The Sidewaze Daze!

mexiblunt · #1 06-15-2007, 06:08 PM

Alright here is the plan! I have 2 clones that I have been vegging for a little over a month, what I want to do with this grow is transplant them into containers that I can have them horizontal. Once horizontal, the plan is to use string and weights to hold the main stem from turning up allowing the branches to grow back vertical.

Here are some of the specs on the grow, I am very willing to hear other ppl's opinions and ideas so feel free to comment on this journal, if it's just a simple question er something I would prefer a private msg, just so this doesn't get too cluttered but whatever let'r buck.

Room - The room is about 8ftx6ft. Will only use about 1/3 the area if that. Will be adding mylar to the 2 walls in the corner I will grow in.

Temp - Right now the room runs at 76-82 lights on, 70-75 off depending on the outside weather as it cools from central air cond.

Venting - The room is constantly being exausted by a small squirl cage fan. This is probably not needed right now as when the a/c runs(every 10-15 mins) it pumps fresh air into the room.

Light - 250 hps with batwing reflector
150 hps with parabolic reflector, The plan is to mount these both to a frame or peice of plywood so they can be turned or moved daily to get even light over the plants as they will take up alot more sq footage on the horizontal plain than they will height wise.

Soil veg- these clones were started by someone else in rockwool cubes and given to me together in a 3 gallon pot with sunshine mix #4. I seperated them and potted them into 2 gallon pots with straight sunshine #4.

flower- still a little unsure but will probably be the same. sunshine #4 but I may add 10-15% compost and a little perlite.

Containers - currently in 2 gallon pots, once I re-pot they will go into 5 gallon pails with a slot cut down the side for the stem to go thru so I can cover the whole root mass with soil.

Nutes - these were vegged using an unknown (i know, shame) advanced nutrient, works well tho.
- For the flower phase I have a floro nova formula from general hydroponics. 1 part bloom 4-8-7. i will use this if needed depending if i mix in compost or not. may be just a light feed here and there. I will also use blackstrap mollasses thru weeks 2-6 give or take. as I have with great results in the past.

Plants - hmmmm. I was not told the strain of this plant, however I was told that it is a 8 week flower time, and grows short and bushy. these pics are current and are about 1 month old from cuttings 7-10 inch clones.

Ne or all of these specs could change at any time depending on YOU! lol.
I will take all advice and comments and do what I can to make this the best I can on a low budget.

one side note. I'm just waiting for these to finnish up here in the next week or so because they are taking up my room and I am gettin a little teird of moving them in and out every 12 hours. They go under the 250 watt hps while the clones are beside them under a lower hanging 150 watt hps also providing side light to the flowering ones.

mexiblunt · #2 06-19-2007, 07:31 PM

Day 1 horizontal!

Here they are on day 1. Found some garbage cans at the local hardware store that were broken---2 bucks, sweetness. Gonna wait till tommoro to see what it does, alot of the tips turned up in the 2nd hour.

Next thing I'm gonna need to learn is how much water/how often. These cans are 9 gallons so it's all new 2 me I'm used to 2 gallon, I'm guessing every 5-7 days or so? If Ne1 has a better idea let er rip?

Side note. choped 1 of the 2, it's not quit as done as I would like but It was really going yellow and the other 1 was ready. The others in the dark till tommoro. These are indoor mix from Dr.greenthumbseeds.

mexiblunt · #3 06-20-2007, 03:49 PM

Day 2. All the tops are coming up nicely.

Side note chopped the other 1 today.

recvryjst42day · #4 06-20-2007, 05:34 PM

Im going to have to follow this, I like the idea! Nice Harvest too man!

mexiblunt · #5 06-20-2007, 05:43 PM

Thanks man! Hopefully everything goes good.

videoman40 · #6 06-20-2007, 07:53 PM

I wish you the best of luck, I dont think you'll need it though.
Peace

fdd2blk · #7 06-20-2007, 07:58 PM

what if you lay the light on the floor under the plant? just wondering

SmokerE · #8 06-20-2007, 08:02 PM

He needs that light fan!

mexiblunt · #9 06-21-2007, 01:00 PM

Thanks Videoman!

FDD. hmmmm light on the floor? Are you messin with me? lol. I thought plants didn't use the light from under the leaves?. I'm thinking the plant would still grow agianst gravity but the leaves would turn themselves upsidedown? Ne ideas bout that?
Right now I have the 250 watt hps 1 foot above the plants, seems to cover the area well, the 150 hps is the same height but near original tops of the plants, as I have a bunch of seedlings, clones under it untill I switch to 12/12.

SmokerE. A cool tube would be the bomb. but I'm happy with my room temp it's been averaging 74-76. Today a new xbox 360 has priority lol.

clekstro · #10 06-21-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mexiblunt

Thanks Videoman!

FDD. hmmmm light on the floor? Are you messin with me? lol. I thought plants didn't use the light from under the leaves?. I'm thinking the plant would still grow agianst gravity but the leaves would turn themselves upsidedown? Ne ideas bout that?
Right now I have the 250 watt hps 1 foot above the plants, seems to cover the area well, the 150 hps is the same height but near original tops of the plants, as I have a bunch of seedlings, clones under it untill I switch to 12/12.

SmokerE. A cool tube would be the bomb. but I'm happy with my room temp it's been averaging 74-76. Today a new xbox 360 has priority lol.

The plants wouldn't absorb the light from the bottom side of the leaves, but the principle would be the same as the current light setup, wouldn't it? You're still not illuminating the other half of the plant (call it side #2 if you had split it down the center while growing normally, straight up) except for what reflects off the floor, though that is probably negligible. It seems that floor lighting would be less practical for the heat/space issues. You have a lot more room up top in the room that at the floor, and you may even get lucky and have the branches currently facing down start to grow towards the top light. Not many people seem to keen on LED's on this forum (i know, they're impractical and not efficient blah, blah, blah) but it seems that for "floor" lighting, if you could find either a cheap array or build one yourself, this would alleviate any concerns that would come from placing a HPS lamp there. Really cool idea! Will follow your progress...
good luck