Yea man I see some growth. Looks to be a little bit of overwatering like you said. Are you measuring the ph of the water you are using?

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Hey man,
Yep ph is around 6 - 6.5...I read this is optimal range for soil. I'm also using distilled water. No ppm / ec meter but distilled is usually good right.

I overwatered so bad to start with..so i stunted the plant. Now its growing rapidly. Day 9 the plant was 2 milk leaves and one set of serrated true leaves. In only a few days I already have like another 5 leaves on the way. When i went to bed last night the growth was tiny. This morning i can see leaves distinctly..

I'm not sure if the plant is fully over the shock yet, but I love how fast it is growing.

prot

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OK cool, yea I was just noticing the new growth was looking a little yellow and that could be from overwatering or ph imbalance so I wanted to make sure. 6.5 ph is good for soil. Keeping the plants on the dry side is good for a lot of things when you are new to growing. It reduces the chances of getting mold, fungi, or bugs. Plus the roots do search for water like you thought. So yea man nobody is perfect in the beginning. You should have seen the horrors my first plants went through. I overnuted them bad. I really wouldn't recommend giving your plants nutes until they are two weeks old or 4 nodes tall. You can't make them grow any faster by nuting before that age, you'll only run into problems.

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Looking good mate check < My First Greenhouse Grow > tell me what you think

I think that's just my camera and the hps bulb Hehe, the new growth is a light green, the color i would expect a healthy plant to be. Ill try to take some naturally lighted pics tomorrow for yas. Also the point you make about nutes is awesome. And of course its right..plants arent like mammals...we cant force food down their throat to make them fat...they only take up what they need and putting more in the water than they ned is just making less of that water available for them to use as water.

I may be doing the ph thing wrong.

Im measuring and adjusting the ph of the water im watering with.. Is that right? or do i measure the runoff and try to compensate and make the runoff the optimal ph range?



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Had an accident today...went out to find the little one upside down with its pot on top of it...there was no breakages but we will see if its ok soon...I planted it in 100% perlite, sat the pot in a res of water, added an airstone IN the bottom of the pot and we will see if it works. I hear water bubbling so i might be ok.

go ahead and give me crap about it...I deserve it .

prot

ps. Its not the end of the world....lol..I just wish someone else from bloody SA was on here so i could get a few clones.

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Well, its been a few hours and the plant looks the same...I guess long as it doesn't look any worse things are still ok right?

Just in case this is the end of the plant things i have learned from this experience and WILL take with me to the next grow:

Watering is something to be done sparingly.
Nutes are poison. Literally. They are kind of like drugs for the plant. As long as you stay within the plants tolerance it will have a happy and stress free life. Overdose it though, and bad things happen.
Baby plants, just like human babies (i assume) have ZERO tolerance for drugs (nutes).

So my plan for the next grow, which will continue here seeing as this wasn't a full grow and contains all my setup info:

Germ the seeds.
Water with nothing but distilled water.
Don't water till its dry enough. This could be only once every few days.
After the milk leaves drop off, start nutes, very very diluted. Will mix in 2 liter bottles starting at 25%.
Nutrients will be given in the following manner:
- Plain water
- Nutes
- Plain
- Nutes
- Plain - flush
- Nutes

etc.

The more i do the worse the plants are. They are sophisticated living beings...they arent mindless toys. Plants grow themselves, we dont grow plants. All we can do is provide the stuff the plant needs to do its thing. The closer we get to being spot on (not too little not too much) of everything (light, heat, water, nutes, stress) the better the plant will grow itself.

SO basically, sit my ass the fuck down. Dial in the right amount scientifically..no more playing by ear.

Find something else to focus on so i let them go and do their thing.

prot

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I think there's new growth...this plant is a glutton for punishment...a pain slut lol..it gets off on adrenaline...

Lol, i think i wont smoke any of this plant if it makes it to harvest....it will be like the movie "The happening"...it will produce some chemical that will make me put myself through all the shit i put it through...

lol...im wasted...The res is sitting at ph 5.9 now and is stable...thats pretty good i think.

I hope his plant does pull through, theres definite new growth...the leaves are all unfurling and fattening up, but are still the same color...the only thing in the res is distilled water, a bit of tap water for cal/mag, a tiny bit of b1 no stress.

So hopefully the leaves will change color. If this works ill be prompted to buy a proper setup for my dwc...Im gonna have one aero one dwc and see whats better. I love the micro roots that you get with aero, larger surface are for more nute uptake and all...but i understand its prone to failure with any mess up in nutes..

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I like that.

Plants seem to grow best when left alone. Basic necessities must be fulfilled but beyond that you are just fussing with them.

One note about nutes is that the "poison"you refer too is really the nitrogen component. Veg nutes are very high in nitrogen and the plant will take up more than it needs and attempt to store it in the leaves. This creates a toxicity of sorts and results in what we see as "nute burn"- bright rusty orange spots on the fan leaves. So your goal is to not give the plant more nitrogen than it has capacity to store in the leaves. When you get to flower on the other hand, bloom nutes are primarily phosphorous and potassium, no nitrogen. The plant's roots will not take up more of these nutes than the plant needs. There is little danger of burning and during flower you should be pushing the levels. But during veg less is more, especially for the beginner.

That being said, these are very resilient plants and yours will probably recover if you treat it carefully from now on. I've had plants recover from horrific accidents before - always faster and better than I expected.

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Well, its not drooping, the new growth is bright green...im not thinking its a healthy green though..Its lights out in 45 minutes, so i will go mist it lightly just before lights out.

Hopefully tomorrow morning ill wake up to a plant thats alive.

Its not dead yet, and there has been growth today..even after all the trauma..the little thing has a real grip on life..and if it survives this i think i will harvest some pollen if its a guy...cant go wrong with genes that refuse to die can you?



prot

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