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my bad about the thread-jacking comments, just got fed up with it all around.

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Hey King..

Looking BEAUTIFUL

And I agree trimming CAN be a chore...

But Al, and all the other perpetual SOGers, including me, stagger our harvests for that exact reason, among others of course...

He only chops 25 ~30 single colas every 2 weeks... that's not too much of a chore ...

I'm doing 2~3 single colas a day... again.. piece of cake...

What I dread is like MBlaze...

He just chopped 3 plants... took 2 people an ungodly amount of hours STRAIGHT to trim more than 18 pounds of wet bud... all at once... from 3 plants...

THAT is something I cannot imagine looking fwd to...

But going in the op... looking around... choose 2 or 3 of the more mature plants...

Pop a movie in... light a J... trim for 30 min... finish the J...

That's not bad at all.... I think...

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But anyways.. I wanted to know if I could or maybe even you... copy your pics over to my journal...

If you don't mind... I think there's some lurkers over there that would enjoy seeing it...

Thanks Bro...

And HappY B-Day Celebrations!!!!

Many more to come....!!!

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Im about to crash out, but your absolutely more than welcome to copy whatever the hell you want dude Me picas es Sue picas, lol.

N Thanks again man, always great to hear happy birthday, lol

I'll swing by tomorrow sometime when i log back on. I gotta setup a journal over at Elite, n then i gotta write the Tude n beg them to email my ass personally when they get more of Dj Short's stock in, lol, n order some gear at the same time cuz i cant fuckin believe they FINALLY got his gear in stock!! lol.

But after that ill swing on by n checkit bro. N u should know you aint gotta ask me to fuckin post my pics dude. That shit is a compliment in my book, lol.

As for trimming, i think if i had 18 lbs to trim, While it would fuckin take paying someone off in bud to help you get it finished, would still be awesome to do. Just being able to say that I harvested 18 lbs would get me through that shit like i hopped in the DeLorian and fuckin jumped 10 hours ahead in time to when i was done man. It would fuckin fly by, lol.

This time around with the upstairs grow, i chopped 3 plants at once on the first day, and it took me like 2 hrs to fully trim up all 3 plants. I had wifey workin with me on it, lol, so shit was easy. I leave all the close trimming to her delicate hands man. Shit turns out better that way n trichomes dont end up gettin chopped off, lol.

peace,
-K1.

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Thanks Bro...!!!

And yeah.. I hear you.. but your plants are MUCH bigger than mine .. right?

It takes me about 10 min to do a real good, careful job to one of these...

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Dude, it's a real treat to have such a a complete and enthusiastic response to a question.

And I've enjoyed every second of this journal, even when I get lost looking for stuff lol. I love the funny back and forths and the posts by Gypsybush are always great.

I can see why that guy got frustrated but it kinda comes with the territory. Clutter happens. And I mean, how lucky are we to even have this. I can't imagine how hard it was to figure out how to grow good buds pre-internet days lol.

Your last big buch of pics looked soooo sticky sweet, love it.

I'm not all about the big colas, just yeild and quality, so scrog sounds good to me. But I've had my clones since June 15th and I havn't topped. I don't know when or how to do it but that's probably hard to coach via internet. I have a friend who can help me.

10" of space to grow above the screen. That's what I wanted to know. Thanks.

But what if I decide to utilize that extra space and place my screen much higher, around 20" above the top of my soil pots, and start flower there? Would you (or any regulars here) happen to know how much space I should need for buds to grow above the screen then?

The 3 gallon pots I'm gonna move to are about 9" tall. And my HPS with the ducting on top will take up as much as 12 inches. So that would leave around 30" for growth above the screen. Should be plenty of room, right? It's only a 250 watter, with glass shiled, intake, and exhaust. Would that require transplanting to 5 gallon pots instead? Will I get a better yeild from scrog when I have plenty of veritcal space? Will a tall scrog be a problem in my skinny 26" by 30" space? Will I ever stop wearing out my welcome?? lol Sorry for asking so many questions?

I may end up just placing the sceen around ten inches so I can hurry up and get my first crop.

Check my journal and give some input if you're bored. Links at the bottom.

Thanks!

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Whats up bro!? Update looks great man, girls are comeing along really nicely. I noticed that attitude was selling DJ shorts now, I'd love to run some of his stuff too, so thats sweet!

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Yeah, i mean up until now, all my plants have been at least 3 ft-4ft tall, with shitloads of branching goin on. And most of the time the leave to bud ratio is horrible, lol, so it takes a shit ton longer man. I WISH i had a bud that big with so little leaf matter to trim dude. Thats like my fuckin Disneyworld, lol. N DANK nugget by the way man. OoOoo, n i wanted to ask, n ill come check you out here in a sec too, but hows that Cindy 99 comin along?? Cant wait to take a peek at what she produces

Ok, first thanks man, its awesome to hear that shit, lol. Really appreciate the positive words dude. That typa shit is always welcome here.
Second, about your question as far as raising the screen.

--The reason that you put the screen 12" above your pots, is because when you put your plants into flower, theyre going to STTTTTTTTTRETCH like a motherfucker. Let's say your plants are about a foot tall when you go 12/12. They'll keep stretching through most of flower, and youll end up with potentially a 3 or 4 foot plant, maybe even more.

With the screen 12" above your pots, it gives you a primer of when to flower. Once your topped plants have grown their tips through the screen about 2 inches give or take, then you can start to flower. And this is how the actual ScrOG is achieved. As the plant stretches, rather than growing out vertically, your traning them to weave in and out of the holes in the screen, and you'll eventually end up with a massive canopy of nothing but solid popcorn nuggets. It's a beautiful thing to see in action man, at first you wont think that your doin it right, but as everything goes along n grows, you see itll all come together.

