waterCooled
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Master Kush grow. 150w hps, 1 mini fridge, 1 seed. Hydro - DWC - SCROG.
hello peoples,
ive been lurking in these forums for quite a while and I decided I learned so much in the last year that I should really share what all you peoples taught me.
This is my very first grow. I grabbed an old mini fridge, gutted the freezer/ doorrack, built in a 150w hps, a 5 gallon bucket for hydro, and get this, a SCROG screen. not to mention the ventilation (don't use a fridge without cutting holes to vent the heat - I've got a 150hps in mine and the temps are about 75-80 F)
I'm super stoked with my results so far. I've just passed the 3 week flowering mark, and the buds are really showin! This is obviously a personal grow - i keep the mini fridge far away from traffic, and it's really easy to hide if needed. The only thing I was really worried about was odor, but I solved that quickly by following one of the DIY carbon scrubber guides found around here - no smell at all (so far... week 3 flower). For my grow i needed to make sure it took up very very little space, and that I could get rid of everything in 24 if needed (security purposes).
so without further adoo, here are the pics! lets start from the beginning -
9 days old from seed
ordered some seeds (master kush) and planted 7 of them. 5 sprouted - only 3 of them grew quickly. Here is one of them. For my veg cycle I'm using 18/6.
3 weeks from seed (stunted growth)
problems early on:
i didnt have any nutes to feed the plant... the new growth was pretty much turning white (looked worse a few days after this pic). I finally got some Advanced Nutrients 3-part. I would highly recommend this stuff, the plants love it. I think it's the same thing as GH's 3 part formula, so either one of those nutes are great.
so out os the 3 plants one stopped growing, 1 grew but was damaged, and one looked fine. I ended up tossing the stunted one, the badly damaged one ended up being male, and the one that looked good turned out female. I'll also note these plants grew from seed under CFLs. I've read that these plants have a higher chance of being female with a blue spectrum light such as a CFL or MH light. I saved the hps for flowering - the orange spectrum is great for floweing plants.. Here is a pic a couple days after adding proper nutes, the green came back to most areas of the plant.
5 weeks from seed
speaking of flowers, check out these preflowers after a couple more weeks of veg under the cfl (5 weeks total now)! I wasn't positive at the time, but it was certainly looking female. the other plant recovered fine but didn't show any signs of prefloweing yet, it was however growing much tighter nodes (short and bushy). The plant showing preflower was a bit taller. These tall traits generally point towards males, but it was the total opposite for me. The short one ended up being male. The one pictured below is the female.
wooooooo! we have liftoff. see that white hair shooting out of the preflower? that means its female all the way. The plant have now been under a 150w hps and growth has exploded. AND the preflowers showed their pistons. Needless to say i was pretty gratified knowing i would actually be flowering one of the two plants I had left. all this work wasn't for nothing - there is no starting over now. I was a little worried that they'd both be male. I got one female and I'm happy!!! it just means i'll have to veg it longer so it can fill up the space.
Here are the two plants chillin in the mini fridge. I'm using a 5gal rubbermaid bucket for hydro. I've got an air pump going into the bucket because the roots need oxygen! As you can see I've also built the frame of my scrog screen, I'm just making sure it fits before adding the screen. The 5gal bucket fits right up to the shelf in the back of the fridge, the screen overhangs the bucket and over the shelf to get the most area this thing has to offer. There are two plants in there at the moment, but will soon just be 1.
here is the most the other plant developed - it was very slow to show signs of sex, but it was looking male. The preflower looks like a ball on a stick. if it were female, there wouldnt be that little stem before the ball. Though it would have been better to wait it out just a little longer just to be sure this was male, I had decided to let the guaranteed female take up the whole space for vegging. OUT COMES THE MALE.
