow.

Oh, the 6 clones of SSH basically got chopped and dried and smoked. They had a mini flush so to speak being in the cloner with tap water for the past 2.5 weeks, they didn't taste too bad. Lemony/citrus taste, high was a creeper. Mild, but uplifting energetic smoke, pretty strong for being harvested half way through. I can only expect great things from the full 11 week harvest plus a month of drying/curing.

Here is some pics, I finally learned how to focus in on the digi-cam! I'm a horrible photographer btw...

[Update Day 2 Cloner - BlackBerry Kush]
Started day two of my BlackBerry Kush clones. They are awsome looking clones, very bushy/branchy even without any topping. Although I do plan to top each of them multiple times, I'm going for 100% Screen coverage in my next grow. They are indica dominant, so they should stay nice and short for me, quick flowering time as well.

I will keep em in the cloneing process untill each has well developed roots (IE: 7-8 inches of roots hanging from the bottom of the net pots). Once each is developed enough, I'll goto Veg with 18/6 lighting, and upgrade to the 4x T-5 light fixture running blue actinics as well. Gonna top each at the 5th node.

As you can see, this BBK is crazy with tric production. Even these clones have pre-flowers and some are frosted already with crystals! You absolutly have to see the final product, I'm telling you it looked like it snowed all over the buds. The White-Rhino lineage is strong in this one.
 

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jigfresh

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Did they have the clones under 12/12 at the collective? Or maybe they were cut from a plant that just started flowering? Maybe like someone was growing the mother from seed and wanted to sex it before cloning. Just seems strange that they have the preflowers and trich strait from the collective.

No matter what they look nice bro. Good score.

I smoked some of that strain a couple weeks ago... excellent.
 

robotninja

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They had em 24/0 at the collective, but I think they were cut directly from a flowering mother. I must have picked em up fresh outta 12/12.

Either way they are really healthy clones, well worth the 20$ ea.

I'd rate the smoke in my top 3 all time smokes next to Northern Lights and some old school Purple Haze. Very relaxing chill kinda high, none of the sativa paranoia/anxiety I sometimes get. Best after a long day at work, come home, lay out on the couch and smoke a fatty, watch some adult swim or something :joint:
 

Maybetomorrow

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Hey looking good, you wanna get more of a indica strain finish faster if I'm not mistaken. Try adding 135mL of clonex to 5 gallons of water. I mange to get roots in 5-7 days and I'm in my 4tf week of flowering. The longer you go into flowering the longer it takes to revery back to veg state. MY 2 week old clones are growing like mad and re-enter veg about 4 days ago.
 

robotninja

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Yea, I added about 130ml of clonex to tap water with 5.8 ph. The roots are already dangling from the pots a few inches, I wanna let em all develop fully before I start feeding nutes.I made the mistake of vegging too early with the SSH, that's why the 2 smaller SSH on the left of my screen never developed to full potential. Small roots = small plant.

I topped/fim'd 4 of the 6 clones last night, I'll do the other 2 when they develop a 5th node. I have a feeling my 2nd grow is gonna trump my first as far as total weight. Shooting for 6 oz's on round 2, round 3 should have Co2 so then I'm hopeing for 8 oz's per 6 plants.
 

Maybetomorrow

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Yea, I added about 130ml of clonex to tap water with 5.8 ph. The roots are already dangling from the pots a few inches, I wanna let em all develop fully before I start feeding nutes.I made the mistake of vegging too early with the SSH, that's why the 2 smaller SSH on the left of my screen never developed to full potential. Small roots = small plant.

I topped/fim'd 4 of the 6 clones last night, I'll do the other 2 when they develop a 5th node. I have a feeling my 2nd grow is gonna trump my first as far as total weight. Shooting for 6 oz's on round 2, round 3 should have Co2 so then I'm hopeing for 8 oz's per 6 plants.

I just can't wait to see what I get out of my 10 plants without co2. I was thinking about adding some gravity into the system the last 3 weeks of flowering just too see what it can do. But it say to raise your lights 6 to 12 inches was you start it. But I lack the height to do that so might wait till the next time around.

The first pic is one of the ice plants maybe 5 days ago. Wondering if it will still expand and bulk up. The second one is the first unit, see how over grown it is along with the height issue. Third pic is just before the lights came on of my best ICE plant.
 

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robotninja

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Wow, u grow some tall ass plants man! They look really healthy too, much better than mine hehe.

You should utilize a screen or netting of some sort to try and maintain an even canopy height. Although that's difficult when ur running multiple strains, some grow tall, some don't.

I try to keep my light 6-12 inches away from the canopy, air cooled hoods are awesome. I can touch the glass with my bare hands, it's warm but not hot.
 

Maybetomorrow

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Wow, u grow some tall ass plants man! They look really healthy too, much better than mine hehe.

You should utilize a screen or netting of some sort to try and maintain an even canopy height. Although that's difficult when ur running multiple strains, some grow tall, some don't.

I try to keep my light 6-12 inches away from the canopy, air cooled hoods are awesome. I can touch the glass with my bare hands, it's warm but not hot.
Not by choice that's for sure. I was looking into using the scroging but I wasn't sure the concept behind it other then putting a screen above your plants to support them. And something about under the canopy. Thats as far as I got. But does it increase yeilds? Might have too look into it.

I'm waiting to get everything done at once. So I know I need 2 fans to properly have my room ready for co2. and thats goning to cost some cash to get it correctly done.
 
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