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Old 04-28-2009, 10:49 AM
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Default First Time Waterfarm Closet Grow [PICS] Advice Welcome
Hello and welcome to my grow journal.

I debated starting a grow journal and put it off for a good while. So to catch you up to speed...

I had picked up a germination tray for my outdoor vegetable garden months ago, and it actually arrived post planting time for my area, so it was more or less a waste. Out of interest, don't all grows start this way?, I decided to germ some bag seeds. I gathered up 10 seeds from my stash box and dotted them into the germ kit. Wouldn't you know it, 3 sprouts, before the tomatoes, before the peppers, before the squash... All told I ended up with 5 good sprouts.

Once the first true leaves poked up their little heads I moved them all to a modded AeroGarden. By modded I mean, I didn't expect to anything to sprout, so I didn't have the stupid little AG cages you snap in the top tray. Instead I removed the tray, filled with a mix of 60% Hydrotron expanded clay pebbles and 40% Miracle-Gro potting soil. I disconnected the lamp hood wire from the base power adapter, and picked up a lamp wire from Radio Shack and plugged it into an independent timer.

Before any gets on me for doing this to a fairly decent prebuilt aeroponic system. Understand that it was an act of desperation, and not planned intention. I needed to transplant to something, and I knew I needed light, that bastard system was the child of my necessity.

Moving right along... After about a week in the ghetto AG, I added some more lights, CFL's ranging in wattage... Then a few fan leaves later we find ourselves here...



A little closer up view under my "hood"...



So the system is running nicely now, after a possible nute burn I flushed the system with distilled water, and filled the tank with straight pH proper Spring Water. I'm about to be out of town for a few days, so I plan on leaving the system like this till I return. Anyone know anything about spring water? Does it bring anything to the party? I assume some trace minerals, basically I'm just trying to wash the roots, and get them a little stronger before I return the nute barrage.

Also I picked up some maxicrop liquid seaweed today. I plan to fortify the spring water with this, I hear its awesome for root development which is what my main concern is now.

Here are some photos of the leaf damage...



and a little closer...




Also, I have all 5 plants in the same water farm. I'm hoping for at least 3 females out of the bunch. Once sexed, I plan on doing some LST to maximize the yield of the (hopeful) 3 plants in the one WaterFarm unit.

I'm on a 18/6 light cycle and watering every other hour during the light cycle, pump on one hour, pump off one hour, repeat...

Any questions or comments are more than welcome.
Keep checking back as I plan to update fairly regularly.

Good day, and happy growing!

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Old 04-28-2009, 10:55 AM
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:12 AM
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So here are the pictures...
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So after two days of straight pH spring water, all new growth is coming in healthy and green. I leave today for a few days, and feel confident that running pure water, no nutes for the next few days is will remedy most of the plants issues, and my concerns about nute burn.

I'm also beginning to consider the possibility that was some heat and under watering abuse. My pump timer seemed to have kicked off for a couple days before the fresh res of spring water.

Solution:
I purchased a new timer. This time avoided the digital and went for mechanical, it seems to work like a charm. Additionally, I have been feeding the leaves with a fine mist spray of fresh water, and trace amounts of worm casting tea.

Fingers crossed, I'll return home to healthy plants.
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Old 04-30-2009, 08:25 PM
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Default Several views... No comments?
So I've noticed a number of views, but no helpful hints...

+rep for any advice about the plants, diagnosis, etc...

I'm pretty sure it was just heat damage. I'm still out of town and returning home tomorrow hopefully my kids will be feeling healthy!

Wish I could burn one here... maybe I will???
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Nice! Your grow box is awesome. I wish i could get mylar here.

I think most people go with less than 50/50 water pump timing...Mostly i hear of 15 on 45 off...but don't go by that, i personally haven't tried a proper hydro setup yet.

Do you have an air pump in your res? and do you have an oscillating fan blowing gently on them to build stem strength?

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Old 05-01-2009, 06:32 PM
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HOORAY!!!

I just got home about an hour ago, and of course the first thing I checked was my kids/girls (fingers crossed). Turns out, it was the damn timer that screwed things up. The plants took on damage from not being watered for a couple days. The new timer works like a charm. I walked in and the pump was running actually.

All five have not only recovered, but EXPLODED with new growth. I didn't take an exact count yet, but I think I recall some 5 leaf sets AND 7 leaf sets. I guess I'll get going with the nutes tomorrow. Its almost as if they were asking me to add the nutes when I walked in tonight.

I have some pictures I plan to post shortly. But for now, I've got soup on the stove that needs some attention.
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Sooooo here are the photos. Aren't they lovely???


They were bagseeds, so I have no clue about the strain. But now that the leaves are coming in I'm wondering if it's too soon to guess the strain?


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shakle those are sexy plants i may turn to you for hydro advice come my next grow(itll be in a cabinet). +rep for the closet set up i wish i could do one.
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Default Good nute formula?
Today is the day that my kids are going back on a healthy diet of liquid nutrients.

I have the Flora Series that came with the water farm, and I have yet to read anything bad about them. I also picked up the Flora Nova 2 part system, grow and bloom from the hydro shop. Also lying around is Dyna-Gro Pro Tekt which is a silicon solution to strengthen the cell walls, which leads to stronger stems and hardier leaves. Finally, I have maxicrop Liquid Seaweed.

Here is the breakdown for each piece...

1-Flora Series

-FloraGrow 2% Nitrogen / 1% Phosphate / 6% Potash / 0.5% Magnesium

-FloraMicro 5% Nitrogen / 1% Potash / 5% Calcium / 0.0005% Cobalt
0.1% Iron / .05% Manganese / 0.0008% Molybdenum

-FloraBloom 5% Phosphate / 4% Potash / 1.5% Magnesium / 1% Sulfur

2-Flora Nova

-Grow 7% Nitrogen / 4% Phosphate / 10% Potash / 4% Calcium
1.5% Magnesium / 2% Sulfur / 0.01% Boron / 0.01% Chlorine
0.002% Cobalt / 0.01% Copper / 0.1% Iron / 0.03% Manganese
0.003% Molybdenum / 0.02% Zinc

-Bloom 4% Nitrogen / 8% Phosphate / 7% Potash / 4% Calcium
2% Magnesium / 2% Sulfur / 0.1% Iron

3-Maxicrop Liquid Seaweed 1% Potash / 1% Chlorine

4-Dyna-Gro Pro-Tekt 3% Potash / 7.8% Silicon

Also, here is an excerpt from a product website with more information about the maxicrop
" Maxicrop Kelp contains over 70 minerals, micronutrients, amino acids and vitamins. Also contains growth regulators which stimulate vigorous root development and plant growth. "

So that is in a nutshell the general breakdown of what I have on hand. I had planned on going with the Flora Series, at the average growth strength recommended. Then, fortifying it with the liquid seaweed for root development, and the pro-tekt to make the leaves hardier, and strengthen the stems. The way I figure, better roots = more nutes for the plant, and stronger stems = able to hold larger buds.

If anyone has any suggestions, or knows of an "awesome" nute blend/recipe, please feel free to share. I'm open to suggestions, in mL/gal preferably.
 

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