Thought I should give the values and stats for everything going on with the cloners right now. Current time is 11:45am.

They both have 25gl resevoirs but I only fill them to about 20 gallons to make calculations easier, also because I don't want the water spilling out of the buckets for any reason. I change the water for all systems once a week. I fill them to 20 gallons and I let the water sit around for 8-10 hours so that the chlorine can evaporate. Since the rooting hormone I'm using, along with my nutrient line, is 90% organic I don't want the chlorine to be killing anything beneficial. I also use vinegar for PH down since it is very strong and super cheap, it really works great.

24 Clone Setup:
20 gallons of water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 60 minutes OFF)
PH - Plain water is 8.1 to start, but brought it down to 5.8 today
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 1.5ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 1)
PPM - Plain water is 198, then with the root hormone its just over 215, and with the flakes it went up to about 315
Temperature - Air 79.1 degrees F, water 74 degrees
RH - 52 to 56%


6 Mother Clone Setup:
20 gallons of water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 8 Hours OFF)
PH - 8.0 to start, brought it down to 5.8 today
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 1.5ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 1)
PPM - Plain water is 198, then with the root hormone its just over 210, and witht he flakes its around 290
Temperature - Air 79.1 degrees F, water 73 degrees
RH - 52 to 56%

Grow Schedule (For the 24 clones)


Week 1: 24/0 Fluorescents
1.1ml of Roots Excelurator per gallon
PH 6.8-7.0

Week 2: 24/0 Fluorescents
1.1ml of Roots Excelurator per gallon
1-1.5ml of Aqua Flakes per gallon
PH 5.8

Week 3: 24/0 Fluorescents
1.1ml of Roots Excelurator per gallon
2.5ml of Aqua Flakes per gallon
PH 5.8

Week 4: (Week 1 Veg) 18/6 MH lamp
1.1ml of Roots Excelurator per gallon
5.5ml of Aqua Flakes per gallon
PH 5.8

Week 5: (Week 2 Veg) 18/6 MH lamp
1.1ml of Roots Excelurator per gallon
6.5ml of Aqua Flakes per gallon
PH 5.8

Week 6: (Week 1 Flower) 12/12 HPS lamps
1.1ml of Roots Excelurator per gallon
6.5ml of Aqua Flakes per gallon
3.8ml of Multi Zyme per gallon
PH 5.8

Week 7: (Week 2 Flower) 12/12 HPS lamps
1.1ml of Roots Excelurator per gallon
7.5ml of Aqua Flakes per gallon
3.8ml of Multi Zyme per gallon
PH 5.8

Week 8: (Week 3 Flower) 12/12 HPS lamps
1.1ml of Roots Excelurator per gallon
8.5ml of Aqua Flakes per gallon
3.8ml of Multi Zyme per gallon
**ml of Botanicare Sweet per gallon
PH 5.8

Week 9: (Week 4 Flower) 12/12 HPS lamps
1.1ml of Roots Excelurator per gallon
9.5ml of Aqua Flakes per gallon
3.8ml of Bud XL per gallon
**ml of Botanicare Sweet per gallon
PH 5.8

Week 10: (Week 5 Flower) 12/12 HPS lamps
1.1ml of Roots Excelurator per gallon
10.5ml of Aqua Flakes per gallon
3.8ml of Bud XL per gallon
**ml of Botanicare Sweet per gallon
5.7ml of Top Booster per gallon
PH 5.8

Week 11: (Week 6 Flower) 12/12 HPS lamps
1.1ml of Roots Excelurator per gallon
7.5ml of Aqua Flakes per gallon
3.8ml of Bud XL per gallon
**ml of Botanicare Sweet per gallon
5ml(1 tsp) of Shooting powder per gallon
PH 5.8

Week 12: (Week 7 Flower) 12/12 HPS lamps
1.1ml of Roots Excelurator per gallon
7.5ml of Aqua Flakes per gallon
3.8ml of Bud XL per gallon
**ml of Botanicare Sweet per gallon
5ml(1 tsp) of Shooting powder per gallon
PH 5.8

Week 13: (Week 8 Flower) 12/12 HPS lamps
1.1ml of Roots Excelurator per gallon
7.5ml of Aqua Flakes per gallon
3.8ml of Bud XL per gallon
**ml of Botanicare Sweet per gallon
5ml(1 tsp) of Shooting powder per gallon
PH 5.8-6.2

Week 14: (Week 9 Flower) 12/12 HPS lamps
Plain water with Clearex
PH 5.8-6.8

Week 15:
Harvesting and starting 1st part of drying, planning on hanging it in my bathroom for about a week.

Week 16:
Starting 2nd part of drying, going to put everything in paper bags (helps everything dry evenly).

Week 17+:
Curing in the fridge

Cloner Stats (10/29)(12:07pm)

24 Clone Setup:
20 gallons of water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 40 minutes OFF)
PH - 6.2, so brought it back down to 5.8
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 1.5ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 1)
PPM - 318
Temperature - Air 79.0 degrees F, water 75 degrees
RH - 45-49%


6 Mother Clone Setup:
20 gallons of water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 8 Hours OFF)
PH - 6.3, brought it back down to 5.8
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 1.5ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 1)
PPM - 293
Temperature - Air 79.0 degrees F, water 75 degrees
RH - 45-49%

A few clones in the 24 setup popped their first roots last night so I guess I can relax a little heh.

I was finally able to get my pictures uploaded onto my computer so let me run you guys through them all.
(All pictures were taken today, 10/29)

Cloners, moms to the left and others to the right.



Closer look.





Have a fan pulling air away from the lights up above, and then one circulating air down below.





