First White Widow Grow Attempt in the Caddy - Page 2

happygrow · #11 07-09-2007, 12:47 AM

6-28 Th

11:30p pH 5.89/TDS 609 (higher so evaporation?)

#2 getting more leaves in center, tinsy, very yellow on bottom

#3 Tall but not many leaves at all and yellowish, tall

#4 getting more leaves but burns (read water beads prism & fry?)

#5 Short, 3rd most leaves, yellowish

Seems all except 4 are very yellow, even 4 on bottom. TDS is 603 though?? Will add 1 more tsp to see if it makes the yellow go away??

happygrow · #12 07-09-2007, 12:54 AM

6-29-7

Bought GH Flora 3 part nutes. Cleaned out tank and used glu gun to add 2 10" air stones to oxygenate and discourage algae. Agro store guy says 5.5 to 6.5 pH is good, 6.0 recommended but his did best at 5.50 so will lower pH

Added nutes only to seedling recommendation and added more after a couple of hours when I made sure they weren't in shock from new brand of nutes. (And possibly nutes that work since old nutes 4 yrs old)

6-30-7

Added nutes to mild growth stage.

happygrow · #13 07-09-2007, 12:58 AM

7-2-7
pH 5.75/TDS broken again

Plants really improving. Took off most real yellow/white leaves so all green now.

#2 5 cm Now 2nd fullest & 3rd tallest. Yellow on bottom level, but has added 3 more dark green levels

#3 4.5 cm 2nd tallest but least leaves. Yellow bottom, next has yellow tips and new green growth in center

#4 7.5 cm (Not counting 2 new leaves going straight up) Tallest and fullest. Roots to water level (no others showing roots) Has yellow bottom level and next up has a few burn spots, probably prisming from sprayed water droplets. THEN 3 more rows, 2 big leaves and new growth on top ALL dark green. Finally!!

#5 3.5 cm Shortest with most bottom yellow levels (2) and then 2 new layers of green on top

Will see what happens now as going into vegetative growth state with last of nutes added today

Adding nutes for vegetatave state (Gro 3tsp gal/Micro 2tsp/gal/Flower 1tsp gal so Flower stays same)

Now has 1 tsp per gal (9 gal x 1tsp = 3T of ea)

For Vegetative Growth Stage
Added 2T Gro (2T is 2tsp more per gal) for 3tsp gal
1T Micro (1T is 1tsp more per gal) for 2tsp gal
0 Flower is 1tsp gal

No more nutes

happygrow · #14 07-09-2007, 01:03 AM

7-3-7

Plants look good, especially #4, WOW!! Yesterday’s new leaves are almost out and whole!! What a nice birthday present!!

happygrow · #15 07-09-2007, 01:37 AM

Okay, I've caught up with this journal. A good exercise in why procrastination is not such a good thing. Seems like it's taken forever to type all this out.

7-8-7

Oh, how quickly everything changes. Noticed dark brown coloring near bottom of all 4 stalks. There is a white bumpy covering which I at first thought was just the stalks getting thicker, but after reading on rollitup, thinking it’s one of the funguses?? There is a thin covering on the stems too that has split (almost like a snake shedding it's skin) and you can see the nice green stem underneath. What's f***ing with my babies???

Have doors open 24/7 and oscillating fan on all day (cool enough at night that I don’t need it on) and humidity is usually around 24-30ish, so not sure if this is what it is or not. Looks like any of them might just topple over at any time since the stems are very thin where the dark circle is.

Just noticed this yesterday I think. Will have to check with the hydro store tomorrow. Read somewhere you can use baking soda to combat a fungus, but not sure if that's what this is or how to go about using the baking soda???

Anyone know what I've got? Or what to do about it? Afraid I'll lose these plants.

happygrow · #16 07-10-2007, 08:29 PM

Okay, I know why I'm doing this, but I'm not sure what LST stands for. Anybody know?

