I must say this journal is encouraging. Such an amazing yield from just one plant. I just started my first grow and I could only wish to get what you got

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+rep brotha.

definitely appreciate it.

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So far following your method has been wonderful. I appreciate your logging of this grow and the potential for amazing yields with CFLs. I was sold by this thread alone and I have yet to be let down. Appreciate it man, and if I never get to toke one of my sweet nugs with you, it would have been an honor! Peace!

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Chipp,

I would agree w/ you considering the fact that you had so many peripheral lights to aid in even disbursement throughout. Although, I would 'argue' that you could still do some minor thinning of smaller branches to redirect to the larger branches at the bottom of the plant. I would also speculate, and it is speculation, that it may be personal preference of whether you wanted the weight on the the top main branches or the smaller branches at the bottom of the plant. In other words, I anticipate that the yield would be somewhat comparable, just depends on personal preference of where you wanted the bud. And as you stated previous, since the light was present throughout, YOU may HAVE obtained the better yield by avoiding lollipopping.

I wanted to ask you again: Did you maintain the yeast (CO2 producing) method throughout the remainder of your grow, after you initially started? And if so, do you think that it made a significant difference in the better overall viability of the plant? I know this is a subjective opinion, but I am still curious if this method actually works for a reasonably small space? And how small the space has to be to make a difference if this is the case? I am battling ventilation issues currently, as my 'grow room' is a concrete walled storm shelter, obviously far away from any fresh air. I also live in a very humid climate and I am anticipating mold/mildew problems even though I've been good so far. Any recommendations from your experience/knowledge? I am thinking about investing in a 20 or 50lb CO2 bottle, but not even sure how to setup or monitor it...

What is your opinion on supercropping and have you found a good detailed tutorial on the procedure? I know what to do in general, however I think I may have dorked one of my nice plants. When I was attempting to pinch the main stalk, instead of mashing the inner pulp, I actually split open the plant. I dunno if this is 'okay', or if I screwed myself.

Man, I will tell you that I just invested in a 400W hortilux ace and 430W Horti HPS. I got a good deal on the entire system w/ a Hydrofarm reflector and ballast. Anyway, if you decide to upgrade for any reason, go 600W, or 1000W if possible. I will post some picks and you can give me some input, but I just don't think the 400W is going to get the job done (although doesn't help that I have many plants). I'll have to take a note out of your book and add some CFLs or T12's.

Last, and I know I'm dragging, but what kind of water schedule were you on in that container? I can't recall if you were in a 5 gal or smaller? Thanks for the input.

Later bro.

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Thanks for the response. Let's see...

1. CO2 - I used that CO2 contraption only once or twice. We had a small tube that we poked holes into, and we made a ring around the bottom of the pot so the CO2 was kind of being leaked in constant amount from below the plant. Does it work? Well, I can't really say for sure. The plant was always growing so vigourously that I just couldn't tell if it helped or not. Since I don't have the best ventilation either, I'll say that it did help.

2. Supercropping? To be honest, the only technique I've done is when I topped the plant - just a simple cut. It seemed to work well in terms of height management though. My current grow (2x SLH, 1x Thai super skunk) I had to bend down a SLH, and its really friggin tall. The topping definitely manager the height well. That's about all the experience I have with that.

3. My water schedule was just whenever the pot felt light (the roots were so thick you couldn't really put your finger in to test the dryness). During veg and when the plant was smaller, it was about once every week. In flowering, when she got really big, it was about once every 3-4 days.

I hope that clears things up... Good luck man

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My Journal: 1xSuper Lemon Haze {Soil}{5gal}{CFL}

Chipp,

Wow. Wow. Wow. Just amazing. Thanks for sharing so much information about your grow, it's very helpful and inspirational too.

I've got a CFL first grow going, about 59 days in with a Lowryder#2 and a still-vegging SLH. My friend was supposed to flower the SLH at his place but he had to move, so I'm waiting for the LR2 to finish before switching to 12/12.

After reading your thread, I'm definitely going to get more CFLs. I'm currently using 168w total over the LR2 and 130w over the SLH, with two 23watters underneath.