Showing their first roots.



A look inside the mother cloner (they are both the same), basic pvc pipe consruction and then a drain below to connect back to the rez.



Cycle timers, one ON knob with a designated ON time and then one OFF knob for the designated OFF time in between.



The flowering system, still have to set up the lights though.



Inside the tubes.



The flowering system rez, 25 gallon.



K, well that should just about do it for now, if end up taking any more pictures I'll post them up.

From now on I'm just going to post a daily log that includes all the statistical information and pictures for that day. Then throughout the day I'm just going to update the same log if anything changes, to make things a little easier.

All right, nice set up. Cant wait to see you go a little further in

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For sure thanks man, I can't wait either I'm really excited to see how it all turns out. Thanks for the post too, feel free to post as much as you'd like ttyl.

(10/30)(12:32pm)

Well its been about one week since I first put the water and clones in the cloners so its time to change the water. I thought about it and I figure that I probably don't need 20 gallons of water in each cloner right now, they just don't drink that much water yet, so I only set aside 20 gallons of water instead of 40. For now I'll just have to wait another 6 hours or so until all the chlorine is evaporated out of the water before I can use it. Also to clear up any later confusion, I cut my clones last thursday, so thursday is the first day of "week 1" and the beginning of each week for them right now, when the veg cycle comes around just after week 3 I'm going to wait a few days until monday to start the veg cycle so that the beginning of their week from then on is monday.


So while we wait, here are the current cloner stats as of this morning:

24 Clone Setup:
20 gallons of water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 10 minutes OFF, now that the roots have popped they are actually drinking water now so I lowered the OFF time by a lot)
PH - 7.1, so brought it back down to 5.8
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 1.5ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 1)*
PPM - 323
Temperature - Air 78.8 degrees F, water 75 degrees
RH - 45-49%

6 Mother Clone Setup:
20 gallons of water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 4 Hours OFF, I lowered the OFF time by 4 hours because the air flow in the closet was cuasing the hydroton rocks to dry out quicker than I thought)
PH - 6.6, brought it back down to 5.8
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 1.5ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 1)*
PPM - 295
Temperature - Air 78.8 degrees F, water 75 degrees
RH - 45-49%

*I ended up changing my mind a bit and decided to give them the Aqua flakes near the end of week 1 (this last tuesday) instead of at the beginning of week 2 (today). So now, because of this, I plan to give them 2.5ml per gallon at the beginning of week 2 (today) and then 3.5ml per gallon at week 3 (next friday).

Pictures:

Damn the roots grow fast! Here's a pic from yesterday:



And here's today:



Here's another pic of the clones (taken today):




Update (9:44pm):

K well the water should be good enough by now so I just filled up the cloners and like I said before I only gave them 10 gallons each this time. I also increased the amount of aqua flakes from 1.5 to 2.5ml per gallon since it is now the beginning of week 2.



24 Clone Setup:
10 gallons of water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 10 minutes OFF)
PH - plain water was at 8.4, brought it down to 5.8
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 2.5ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 2)*
PPM - 387
Temperature - Air 78.8 degrees F, water 74 degrees
RH - 48-50%

6 Mother Clone Setup:
10 gallons of water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 4 Hours OFF)
PH - plain water was at 8.4, brought it down to 5.8
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 2.5ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 2)*
PPM - 368
Temperature - Air 78.8 degrees F, water 74 degrees
RH - 48-50%

(12/31)(12:57pm) Happy Halloween!


The plants seem to be doing fine with the boost in nutrients and are looking good. Although, since I only have 10 gallons of water in each of the cloners now I did have to add a little extra water to bring the ppm back down. I luckily had extra water that was sitting around so I didn't have to use tap water, which has the chlorine I don't want.


24 Clone Setup:
10 gallonsof water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 10 minutes OFF)
PH- was at 7.4, brought it down to 5.8
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 2.5ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 2)*
PPM- 385
Temperature - Air 79.7 degrees F, water 76 degrees
RH - 48-50%

6 Mother Clone Setup:
10 gallonsof water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 4 Hours OFF)
PH- was at 6.6, brought it down to 5.8
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 2.5ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 2)*
PPM- 365
Temperature - Air 79.7 degrees F, water 75 degrees
RH- 48-50%

Pictures:

Moms and clones:



Another shot of the clones:



Temps and humidity:



Nice steady root growth:



That should do it for now, I will update later if anything changes.

(11/1)(11:17am)


Everything is doing great, every one of the clones have popped roots except for 1 Og, 1 Skywalker, and 2 Powerskunk. Had a slight problem today though, but I'm not sure how bad it is. When I opened the lid of the 24 cloner setup it smelled a bit like mold, but only a bit, so I put in a little hydrogen peroxide, hopefully it helps.


Statistics as of this morning:


24 Clone Setup:
10 gallonsof water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 10 minutes OFF)
PH- was at 8.2, brought it down to 5.8
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 2.5ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 2)*
PPM- 383
Temperature - Air 77.0 degrees F, water 74 degrees
RH - 49-54%

6 Mother Clone Setup:
10 gallonsof water/25 gallon rez (pump timer is set to 1 minute ON and 4 Hours OFF)
PH- was at 7.2, brought it down to 5.8
Nutrients - 1.1ml per gallon of H&G's Roots Excelurator (for the first 5 weeks), 2.5ml per gallon of H&G's Aqua Flakes A&B (for week 2)*
PPM- 368
Temperature - Air 77.0 degrees F, water 75 degrees
RH- 49-54%


Update (10:47pm):


The humidity and temperature went up a little, but everything else seems normal.


Pictures:






Root growth is lookin good: