Boneman's AK47/PPP Hempy side by side

Hello RIU folks! I am relatively new to this site, but not new to Mary's world. I most recently have been on an AF kick and have had great results, but after reading about the "hempy" method I thought I would give it a go. So here goes:

I germ'd 1 Serious AK47 and 1 Nirvana PPP Fem in a wet paper towel and placed it on the top shelf of my veg room and covered it in darkness. They both broke open the next day. Before I start posting the grow, I thought I'd give you a line up of what I am using.

I bought a bag of perlite and 2 8" pots from Wal Mart
I have Advanced Nutrients "monkey juice" grow a&b and bloom a&b
I mix my nutes in 1 gal bottles of natural spring water
I add in some compost tea, organic micro nutes, and cal-mag
Also added superthrive (twice in almost 2 months)

Ok, I filled the pots up with 100%, yes 100% perlite and ever so gently placed the seed tails into the perlite just as we do for soil. Lightly spread some p'lite over them and gently watered over and just around the seed. Only plain water and just enough to keep that area moist. 2 days later the lil babies discovered the world and broke thru.

July 21st put seeds in wet paper towel (morning)
July 22nd seeds cracked and sent tail in search of love (24 hrs later)
July 22nd newly germ'd seed placed in "hempy" tail down
July 24th discovery of the new world

I left these little babies next too a big glass door for a few days. This door gets a good portion of the days sunlight. It was easy to monitor them and it was their birth place and I didnt want to move them just yet. I continued a very light water only just around the sprout. The whole idea is to keep the sprout healthy as its tap root moves down towards the reservior (approx 10 days). After about one week, I gave it enough water so that the res was full and water slightly leaked out. Growth was very slow compared to what we normally see on successful grows.....but just wait

I've moved the grow into my flouro grow/clone room and it's now day 12 and I believe the tap root has reached the res as growth has just now been noticeable. Temps are about 75-80 degrees with 60% humidity. I had a weak solution of nutes (300ppm) mixed up waiting for the root. It was prolly less than 300ppm because there was already regular water in the res. Still growth is slow for almost 2 weeks.....but just wait

Day 15....I know the root hit the res because these plants just took off. I believe there is a lil nute deficiency so I am going to buy and add some cal-mag to my mixture. Everything else is going fine so stand by for more picture progress proof.....just wait, it gets nice
pic 2 is AK and pic 3 is PPP

Just to throw this out there, I have grown outside, flouros, cfl's, MH & HPS, closet, home made cab, pre fab cab, soil, hydro, and now perlite. I've had many positive experiences and definetely many different results. I have grown successfully indoors under all those lights to completion and nothing compares to the MH/HID results, but I've definately have been successful under all. So there is NO HATE from me in regards to how you grow. We all have to figure out what works for us given the situation we live in. I am by no means an expert or a guru or anything else like that. I read and learn from all of you. I dont care if your 18 or 80 because you may have encountered something to help me in my grows. This hempy bucket idea came from another forum I normally went too before it blew a gasket and has been gone for about 2 months. There were alot of questions and negative comments as well as a ton of positive comments with results posted with pic proof. So I said "what the hell" and gave it a shot. I hope this grow journal not only helps to prove another method, but also helps with any questions, doubts or concerns. Hempy is nothing state of the art new and has been around for quite a few years, but I have not heard much since joining RIU. Please feel free to chime in if you have any questions or comments. Thanks Boneman

Looking good man. Thanks for your advice on my grow, figured I'd check yours out.

Good luck with your hempy's. Can't wait to see how they turn out.

Officially subscribed.

Peace.

As I'm not familiar with the hempy buckets, do the roots grow down thru the perlite and then directly into the res?

Yes, initially the tap root heads straight down towards the res the tells all his fellow roots that he discovered something good then they all flock down there. Once I noticed growth, I started watering the entire pot just as we do in soil because I'm sure the roots have spread out as well as down. I can see bunches of roots thru the water hole.

Boneman said:

Day 15....I know the root hit the res because these plants just took off. I believe there is a lil nute deficiency so I am going to buy and add some cal-mag to my mixture. Everything else is going fine so stand by for more picture progress proof.....just wait, it gets nice
pic 2 is AK and pic 3 is PPP

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Looking good, my PPP shouldn't be too far behind yours

Boneman said:

Once I noticed growth, I started watering the entire pot just as we do in soil because I'm sure the roots have spread out as well as down.

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That's a good idea and I'm sure the trickling action helps oxygenate the water. So it's basically a wick system with the roots acting as their own wicks? Shallow Water Culture? Is that a word?

I like it Looking healthy and strong

Boneman do you know the Genetics of PPP?

ZeroTransFat said:

That's a good idea and I'm sure the trickling action helps oxygenate the water. So it's basically a wick system with the roots acting as their own wicks? Shallow Water Culture? Is that a word?

I like it Looking healthy and strong

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Shallow Water Culture, I like that. Yeah, I guess thats what you a call it.

Dr.Chronic said:

Boneman do you know the Genetics of PPP?

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Sorry Chron, not sure about the genitics other than the little info provided on the seedbanks that sell her. Everything i've read was positive and there are some killer outdoor tree pics. I'm talking over the roof and a trunk as thick as the barrel of a baseball bat...prolly thicker!

Next post is the update

Ok, so the last update, the plants were 15 days old and were suffering a little deficiency. I went ahead and got the cal-mag and added it to my feedings. WOW!! They loved it and greened right up. Definately made the right call there thanks to RIU. They continued under flouros until day 42. My PPP fem and her partner MRS!!! AK47!!! YES, Its a girl!! Did I get lucky or what? Mrs AK showed sex about a little over a month in veg.

The PPP is squat and bushy and the AK is lean and mean. I shoulda FIM'd the AK but I just let her go. I've got the verticle space in my cab. Today (day 42) is the day I moved them into my 400w HPS A/C controlled cab. Temps are about 78-80 and humidity is about 50%.

Other than the small deficiency early on, the grow has gone along very well. I am more than impressed with this hempy set up.

any updates, so hempys start pretty slow then?

cookin said:

any updates, so hempys start pretty slow then?

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Hey cookin...Yeah I guess you can say they start slow but when that tap root hits the res, they freaking take off. The first two weeks there is barely any noticeable growth. Ater that, it's on, I mean, it's ON!!!

I will hopefully get all caught up and up to date tomorrow.

cool yeah they are look pretty sweet, do you bother with ph and all that.

GL Boneman

Cookin, I have been using bottled natural spring water and because they have done so well, I havent even thought about PH.