Mandala Seeds Kalichakra and Satori

babygro · #1 05-14-2007, 09:27 AM

Mandala Seeds Kalichakra and Satori

Just about to start my next grow and thought I'd share this one with Rollitup.

My last grow, some Sensi Star clones, which I've just jarred up went fairly smoothly mainly because I built on the experience from my previous grow of a Sensi Star from seed. I had an annoying Magnesium deficiency plague that grow mostly due to my hard tap water not working particularly well with Biobizz's Allmix soil. I still used Allmix for the clones but added a little dolomite lime that helped to buffer the soil ph and add some Mg in at the same time. I also foliar fed and root fed fairly regular doseages of epsom salts through the clone grow to help keep that Mg def problem in check. If anything I slightly overfed them despite using well below recommended doseages of nutrients.

I'm not using Allmix for this grow as I still don't think it's worth the high price and I've heard of others suffering from similar Mg deficiency problems and the solution for those problems makes Allmix not worth paying for or bothering with if there are equally bad or better alternatives at a 1/4 of the price available locally. I still think that Allmix 'could' be a good soil for other people in different water areas growing not quite so nutrient fickle a plant as Sensi Star.

So this grow I'm switching from Allmix to one of the Westland Multi-Purpose composts with added dolomite lime and probably calcified seaweed and some rockdust if I can get hold of some at a reasonable price. The next grow after this one I'd like to experiment with some of my own home made compost mixtures but at the moment don't feel experienced enough to do so and also because I'm curious to see what was causing the Mg problem - my tap water or the Allmix soil. If I get the same kind of problems with this next grow, I may invest in a small RO water purifier to help take out some of the hard water dissolved solids.

I'm using up the last of the Allmix mixed up with some standard John Innes no2 at a ratio of 40:40 with 10% Perlite and 10% Vermiculite to get the new seeds germinated and under way in 1L pots. I used a slightly different germination method this time, last time I soaked for 24 hours in tepid water then used the tissue and tupperware container method to produce a taproot which I then transferred into pots. Last time I got 100% germination and 100% survival rate using this method. This time I decided to germinate the seeds in the soil rather than germinating first then planting.

So far 4/4 Kalichakra have surfaced and 3/4 Satori, with one Satori being a little reluctant to come out and play. In the photo's the Kalichakra are all on the back row and all the Satori on the front row. They're about 4 or 5 days from breaking the soil surface in these pictures.

babygro · #2 05-14-2007, 09:30 AM

A few more pictures..

babygro · #3 05-14-2007, 09:41 AM

Finally the fourth Satori popped the soil surface on the 13th.

The other plants are now about 7 days from popping and are just starting their second set of true leaves.

A few more pics showing the fourth Satori...

nongreenthumb · #4 05-14-2007, 10:35 AM

Did you know that if you cut all the leaves off and the top now, like 20 will totally grow back in its place dude.

I saw this page earlier and went to something else, then i couldnt find it again so i searched under threads started by you, this has got to be a first. It is a first

nongreenthumb · #5 05-14-2007, 10:53 AM

Nice strains tho, i've got a few kerala krush seedlings going at the moment, its got similar sativa effects, maybe have to do a lil swap of some sort

babygro · #6 05-14-2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nongreenthumb

I saw this page earlier and went to something else, then i couldnt find it again so i searched under threads started by you, this has got to be a first. It is a first

Heya NGT, thanks for stopping by dude. It's a first for me to put up a grow diary on Rollitup, for sure, thought it was about time I did one though.

I'm really looking forward to growing out these genetics, they're a lot closer to landrace than most of the current dutch genetics and I want to experiment with the use of some HPS and MH lights in flowering this time, probably HPS for the first 4 weeks of flowering and MH for the final 4 weeks or so.

skunkushybrid · #7 05-14-2007, 02:21 PM

I've never heard of these strains before can't wait to find out more about them.

babygro · #8 05-15-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by skunkushybrid

I've never heard of these strains before can't wait to find out more about them.

Heya Skunky, thanks for dropping in.

I'm trying to move away from the 'sanitised' over-bred Dutch genetics that all have far too much Indica bred into them to stabilise and bulk up their yield for growing under artificial lights. Kalichakra and Satori are bred by Mike from Mandala seeds who grows them all outdoors in spain and sources his genetics from landrace varieties.

Kalichakra has genetics from South India, SE Asia - it's a cross between Sativas from Kerala in South India, a Sativa Thai from Asia and I also believe it has some Columbian and Mexican in it as well as the obligatory touch of Indica for yield. Satori is based on several Sativa strains from Nepal as well as a touch of Indica.