here is the scrog screen just about finished. I'm keeping it 4 inches above the bucket because I need as much height to flower as possible. The fridge is only 33 inches in height minus the space for the bucket, light, and fridge interior, you're only really left with maybe 12" of growing space. So i'm keeping this plant short! training the plant on the screen will make it crawl out horizontally. the screen is about 15"x18" (or around there, whatever fit wall to wall).
the last plant - after a few days training under the screen in veg mode.
how to scrog
as you can see the branches rise above the screen towards the light. To use the screen efficiently, you want to pull them back down and lay them across the screen so they grow outward. I'm trying to keep this plant under 4 inches! pics below show before training and after training. at this point I decide it's time to switch over to 12/12 lighting to induce flowering. The screen will fill up during the first 2-3 weeks during it's stretch phase under 12/12. The plant will double in growth! The plant has vegged for about 6-7 weeks at this point.
4 days in 12/12
wow my screen is almost full! I train them under the screen more and more. before and after the training
2 weeks flower
FAST FORWARD! 2 weeks into flowering. The plant has filled the screen and is starting to top out. this is the last time i train the plant under the screen. before and after training below. also a pic showing that the plant is only as tall as a lighter! Remember this is just one plant.
now
so here we are, 3 weeks into flowering now - going on week 4. The 150w hps seems to be doing well. I lowered the plants just a little bit after this pic was taken, they were starting to get a little hot.
I'll sum up the details again:
150w hps mini fridge with 5 gallon bucket DWC and a 15x17 inch screeen. 100CFM fan exaust with DIY carbon scrubber on the end, 4" open intake towards the bottom. 1 master kush plant (grown from seed). 3 weeks into flower now.
and here is a look under the screen. the plant has been doing some serious scrogin'! lots of branches formed from the training in the past few weeks.
here's another pic of week 3 - this time in regular lighting. plant is green!
So that is where I'm at right now. I'd love to hear comments/suggestions. I'll keep ya updated with pics every week (week 4 coming up soon!). im getting excited for the next couple weeks. stay tuned.
hello peoples,
ive been lurking in these forums for quite a while and I decided I learned so much in the last year that I should really share what all you peoples taught me.
This is my very first grow. I grabbed an old mini fridge, gutted the freezer/ doorrack, built in a 150w hps, a 5 gallon bucket for hydro, and get this, a SCROG screen. not to mention the ventilation (don't use a fridge without cutting holes to vent the heat - I've got a 150hps in mine and the temps are about 75-80 F)
I'm super stoked with my results so far. I've just passed the 3 week flowering mark, and the buds are really showin! This is obviously a personal grow - i keep the mini fridge far away from traffic, and it's really easy to hide if needed. The only thing I was really worried about was odor, but I solved that quickly by following one of the DIY carbon scrubber guides found around here - no smell at all (so far... week 3 flower). For my grow i needed to make sure it took up very very little space, and that I could get rid of everything in 24 if needed (security purposes).
so without further adoo, here are the pics! lets start from the beginning -
9 days old from seed
ordered some seeds (master kush) and planted 7 of them. 5 sprouted - only 3 of them grew quickly. Here is one of them. For my veg cycle I'm using 18/6.
3 weeks from seed (stunted growth)
problems early on:
i didnt have any nutes to feed the plant... the new growth was pretty much turning white (looked worse a few days after this pic). I finally got some Advanced Nutrients 3-part. I would highly recommend this stuff, the plants love it. I think it's the same thing as GH's 3 part formula, so either one of those nutes are great.
so out os the 3 plants one stopped growing, 1 grew but was damaged, and one looked fine. I ended up tossing the stunted one, the badly damaged one ended up being male, and the one that looked good turned out female. I'll also note these plants grew from seed under CFLs. I've read that these plants have a higher chance of being female with a blue spectrum light such as a CFL or MH light. I saved the hps for flowering - the orange spectrum is great for floweing plants.. Here is a pic a couple days after adding proper nutes, the green came back to most areas of the plant.
