1st Journal-Unknown "new" strain

skunkluvr

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Good day to all,

I have been documenting this grow and posting a few pictures and have had a few requests to set up a journal. So here goes my first one with pics starting at day 6 of flowering. I wasn't really planning on doing this, so I don't have any early veg pics but I'll be keeping it up to date from here on. Here are the details of the grow:

Strain:
Indica/Afghani dominant

The mother of this strain is a potent kush variety. It tastes so earthy and yummy. The father of this strain came from bagseed. I kept a collection going for about 10 years, never put a seed in it unless it came from killer bud. Needless to say, over time it became a random assortment of strains, most of which were no longer viable due to age. I germinated about 25 seeds and at the end of it all I ended up with one male and one female. They both appeared to be the same strain, very similar in appearance and were most likely the youngest seeds in the batch and from the same bag. The female is the bud in my avatar, and the male went into creating this strain.

Growing Medium:
Soil

Fox Farm Ocean Forest, no additions. Small 2 gallon containers. I start the seeds on paper towels, and drop them into the smallest peat pots filled with Jiffy seed starting mixture when they crack. I put the peat pots under a 15W floro tube (24/0) under a dome until they come out of the soil and show the first set of real leaves. By then there is usually a root popping out the bottom of the peat pot so they go right into small pots with FF Ocean Forest. I don't feed for about 3 weeks from this point.

Closet Setup:
1000W HPS
Vented hood-4" inline fan ducted outside closet
Active air intake-6" inline fan connected to 4" duct to outside
Avg. temp 78-85 day, 55-65 night
Avg humidity 30-40%

It's actually the closet in the master bedroom. My wife (God love her) actually let me put closet poles on the walls in one corner of the bedroom and hang the clothes there. Now we have the (almost) empty walk-in closet to grow in.

Nutrients:
Hydro Organics Sugar Peak
One part formula, seperate versions for veg, flowering and finishing
Veg 3-1-5
Flowering 2-4-5
Finish 0-6-5
Fox Farm Beastie Blooms
Grandma's unsulphured molasses

Sugar Peak is a guano/molasses based organic that is actually made for hydro, but works great in soil. You just basically switch from veg to flowering formula when you switch lights to 12/12 and then switch to the finishing in the last few weeks. I also SPARINGLY use FF Beastie Blooms at about the second week of flowering and again at the 4th week. I don't like the effects of too much boost so I only use like 1/2 or 3/4 TSP to a gallon. The last 10 days or so it's just PH balanced H2O with 1 TBSP/gallon of molasses. My water is high PH so I use only citric acid for lowering PH.

I vegged these seeds for 60 days and then threw them into 12/12. Anyway enough of all that, here are the pics-they are 6, 11, 21, and 28 days flowering respectively:
 

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skunkluvr

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Took some more pics today. The hairs are just starting to turn orange and they are really startng to pack on density. Just a couple more weeks or so to go...
 

skunkluvr

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Well the last 48 hours have revealed some rather bad news. About 2 days ago I noticed some rather swollen calyxes, almost like there might be something growing inside them, hmm:shock: Yesterday I saw a few more suspicious spots on a few buds so I snipped one off and opened it:cry: Seeds. Sucks, but not a complete disaster. Perhaps they came from the males that were in the closet at the beginning of flowering, I let them stay in there until they were about to open so maybe I waited too long? At least that was my guess until I took a good close look this morning.

What the hell is that powdery substance on those fan leaves:o Of course it's pollen because when hermaphrodites don't get discovered and the pollen sacks mature, they jerk off all over the place and shoot their loads all over your ladies:wall: That's not very nice, now I'm growing a closet full of seeds instead of sinsi. Wouldn't have been so bad if I was needing more seeds, but I already have plenty.

To say I'm dissapointed is an understatement, but this gives me a chance to learn a valuable lesson from a common mistake. The short of it is, I caused it with nutrient shock. I'm 90% sure that was the cause, here is my reasoning.

I intentionally put one plant in a larger container to see how it would compare to the others. It grew slightly larger, but not hardly enough to justify using up the additional space. I fed and watered all plants on the same schedule and about 2 1/2 weeks into flowering the one in the large container started showing signs of overfeeding. The other 2 looked fine, but the one had some serious downward curl of leaf growth. No burn yet, but that would have followed. I reduced and flushed right away and got things back on track, but it was evident that the plant in the large container had been WAY more affected than the others. There is some speculation on the cause of hermaphroditism, but it all comes down to STRESS. If it were light stress then all the plants would have gone hermie, but only the one did. Close inspection has revealed that this one plant has just a few strategically placed pollen sacks that did not show up early so I must have triggered it with overfeeding.

Needless to say, I'm going to use the same size smaller containers from here on out, large containers are a waste for growing indoors IMO...
 

socom3riot

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that sucks dude, I had a little batch that I left outside for too long and there was 1 male in the crop , ruined the entire thing... sucks if u leave it just for a day or two too long , screws everything. Lesson learned tho I bet. Goodluck with ur next batch.
 

MJ Crescendo

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Just curious, what size containers are you using? Seems like you have some good research behind it. I am using 3 gallon currently and it does great. I've considered going larger, but from the sounds of this there would be no reason.

That is really a terrible thing that your hermie got the best of you. Better luck next time and definitely one of the quickest flowering strains I have ever seen. I wish I had one like that right now. Keep on growing man!
 
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