these were taken outside this morning. they are turning towards the sun. i was just thinking that with the light below the plant would grow downward which in turn would make it even bushier. mylar on the floor if anything. if i had the option i would try it myself. no joke.

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The leaves would turn and the plant would grow downwards with all of its might. I broke one of my ladies in half during an LST project I was trying. I threw it in the corner and left it. The next day the fan leaves around the top cola(facing down) bent 180 degrees and faced the light. Absolutley amazing what the will to live does to a plant.

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i think it would look way cool. and does the plant feel gravity? is there a natural gene in the plant that tells it which way is up or does it ONLY grow towards light? would the low lighting be fighting against the upward pull of gravity?

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I think it would look way cool. and does the plant feel gravity? is there a natural gene in the plant that tells it which way is up or does it ONLY grow towards light? would the low lighting be fighting against the upward pull of gravity?


I'm not sure. FDD your plants are turning mad towards the sun!! Not sure who It was but I read a tread about this octagon type grow structure with all the lights in the center, kinda like a stadium grow I guess? I was pretty sure they said that a plant will grow primarily up agianst gravity? But that kinda goes agianst the hydro wheel type thing where the plants go around the light in a cycle. You would think in that thing when the plant is on the top it would 180 itself?

Now I'm gettin all kinds of crazy ideas, Ill have to do some more reading eeesh never ends I love it!!!!!!! And that would look way cool.

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Well haven't done ne usefull reading yet. In grade school we grew a potato plant and then turned it upsidedown and it grew back around and went up. Now was that due to light or gravity I can't remember? Not a proper control for this idea ne how.

What would happen if a horozontal plant like these would get even light from top and bottom? If gravity is out of equation, would it randomly pic which leaves turn up or down ,or just by proximity?

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SideWazeDaze!!!!!

you just stepped outside the box. i love it!!

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i thought that the plants use blue light to orient themselves to the light source, that they would grow naturally in the direction of blue light. That said, from what I have read there is definitely! a gene (?) in the plant responsible for "reporting" the gravitational situation. But I have no idea what that would have on growth. There's always that ad which someone referred to in High Times of this huge growing apparatus with the cycling cylinders of hydro, and those plants grow like wild, spending, however, not all of their time upside down. I think that a light underneath the plant would simply give the "neglected" side of the plant more light and give you fuller growth. As long as it wasn't the stronger of the two light sources, which the plant will surely sense (like I said, with blue light), the only thing growing down on the whole will be your roots. A quick search on google confirms what i read before: weeds, (and i assume other plants along with them) use the gene called "EIR1" to grow roots in the direction of gravity, establishing the root mass to support the plant's growth upwards. But hey! will see what effects actually happen with your grow. peace

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Well, does it randomly "pick" which leaves naturally grow upwards towards the light? I think that there is enough evidence already to say that the plant doesn't work randomly, and that its growth is based on and actually reflects the environment, no matter what grow factor you're talking about: light, air, co2, water, nutes, etc...

The plant will grow towards the light and use light as beneficially as it can. That means that your bottom leaves that were once facing the floor will turn and grow toward the ceiling as long as that light penetrates the canopy well enough (perhaps a limited amount of light is necessary to trigger this move by the plant, as could be expected). It seems to me that this is why someone with supplemental lighting on the sides doesn't really run the risk of having different branches growing toward the side lights like some light addicted bitch looking for her fix. The overall plant information will detect which direction to promote new growth in (toward stronger blue light source), but supplementals, in my view, should keep the leaves themselves facing the direction of their own strongest light source. That seems to be the most efficient use of light that millions of years of evolution could offer!

And shit, I just read your question again. And your question is about this very new growth... yikes... I suppose if both light sources were the same that the plant, sensing gravity and thrusting its roots naturally in that direction, that this would promote growth against gravity, but definitely, in my view, to the light with more blue light. But then, if they're both equal, maybe it the plant would consider it a waste of resources to try and grow against gravity and let itself "fall" towards the light. But the plant would sense stress and would hold itself up against gravity (as in your current setup), but hey, your light source gives it one hell of an incentive. I suppose someone would just have to try it. From everything I've read there's no clear answer...
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And sorry, will have to find sources so it doesn't look like i'm pulling this stuff out of my ass...

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hella funny. you were so close. you almost had it. then the "buts" came in. i love it. :mrgr een: we have to try this. someone? anyone? i don't have the proper lighting or i would.

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me neither. I've just got a 400W HPS and am planning on an LED array when I can find a setup worth investing in, but that wouldn't compare at all to HID as far as intensity is concerned until they start putting out luxeons to match the peaks of chlorophyll absorption. happy to entertain...

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