Last night I tied my HUGE 6.5" plant down to the 90 degrees so the hormone will distribute to all the other branches (well, they're not really branches, LOL) would reach for the sky. Looked a little limp leaved when I went to bed, but this morning all the smaller leave clusters are getting some light and looking chipper. Now if I can just figure out what to do about the brown on the stalks???

Read a bunch, but can't remember if you wait for age (know you get more and better end product) or height (well, 6.5" isn's exactly tall, is it?) to determine when to start the flower stage. My criteria at this point since everything has taken so darn long with so many probs (yes, my 2nd TDS is faulty too, so can't get TDS on nutes for a couple of weeks) is flowering and curing before BURNING MAN 2007 at the end of Aug. Can't leave them in vegie state for the 10 or so days I'll be gone and no one will be here to add water, nutes, check lights, etc while I'm gone. Gonna have to prompt those little buggers to do their thing earlier than I was expecting....but when???

happygrow · #17 07-10-2007, 08:37 PM

Well, looks like we have the grunge. Thanks Potroast for your help. Waiting for your clarification to make sure I understood your instructions before I go ahead and do it the way I interpreted, which may not be the right way.

Yesterday the plants looked like they'd fall over at the brown pythium area, where it's lots thinner than the rest of the stalk. Today they seem perky though. Guess I need to add some 3% peroxide and also flush because of the white crusty stuff that may be nutrient salt build up because my nutes are so high, even though I followed the GH instructions for FloraGro/Micro/Bloom in Vegetative Growth Stage. (They're 5.5 wks old so they should be old enough to be in agressive veg state shouldn't they? Unless maybe they're wake and baking for their veg state, LOL.) Yesterday I added 1tsp/gal of Floriliscious Grow to the probably already too high nutes because the guy at my hydro shop said it would help clean up the roots and wouldn't interfere with the FloraGro 3 part I'm using. Roots are still nice and white so far, even if the stalks have an area with brown fungus. Glad my babies aren't leaving me though!!

happygrow · #18 07-14-2007, 10:17 PM

Haven't been able to flush or change nutes yet and plants seem to be doing okay as the brown area is growing away from the moist rock wool. Hydro store told me to flush with clearex for the salt accumulation on my stalks (possibly causing the weakness that allows the always present pythium to wreak havoc) and then to add the recommended amount of Super Oxy H2O2 as an additive to my regular tank nutes, Supergro/micro/flower & Floriliscious Gro. Won't get to it immediately, so wondering if anyone has any recommendations. Potroast??

happygrow · #19 07-14-2007, 10:37 PM

Plants are looking great. Can't wait to doctor them, but in the meantime, they're flourishing nicely. Have LST'd them all, even the tinsy one, since I'm using the aggressive growth nute formula and leaves are popping out all over and loving the light. My #4 best plant is growing amazingly quickly!! Smile for the camera!

The pics:

#1 is my #4 bigest plant 7-10 since LSD
#2 is #4 now, wow (for me)
#3 is all of my 4 white widows 7-10
#4 is my other 3 plants today (besides #4 in pic #1) bent over, not tied

Today I moved the plants around so they had more growth space. I'll define the numbers later.

happygrow · #20 07-17-2007, 06:24 AM

At last, able to flush my tank. Ran Clearex for 2 hrs because my salt build up was on my stalks and heard that could lead to pythium, which we have. Couldn't believe how fast all the new yellow leaves turned green, almost before my eyes.

Then ran low Super Oxy H2O2 for 20 min before adding the plants. Ran a bit longer then added nutes. Since I have to wait 7 wks to flower/cure, only added 2/3 GH nutes for Mild Growth rather than Aggressive Growth as before. Will add the other 1/3 tomorrow if they look okay.

Have some nute burns, probably cuz of the high heat lately and water evaporated quicker than I realized and didn't get tank diluted like I should have. Bad me, poor plants.

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