Sorry if I missed this, but how tall did your SLH get up to? I'm already at around 28" and due to my filter setup I don't have much more headroom.

Also, I'm a little concerned about temps dropping at night during flower-- it'll probably be around 56-60F. What were your temps like?

Anyway, thanks again for the journal and nice job on the monster yield. If I get even half of that I'll be happy-- I really wasn't expecting much on this first attempt so it's all gravy.

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Thanks for the compliments!

In response,

- Good call on getting more CFLs... Your SLH is so big it will definitely appreciate it!

-In terms of height, I honestly don't remember an exact figure (it might be in this thread somewhere). A few inches under 3 feet I think. Since you've already vegged your plant into maturity, I'm guessing it won't get much taller in flowering, but you probably will be strapped for vertical space though. I'd consider some low stress training or supercropping, although I don't have too much experience here so you should look around.

-My night temps were probably around 65F, maybe a bit cooler. The plant was fine! I think you'll be okay with your temps.

Anyways, your plants look great. With enough nutrients and lighting, it looks like you could easily snatch over 3 ounches from that (although, that's on the low side to be safe... hell, I only wanted 2 ounces from my plant!)

Let me know how it goes man.

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Thanks for the feedback Chipp. The CFLs are on order and the LR2 will be chopped soon so the SLH with have more horizontal if not vertical room. Maybe I'll drop sidelights all around it.

I'll look into LST-- I tried to test-bend the main stem but it's pretty stout except near the top. Supercropping is a bit daunting as it seems so radical, but then again I've seen successful grows with that method so I guess it's all about experience.

That's good to hear about the temps-- I was thinking of running some kind of heater but maybe I'll see how it goes. As for nutes, I've got the Fox Farms trio and molasses, but the SLH seems VERY sensitive, I got burned tips after feeding less than 1/4 strength. Maybe the bloom nutes will work better.

3 oz. would be absolutely killer, but I'm with you on keeping expectations in check. No matter how much this yields, I'm just looking forward to sharing some good bud with friends next year. My best friend's birthday is at the end of Jan. so that's the target date for liftoff.

One last question if you don't mind: how was the smell? If it's not that strong maybe I'll change my filter setup and put the fan unit outside the box. Right now I'm using a Panasonic bathroom fan with a carbon tray filter that works great, but I've got a DIY 4" filter that might be able to handle the odor if it's not overwhelming.

Yikes-- sorry this is so long. Thanks again for all the help, it's appreciated. And congrats again on your grow-- those shots of your mason jars lined up and filled with SLH is so classic.

My SLH didn't seem to be too sensitive to over/under feeding. Then again, I used organic nutrients (plus a small amount of chemical supplement, but never that much), and organic nutrients are more forgiving when it comes to dosage.

The smell? Well, I never used any odour filters. I used to run a tiny bit of activated carbon, but it reduced airflow too much for my weak PC case fans, and my temps were the real issue. So, in terms of smell, the one plant was enough to produce a faint smell throughout my small house. It was faint enough that you would forget it was there after 5 minutes, but if you walked in the door and there was no other dominating odour present, there would be a hint of something (and this plant was in my basement). To the friends I didn't tell, they just assumed it was because our house has 4 cannabis users in the place.

Overall, I'd say that with this strain, you won't need to go overkill with the air filtration. Do you need to keep it 100% odourless?

Thanks again for the compliments. I'll toss up a pic of my Thai Super Skunk and my other 2 SLH's sometime later - I have tied down one of the SLH's (pulled down from about 1.5 feet up from the stem base), but this grow is a bit more rushed so the plant didn't bulk out as I'd like.

Seems we both have a way with making our posts too long. Let me know how you make out!

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My Journal: 1xSuper Lemon Haze {Soil}{5gal}{CFL}

Chipp, how goes it man? You have anything going right now? I'm about to go 12/12 tomm and hoping I'll have your yield w/ about 10x the plants! Starting to realize, first hand, how important genetics are... ANyway, I unfortunately haven't had time to keep a journal, but I'll post some picks in a few weeks on your thread if you care to check it out. Hope all is well, bro. Btw, how's the SLH smokin now?

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