Where ya been? Organic. White Widow Skunk, Lr2, Widow Cindy.

**dirt clean** · 04-06-2009, 10:55 PM

you guys watch house? WOW, they killed one of them. That suicide prevention shit. Powerful, when I was in the hospital once in Seattle I polled the nurses one day on what medical show they liked best. I expected ERm which is what I watched 2 hours a day of on the depths of my binge. One nurse said "House". So I started watching. When I got out after months and learned how ot walk again I always cracked up at the show. Still do, eating my pills and walking around being a dick. AHhhhhh. Lol.

Anyway, LR2 has shown sex now for a week. I have been feeding tranistion and flower nutes with a top dressing of indo batguano. Sounds like a lot but it is a by weekly basis.

However, the ladies have not really begun to flower. I suspect now that the moleasses I have been usingto help feed the bacteria in the teas has been causing the soil and the plant to become to loaded with N. If this is trued I fret the 3 gallon soil will have to be flushed to really start flower.

I forgot that the moleasses had so much N. Also they got the top dressign of mex bat guano in veg.

Any takers? I have seen similiar grows recently.

The white widow skunk is looking nice. Kinds funny looking plant. Almost miniture looking leaves of a bigger plant but very nice, robust growth. Lots of budsites. Compact. Looks almost the same but a few inchs of growth.

I have decided to experiment with what pinching is on the wido coindy. After I clone. I do worry over any hermie chances.

Light schedule has changed three times. Was 24/0. Then 20/4, no 19/5. I will go to 18/6 soon. I want those damn lr2 to flower. They are huge!

I dont see how in 30-40- days they could finish.

here is the NPK chart I found concerning MJ. It was in High Times 03 issue. The only one I can find. Somebody asked Ed R and he said he could not as the needs change so much. Sub Cool siad to take anything I find with a grain of salt.

VEGETATIVE:
Seedlings 2-1-2
Early Vegetative 4-2-3
Mid-Vegetative 10-5-7

FLOWERING:
Cycle Changeover 7-7-7
Early Flowering 5-10-7
Mid-Flowering 6-15-10
Late Flowering 4-10-7

**dirt clean** · 04-07-2009, 04:07 PM

Pics to come. I got some excellent plant pots and was able to spread them out more.

They have all had a growth spurt and the small plants have caught up to make a more even canopy with the LR2. The ees and wc are all vegging ok under the 18/6 of the hps.

I cant wait to back to 24/0 as soon as they start buuding. They are starting to stink, to get some resin going. Soon, I feed High P friday to kick this up.

**bossman88188** · 04-07-2009, 05:30 PM

looks nice man. i have had knat issues . neem oil swicthed with a pythium every 3 days.
when i doit i mix 5 gal worth and dunk the entire plant to get every inch.
then water them with the neem to get the babies in the soil were they live and breed.
not in flower though i would just stop them from the next harvest.

**dirt clean** · 04-07-2009, 11:49 PM

Welcome aboard Bossman. Good idea with the dunk, it would have escaped my mind. So much of this first timer shit is a mix between science and guess and nail biting over whether or not thinking about them will hurt them. Lol. Thanks.

Hey, here’s to San Diego. Me too. Native. I sent you a pm. Armstrong nursery and Kellogg’s organic for 7 bucks for 3 cubic feet at home depot, lol.

Yeah I got to get pics up again, soon, the ladies are huger now. Way huger dude. Rofl.

**odbsmydog** · 04-08-2009, 01:26 AM

how old is the book you have that says vertical bulbs are better?

**dirt clean** · 04-08-2009, 07:54 PM

That has ya going, huh? Well it shouldnt. Just ask yourself if you like to lst or not. I fig theu approaced it from the point of veiw of someone totally new and that person would not lst. So then vertical bulbs make sense. Either that or get a bulb that can penetrate 4-X feet. Understand me?

The book is not that old. If you have this site I cant see buying anybody but SOMA who has a section on the organic area. He cool. lol. Also anybody else who posts here, yada yada yada. I think a giant book on the science would be nice. The elusive goal of NPK providing that I cant find anywhere. I have my own idea of a quick write I will do on my palm pilot i will do on my way to work.

Anyway. I have seen some killer grows with the plants just arranged around in a circle of the light. On this site.

Like I said unless you mean stadium then it is either a question of lst. If you lst then horizontal. If you dont then vertical. It was "the new school of indoor Marijuan something?" by Jeff Mowta. Dont buy. Unless you want them all.

Anyway, MY LR2 STILL WONT FLOWER. JUST SEX!!!!!!!!!No clue. Just more P to come. Lol. Wish me luck.

**TacocaT** · 04-09-2009, 02:09 PM

Hey so no issues with your eBay tent bring toxic and killing your plants?

**dirt clean** · 04-09-2009, 08:50 PM

Nah, the ebay tent is fine. Those off gassing tents are prob gone. I bought mine from LED WHOLESELLERS. I have 2 in fact. The stiching kinda sucks but I have had no big screw ups because of it.

I beleive the brand and model of the tent that did that are on the net. just google.

**dirt clean** · 04-10-2009, 06:38 PM

well, here it is, april 10th.

I thought I would have a month at most till curing LR2 and be wrapping up an eight week veg of wws and wc. Lol. Not to be. . .

Here it is. LR2 still has yet to flower. On the advice of another forum member I have put one LR2 in a 24 hour dark priod to start flower. This must work. WWs and 3 LR2 and WC will continure on.

I fed today.

LR2- BMO Flower Power and foliar harmony 3-12-9NPK
2.5 ounces for 3 gallons fo water
Cal-mag
3 ounces of Super plant tonic
Lemon, I could not find ph down

WWS and WC- 3 ounces of BMO Grow It Green
3 ounces of Super Plant Tonic
A tbsp of fish omri
Liquid Kelp
Cal mag
Compost
2 tbsp of molasses
Bubbled for 48 hours

LR2 got flower and wws and wc got veg tea.

I got a big prob I noticed with plants. Too much Dolomite I can only guess. One white widow skunk started to look like shit so I checked the run off and it was real basic. I checked with the meter and it was like 8. That is bad. I strive for 6.5.

I added a topdress of sulpher gypsum and poured lemon juice in the veg tea. Later I am gonna add some phd down water and more topdress to get that down.

the growhth at a bad ph is very bad. the error is def noticable. at that high ph x is locked out and it shows like a defciency, only more subtle.

I will def post pics tonight. I want to flush the lr2 and put all in 24 hour dark if at lights on tonight the flowering has not started yet with this latest P infusion.

I also topdress mex and indo batguanos.

**dirt clean** · 04-11-2009, 10:45 AM

ok, ok, ok, oics tonight for sure. i am sick and lazy.

i decided to go back to the basics and found that high ph is indeed playing a factor and that P

Chart of the Effect of Soil pH on Nutrient Availability

is prob locked out of my LR2. So i gonna fix that with some ph down in my water.

WWS got the ph adjusted water and loved it I thought. I guess ph is very high to have N locked out.

My prob was that in organic with dolomite lime and the warnings that dolomite was slow acting that it would no work at all so I added more. Bad idea. And considering for some reason I am always losing my ph down, next grow i will go very easy.