Here's the breeder descriptions of them -

Satori

Type: sativa-indica
Contains land race genetics from: Nepal
Cultivation: indoor/outdoor
Flowering time: 65-70 days/October
Yield: 550-600 gr/m2 (dry weight)
High: a clear, cerebral high and strong potency sets in quickly; it supports concentration & creativity; very inspiring and stimulating. Ideal for writers, artists, musicians, or other creative people.
Aroma: fruity-citrus, pungent.
Medical Use: Satori shows her therapeutic potential in relieving depression and anxiety; this strain can ease sleep disorders from auto-immune diseases and Restless Legs Syndrome (RLS).

This season we are introducing our new Satori. We have refined this strain genetically to produce an even more reliable and powerful cross that will delight your connoisseur heart. Satori is an exceptionally easy to grow sativa. She has shown impressive hardiness against spider mites and other pests, and she possesses a good measure of mold resistance. her slim appearance makes it possible to plant in narrow rows, or in SOG, to maximize her typical record yields even more. The firm side shoots provide highest quality cuttings. As with all our sativas she is heat resistant - an added bonus for small indoor environments and hot summer grows. The mainly sweet & fruity-spicy aroma is a real treat for the senses. Satori grows a long head bud with chunky flowers and does not require much feeding on soil; you can almost do without feeding provided you use quality soil and sufficient pot size (approx. 2 gallon pots for adult plants under 250-600W lamps). Keep EC levels low in hydroponics for best results. All Mandala strains are extremely efficient in nutrient uptake due to their hybrid vigor and require only low EC levels/feeding to develop huge leaf, stem and bud structure. Satori is a high yielding, powerful plant with an exceptional sativa high. The heavy buds are easy to manicure, and from the resinous bud leaves you can produce finest grade hash, comparable in quality to the famous Nepalese “temple balls”.

Kalichakra

Type: sativa-indica
Contains land race genetics from: South India / S.E.Asia
Cultivation: indoor/outdoor
Light: 400 W/m2
Flowering time: 63-68 days/October
Yield: 500-550 gr/m2 (dry weight)
High: a potent, sativa high with an energizing body effect; sensual and stimulating. Good for active recreation, but heavy indulgance can lead to a temporary state of being blissed-out; excellent potency despite long-term regular use.
Aroma (dry): fruity-floral; earthy; incense
Medical Use: Kalichakra shows her therapeutic potential in pain relief and helping against depression.

Kalichakra is named after the Indian goddess Kali (a consort of the ganja smoking Lord Shiva) to symbolize the power of this hardy, potent, high-yielding sativa. Unlike typical sativas she develops extremely well indoor with vigorous growth and sturdy stems. This hybrid vigor, and the unique land race traits, make her surprisingly adaptable and easy to grow, and a good choice for novice gardeners. mother plants provide clones easily and quickly. The cuttings can be placed into flowering early for cultivating shorter plants in trays, grow boxes, etc., or to shorten flowering time. We recommend this strain for SOG as well. In hydroponics rapid growth can be expected. She responds well to being tied down and grows an impressively large main cola from the even light distribution. The high calyx-to-leaf ratio and frosty coating of trichomes contribute to the exceptional quality of the ripe flowers. The plants possess on average a good mold and pest resistance thanks to our dedicated breeding goals in minimizing undesirable genetic traits. Up to the 45° latitude Kalichakra delivers bumper yields outdoor and is one of the best strains available for hot/southern climates. In northern climates she has also performed well but results depend on plant care, local weather, and phenotype.

I won't post pics as they're not mine to post, but you can see pics of the strains on the mandalaseeds.com website.

nongreenthumb · #9 05-15-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by babygro

Heya Skunky, thanks for dropping in.

I'm trying to move away from the 'sanitised' over-bred Dutch genetics that all have far too much Indica bred into them to stabilise and bulk up their yield for growing under artificial lights. Kalichakra and Satori are bred by Mike from Mandala seeds who grows them all outdoors in spain and sources his genetics from landrace varieties.

Kalichakra has genetics from South India, SE Asia - it's a cross between Sativas from Kerala in South India, a Sativa Thai from Asia and I also believe it has some Columbian and Mexican in it as well as the obligatory touch of Indica for yield. Satori is based on several Sativa strains from Nepal as well as a touch of Indica.

Sounds like you would also like seeds from the flying dutchman seedbank, the guy behind the flying dutchman is a purist and likes to prevent strains from being over crossed most of his are eithe pure sativa or sativa dominant.

The FlyingDutchmen

He also believes that seedbanks such as sensi and dutch passion charge too much for their strains and that a strain should not be above a certain cost, i cant remember what that figure now.

Goto seeds, order seeds, i have some kerala krush in veg at the moment.

skunkushybrid · #10 05-15-2007, 12:02 PM

Anything about height babygro, is this a consideration?

My grapefruit mother is really short, all her clones have never reached above 5ft... shame to see her go really.

Anyway, looking forward to some pic's.