5 weeks from seed
speaking of flowers, check out these preflowers after a couple more weeks of veg under the cfl (5 weeks total now)! I wasn't positive at the time, but it was certainly looking female. the other plant recovered fine but didn't show any signs of prefloweing yet, it was however growing much tighter nodes (short and bushy). The plant showing preflower was a bit taller. These tall traits generally point towards males, but it was the total opposite for me. The short one ended up being male. The one pictured below is the female.
wooooooo! we have liftoff. see that white hair shooting out of the preflower? that means its female all the way. The plant have now been under a 150w hps and growth has exploded. AND the preflowers showed their pistons. Needless to say i was pretty gratified knowing i would actually be flowering one of the two plants I had left. all this work wasn't for nothing - there is no starting over now. I was a little worried that they'd both be male. I got one female and I'm happy!!! it just means i'll have to veg it longer so it can fill up the space.
Here are the two plants chillin in the mini fridge. I'm using a 5gal rubbermaid bucket for hydro. I've got an air pump going into the bucket because the roots need oxygen! As you can see I've also built the frame of my scrog screen, I'm just making sure it fits before adding the screen. The 5gal bucket fits right up to the shelf in the back of the fridge, the screen overhangs the bucket and over the shelf to get the most area this thing has to offer. There are two plants in there at the moment, but will soon just be 1.
here is the most the other plant developed - it was very slow to show signs of sex, but it was looking male. The preflower looks like a ball on a stick. if it were female, there wouldnt be that little stem before the ball. Though it would have been better to wait it out just a little longer just to be sure this was male, I had decided to let the guaranteed female take up the whole space for vegging. OUT COMES THE MALE.
here is the scrog screen just about finished. I'm keeping it 4 inches above the bucket because I need as much height to flower as possible. The fridge is only 33 inches in height minus the space for the bucket, light, and fridge interior, you're only really left with maybe 12" of growing space. So i'm keeping this plant short! training the plant on the screen will make it crawl out horizontally. the screen is about 15"x18" (or around there, whatever fit wall to wall).
the last plant - after a few days training under the screen in veg mode.
how to scrog
as you can see the branches rise above the screen towards the light. To use the screen efficiently, you want to pull them back down and lay them across the screen so they grow outward. I'm trying to keep this plant under 4 inches! pics below show before training and after training. at this point I decide it's time to switch over to 12/12 lighting to induce flowering. The screen will fill up during the first 2-3 weeks during it's stretch phase under 12/12. The plant will double in growth! The plant has vegged for about 6-7 weeks at this point.
4 days in 12/12
wow my screen is almost full! I train them under the screen more and more. before and after the training
2 weeks flower
FAST FORWARD! 2 weeks into flowering. The plant has filled the screen and is starting to top out. this is the last time i train the plant under the screen. before and after training below. also a pic showing that the plant is only as tall as a lighter! Remember this is just one plant.
now
so here we are, 3 weeks into flowering now - going on week 4. The 150w hps seems to be doing well. I lowered the plants just a little bit after this pic was taken, they were starting to get a little hot.
I'll sum up the details again:
150w hps mini fridge with 5 gallon bucket DWC and a 15x17 inch screeen. 100CFM fan exaust with DIY carbon scrubber on the end, 4" open intake towards the bottom. 1 master kush plant (grown from seed). 3 weeks into flower now.
and here is a look under the screen. the plant has been doing some serious scrogin'! lots of branches formed from the training in the past few weeks.
here's another pic of week 3 - this time in regular lighting. plant is green!
So that is where I'm at right now. I'd love to hear comments/suggestions. I'll keep ya updated with pics every week (week 4 coming up soon!). im getting excited for the next couple weeks. stay tuned.
your leaf tips got light burn?that shit happened to mine . i also have a 150w. thats a tight setup though for sure. got any pics of the whole fridge ? setup and all closed? just want to see how big it all is.this is my reaction when i saw that scrog,,,
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