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Old 01-18-2009, 09:57 PM
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omg did you really reply to this thread with two different accounts.....

And in the beginning of this thread was the first time I have ever worked with skywalker so I expected it to yield more than the Og....it ended up not, so this is what I am saying now.
Not to mention your mixing up hybrids with phenotypes, they are two seperate things.

You got one part right "A phenotype is a plant variation in a particular strain which affects things like yield, appearance, trichome production etc" but these changes are caused by the environment the plant is grown in.

A phenotype is the same strain but its characteristics change (of the plant and how it grows, as well as the final product) based on the grow environment. Over the years after so many people have grown Og in shitty environments, cloned them, and resold them, there are a LOT of shitty Og phenotypes out there. There is no way that the Og around today is the exact same pheno as the one back in the day, its simply impossible because the strain would have had to have been grown in the same environment this entire time. Everyones grow room is different creating a different environment creating different phenos. What the fuck are you even replying to these posts over and over again for other than to be a dick and make it look like your "serving me" or some shit, your just looking like an asshole acting like I'm amatuer when you barely have 50 posts and havn't really said much of anything to prove that you know anything. To me it looks like you got something to proove, besides the only reason I responded to your original post is because I thought it was funny that you said "Dutch passion sells skywalker" because Growtech already knows that....and you can type skywalker strain into google and the only thing that comes up is Dutch Passion because its their strain. Plus I doubt that Growtech needs your help, nor would he want it from someone who goes around calling people "fkn amatuers" when theres no proof that you aren't just one yourself.

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Old 01-18-2009, 10:04 PM
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Bro were just running around in circles now-You dont know the meaning of the word phenotype bro-its cool-you are just misinformed.Go ask any one of your grow mentors that you trust-Your just embarassing yourself dude-Im over getting into a heated discussion about it on a forum of all places
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:09 PM
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Bro were just running around in circles now-You dont know the meaning of the word phenotype bro-its cool-you are just misinformed.Go ask any one of your grow mentors that you trust-Your just embarassing yourself dude-Im over getting into a heated discussion about it on a forum of all places
QUOTE FROM WIKIPEDIA. I'm done.

A phenotype is any observable characteristic or trait of an organism: such as its morphology, development, biochemical or physiological properties, or behavior. Phenotypes result from the expression of an organism's genes as well as the influence of environmental factors and possible interactions between the two.
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:14 PM
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nice wiki definition-how does that relate to your claim that OG has changed over the years because of how it was grown?Genetics dont change because somebody grows the plant a certain way-the only thing that happens is that particular plant gets f-d up.OG came from one plant, and to this day there is only one phenotype.
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:22 PM
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for example, certain plants will genetically be pre-determined to have more sativa or indica characteristics. The definition you posted is very broad- The one i just described relates to cannabis.
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:27 PM
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Btw-just read the full description of your wiki definition-When they say environmental influences, theyre talking about physical phenotypes, like the patterns on the clams they have posted lol-The cannabis phenotype is a biological phenotype-Its hereditary.(ie, some dude growing OG in a 95 degree closet isnt going to create a new phenotype, forever ruining the unique genes of OG kush.
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:20 PM
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Btw-just read the full description of your wiki definition-When they say environmental influences, theyre talking about physical phenotypes, like the patterns on the clams they have posted lol-The cannabis phenotype is a biological phenotype-Its hereditary.(ie, some dude growing OG in a 95 degree closet isnt going to create a new phenotype, forever ruining the unique genes of OG kush.
What do you think I'm talking about....weed isn't physical?
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What do you think I'm talking about....weed isn't physical?
And I didn't say that the genetics get fucked up, I said the phenotype changes, an that is true. NO shit the genetics never change, the Og that was here 30 years ago is that same OG to date no doubt, but there are hundreds of variations now because of all the different environments that it has been subjegated to.
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so just so i understand you correctly-a guy grows a plant in poor environmental conditions, clones it, sells it to the club, somebody buys it, grows it out and it doesnt do too well-his yield is affected, the plant looks like shit etc.your saying this is a new phenotype?
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And I didn't say that the genetics get fucked up, I said the phenotype changes, an that is true. NO shit the genetics never change, the Og that was here 30 years ago is that same OG to date no doubt, but there are hundreds of variations now because of all the different environments that it has been subjegated to.
I'm not talking about biological phenotypes, I'm talking about physical phenotypes.
 

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