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Old 11-30-2008, 08:53 PM
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Default First Grow; LED (Veg) CFL (Flower) Auto AK47
Hey all,

I have been reading this forum for a while now, and like many others, I've decided to delve deeper and set-up a grow myself. I will only grow one plant at a time and will opt for Lowlife's Automatic AK47 hybrid (10 seeds).

As this grow must be at least semi-stealth I gutted an old Powermac G4 which measures:43 cm (H), 22 cm (W), 46 cm (D). Although this seems small I intend to LST the plant to ensure maximum use of space, possibly installing some form of SCROG later if needed. Once all of the internal components were removed I lined the walls with bubblewrap and then Mylar to create the reflective surface. Currently the Mylar is held in place with staples and tape, when I have the time I will fit it more appropriately - for vegging it will suffice.

Next I placed the seedling, which was germinated using the paper towell method, in a starter cube and then put the cube under a temporary LED vegging lamp inside the case. At present the case is, for the most part, lightproof but I will perfect it as the grow continues.

To ensure a constant airflow and, hopefully, reduce odour a 100mm computer fan has been fitted to some Alumminium Ducting, which leads to an external Carbon Filter. I had originally intended the filter to be internal however made an error when placing the order. At the moment the intake is passive and the exhaust is controlled by the fan but when I have the time and odour control becomes neccessary I will add an intake fan as well. I am also considering some sort of valve to prevent airflow/odour passing the wrong way. The 100mm exhaust is powered by a 12v DC Adapter taken, and modified, from another household appliance.

The lamp and Fan cables are managed using a cheap cable tidy. When the plant matures I will be adding as many energy saving CFL bulbs as possible. All cables will be managed this way. At present I have three 9 watt (400 Lumen) bulbs, though they are not set-up.

I intend to transplant the plant twice as it grows to ensure maximum use of root space, I will also make any modifications neccesary at these times.

Pictures will follow and I intend to document this grow as well as possible.

Any input appreciated, I have probably forgotten to mention a lot

Take it easy and enjoy.

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Old 11-30-2008, 09:04 PM
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Exclamation First Pictures...
Here are the first of the pictures, I apologize for the quality of the images my current digital camera is not great. I will try and sort something else out for the next update.
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It seems the seedling is doing well I can see the first leaves, though very small) I keep peeking at it every now and then to monitor its growth. So cool. Will add more pics later. Gonna use a different camera.

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I currently have (not set-up) the 3 x 9 watt Energy Efficient CFL bulbs that are 400 lums each. They were very cheap and an impulse buy. They will at least keep the plant in veg for the moment once set-up, as it is just a sprout. Due to limited space the energy efficient bulbs can be placed closer to the plants to prevent stretching. Currently the LED light is just mm away from the sprout...its looking really healthy and green It is under 24/0 light schedule at the moment to maximise the LED usefulness.

Thanks to HomeGrwn on a another thread two 27 watt daylight CFL lights sounds like my best bet so i'll look into it. I live in the UK and haven't found a sufficient wattage bulb yet. It is a small space however, so the current bulbs will suffice for now.

The 'temporary' 400 Lum CFL are 2700k. I got that right at least

As far as the growing environment is concerned it has Mylar lined walls and the humidity and temperature haven't been measured yet as I have just started my grow, and need to buy a few things
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how many watts or many bulbs is the led? i've always been curious to use leds.

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Default Day 3 Update:
Got some new pics of the the sprout, the LED light and the carbon filter.
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Default List 1
I have decided to list the products/materials I have used and where they were purchased.

Diamond Grow Reflective Sheeting:

http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/...cat=331&cat=20
5m of Standard 100mm Aluminium Ducting:


http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/details.asp?productid=113&subcat=110&cat=20

100mm Jubilee Clip:

http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/...cat=110&cat=20


Budget (4 inch) 100mm Carbon Filter:


http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/...cat=300&cat=20
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Hey and thanks HydroBandits.

I did some research on this site and other similar forums and found that LED lights are good for Veg but not yet as good for flowering as others.

It is an 8-10w 90MIX Medium Mixed Colour 90 LED Grow Light Bulb from:

http://www.growforfree.co.uk/epages/...Products/90MIX

It emits light in the PURE BLUE 460-465nm region and the DEEP RED 650-660nm region, and will be used throughout the grow as a supplement after the CFL lights are installed. It uses a standard 27mm Edison screw fitting which means it works in a broad range of cheap lamps.

The LED's are built into the bulb body which is reflective and angles the beam downward to create a spotlight.

Apparently it should last for well over 50,000 hours which is always good to know.
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Default List 1...continued
Forgot to mention that I also purchased 8 x 75mm Cultilene Rockwool cubes.
The sprout is in one at the moment. When it is ready the cube will be placed in a larger pot and buried in soil up to the first leaves, again to maximise space in the case and also root growth.

http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/details.asp?productid=536&subcat=289&cat=198
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First off, good luck with the grow. I am also looking to try the AK-47 auto, but the feminized pack of 5. I was wondering since you got the 10 pack and only growing 1 at a time how feasible it will be as your one and only could be a male. Would hate to see you waste(maybe not waste since experience is valuable) two weeks if that turns out to be the case. Either way i will be keeping up with this thread to see how this great breed does. Great job on the case and love that LED.
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