If you were to raise the screen to 20", all that would happen, is that you would end up with a whole lot of branching underneath the screen, that wont get any light. Once your canopy begins to establish itself, you should be stripping the bottom 1/3 of all your branches below the top canopy, as hardly ANY light at all is going to get through it, and everything below will just either die, or grow super slow and underdeveloped, and all this really does is take away energy from the plant that could be spent on bulking up all of the top buds that are woven through your netting. I mean, sure it's doable, but to be honest, you'd just be losing 8" of branch that would end up full of bud, and woven through your net. Instead, you'll just have an extra 8" of branch just sittin there n doin nothin for you thats productive, lol.

N as for your 250w, dude honestly i think you'll be ok if you ScrOG. I dont know where the hell to find it right now, but this one dude had an ebb/flow tray set up, and he put a ScrOG net over top of it, and used a 250w to flower everything out. The motherfucker ended up with a main bud the size of my fuckin leg (i got some big ass legs), and a shitload of little buds too. It was kinda jaw dropping, almost enough to make you question wether or not he actually used a 250. But he did man, n it goes to show that if you know what your doin, or learn what your doin, you really can amaze just about anybody with what your equipment is capable of producing .

--O, n topping. Dude, topping is simple, and you dont need to be coached through it at all. I'll lay it out for you right here real quick, and hopefully make things a little clearer for you.

Let's say you have a new plant growing, thats 2+ wks old. She's growin out beautifully, and has 4 or 5 branch sets, and is about 8" tall. Your ready to top. Take a pair of clippers, and go down to the 2nd set of branches, counting up from the bottom. Chop everything off above that branch set. Just chop the main stem, period. At that point, the branches that you left (the bottom two branch sets, or even just the bottom branch set), will then begin to grow out, and you'll end up with two main stems instead of one. it'll take about two weeks for the plant to fully recover from being topped, but at the end of that two weeks, you'll have two fat main branches, and they'll just keep producing branch sets. You can do this as many times as you want really, to each main branch. More branches = more budsites = more yield. Just remember that you need to give them the proper amount of veg time for recovery every time you top if you want each branch to reach it's full potential after being chopped.



In this pic, at the top left, there is a plant that hasn't been topped. In this example theyre topping just the top node, so you can easily see the results. You can actually top this way too, it's just as effective, but in your case you want to top often and early. Anyway, in the top right, is right after the plant is topped. Each arrow with a 3 attached, is pointing to the new growthsites. instead of these being potential budsites, topping the plant transfers its growing energy to the topmost pair of these potential budsites, and turns them into main stalks. They grow pretty damn quick, and before you know it, you have two main stalks that are just as thick, sturdy, and just as highly productive, if not more productive, than the original main stalk was. The bottom as it says, is the same plant just two days after being topped. See how fast they've stepped up and taken on the job of becoming the main stems? imagine what theyll look like after two weeks man.

Alot of people debate as to wether or not topping and traning give more yield than an untopped, single cola dominant plant. I personally think there's no comparison. I've grown both, and while a single cola plant produces one giant bud at the top with a shitload of popcorn nugs, a Topped plant can produce as many HUGE top colas as you decide, and you'll still end up with a shitload of secondary buds. Just always remember to give everything you prune proper veg time to recover, and your reward will come 8-10 wks after your flower man. Hope that helped, and i hope you dont need any additional coaching after that, lol, my fuckin fingers hurt now, hehe.

Hell yeah man, im fuckin stoked that theyre finally carrying his gear. I just need to make fuckin sure that im on top of it whenever they start carrying all of that shit that they say is out of stock man. Its gonna go like wildfire seriously man. I got my cc number taped to my pc screen, so i can order that shit the second i see it dude. I'm gettin my ass at least 2 or 3 of his strains to grow out. I want that Blue Satellite, i want Flo, and i think i wanna give Vanillaluna a try too. I sampled a nug of my BB dude, and its fuckin gorgeous. Amazing smoke, amazing taste. Smell is so citrusy, but i cant put my finger on it. It almost smells like Sour P did, but in the same sentence, i could say it smells completely differently, lol. I need to check out the nug profile for BB, n see what it has to say. Maybe i can put my finger on it a lil better man..

Later guys,

-K1.

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hey K1 man,
Heres a bit or pornage from my 400w grow man, I know iv been holding out on updates and pics...trying to get back into my rhythm after moving house...I bet you understand man.




So yea man, drop into my thread dudes if ya want, everyones free to leave comments. Missy is in bondage now my first time lst-ing and i left it a bit late lol, but shes not even phsed, all her colas have turned to the light so shes going good man. Her eaves re beautiful green except the ones that are yellowing and being consumed for nutrients (on bloom nutes now).

Ur shits looking awesome dude. Serious, very nice man...and that pic by Gypsy...jesus...things got like 8 leaves and a pound wet lol...thats gotta be some sort of genetic engineering or something...gypsy man you are like the O wise one of growing insane pot dude...I so impressed!

Anyways man, looking good dude, theres a whole heap of pics in my journal if ya wanna see some porn, and tomorrow ill be going down and doing detailed pics of the 3 strains i have going (one random bagseed, 2x double gum - shit smells STRONG! 1x arjans silver haze - also smells DANK as, touch it anywhere and your eyes almost water man...loving it.

Prot

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Here's the last shot of Cindy... taken yesterday I believe...

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Beautiful, healthy lookin' fat lady, GB!! protopipe1