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Old 09-02-2008, 10:54 PM
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Was there a particular reason you decided to flower them so soon? Also, should have really been no nutes until the plants were asking for them (usually the leaves will start to become a lighter green as an indicator)

yeah, I kinda knew it too, especially with foxfarm soil. It was stupid. I did not know the indicator, thank you! Only water for a while. As for why I started flowering so soon, a couple of reasons, though I think in hindsight I either need to veg a little or get larger cuttings: I am using cfl's which cannot penetrate well enough to support large plants (SeeMoreBuds 17), and this is only for personal medicinal use and I am trying to get a perpetual harvest.

I have read alot about people who do this with cfl's. A guy who is on another board (DrBudGreenGenes) and I think the same guy has a good video on youtube where he has a smaller box, but uses about the same cfl's (off grid too) and starts his seeds or cuttings on 12/12 with no veg and gets 18-20". I may set up a small mother/clone room eventually and rotate in larger clones. The original idea was to only have one room, light schedule, and not wait for 3 months to have new bud.

I also was recommended "marijuana Buds for less" by SeeMoreBuds/Garden Knowm (by my Dr.!). I was impatient waiting for shipping, or I would have done some things differently like the clamp lights, more than 6 42watters, and might have vegged a little. In SeeMoreBuds book from seed, went 12/12 on day 16. My clones looked about the same height as in the book but in the book the plants did not go into shock adjusting to new environment so probably kept growing while starting to sex. My first 6 girls already showed sex when I got them although the guy told me they were on a 24hr photo period. The new three showed no sex, until today day 11, 1 of the 3 has a couple of pistils.
- let alone a 3oz. dose to a gallon.

The bottle says for a heavy feeding 4 oz/gal. but again it was dumb. I have been divorced twice I never learn anything the easy way. 1st wife took my son. I learned my lesson about the family court, and have had my 13yr old from day one and by myself for 11 years.
You will for sure get some repercussions from the OD. I've never used anything but Foxfarm nutes and I've never given anything over the recommended directions (3-4 t)- usually always less than the directions. marijuana usually for the most part is not a heavy feeding plant, some indicas can take some heavy feedings though..

Would you say that in the future 4T be too much? Also I ordered some Blue Mountain Organics micro nutes (soil tonic?), would it be safe to add this (conservatively) once it arrives in a week or two?

A flush can cause more problems than it would fix- though I think you might make a right choice here, def. nute and salt build up in the soil with the plants so young.. eck. but the flush will take everything good out of the soil.

I was concerned about that, but was told I should by my local shop. I used 2 gal/1gal pot.

How many times have you nuted the plants thus far total?
every other watering I used: 1st 2 times 2T/gal, then 4T/gal, then the 3oz/gal f-up

What color/ how murky is the water coming out the bottom when you water?

water was very light yellow+ some soil loss. pH of 1st gallon of run off was 6.5, besides some soil it was clear as opposed to cloudy.

Btw, I've seen more people hurt plants with fertilizer then help plants- easy does it...
I am sure I would have been better off never adding nutes, because the soil is so rich. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb!

By the way, everything I am only explaining what happened and why. I am not trying to make any excuses or give the impression that I know what I am doing, because I don't!. I have read alot and had 1 shitty attempt at 19 in 1989, anybody remember "operation green merchant"? UPS sucks! I absolutely appreciate the knowledge amassed by many people on RIU. I am extremely thankful to all those who can advise and help me become more successful.
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Also to add to the damage done, last night I turned OFF the house air when I was cool outside and opened the windows. When I came home from work expecting to feel the cool house air, it was hot as hell!. I literally, dropped the groceries and ran to check the girls expecting to find them cooked. The box was 96, not good but it could have been much worse, glad I got the 256cfm blower. Luckily after originally deciding too wait 20 hours to water, I went ahead and gave them tap water with 1T Molasses (no chlorine and pH 6.4. I opened the box but shut the bathroom door cuz it gets colder. Then 2 hours later I checked before leaving to get my daughter, and the cat was locked in the bathroom with the garden! .

Luckily no plants were harmed during this 3rd f-up (4th if I should not have flushed, 5th if I flowered too soon, oh yeah CFL'S!!!!!). Good Kitty!!!!!

The OGK girls are 22 days today and the flowers are dramatically larger from the end week 2 post in spite of me I will post pics Wed night.
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Thought I stop in I'm pritty sure you won't be waiting with a shotgun behind the door
Growing pains, huh! I feel you mate. Can't help you, I'm in hydro, and even then I'm lucky to keep mine alive,lol.
I think you are in good hands with Hotnsexymilf.
I'm 215 as well, were you in SD?

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Growing pains for sure! Thanks for stopping by! Don't get me wrong I am not for violence, and I won't be waiting behind the door with a shotgun, nevertheless I would definitely recommend calling first, and not fucking with my family cuz I will be behind the door with the SKS well, not really but it is not far from reach and loaded. (Ca DOJ legal, as enough parts have been replaced to be considered American Made)

But again I really am not as crazy as that sounds, I think

Yeah I live in SD County
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Growing pains for sure! Thanks for stopping by! Don't get me wrong I am not for violence, and I won't be waiting behind the door with a shotgun, nevertheless I would definitely recommend calling first, and not fucking with my family cuz I will be behind the door with the SKS well, not really but it is not far from reach and loaded. (Ca DOJ legal, as enough parts have been replaced to be considered American Made)

But again I really am not as crazy as that sounds, I think

Yeah I live in SD County
I know what you mean man, it's a big conversation, but there is room for all of us at the table
I'm in HB, the situation is a little easier up here I think.

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DAM MAN I AM GLAD 2 C EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT

U LIVE U LEARN LOL
I KEEP MY AC ON 24/7 AFTER SOMTHING LIKE THAT HAPPEND 2 ME /ITS JUST WAY 2 MUCH WORK,TIME,MONEY 2 LOOSE IN 1 DAY
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Also to add to the damage done, last night I turned OFF the house air when I was cool outside and opened the windows. When I came home from work expecting to feel the cool house air, it was hot as hell!. I literally, dropped the groceries and ran to check the girls expecting to find them cooked. The box was 96, not good but it could have been much worse, glad I got the 256cfm blower. Luckily after originally deciding too wait 20 hours to water, I went ahead and gave them tap water with 1T Molasses (no chlorine and pH 6.4. I opened the box but shut the bathroom door cuz it gets colder. Then 2 hours later I checked before leaving to get my daughter, and the cat was locked in the bathroom with the garden! .

Luckily no plants were harmed during this 3rd f-up (4th if I should not have flushed, 5th if I flowered too soon, oh yeah CFL'S!!!!!). Good Kitty!!!!!

The OGK girls are 22 days today and the flowers are dramatically larger from the end week 2 post in spite of me I will post pics Wed night.
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Yep, my AC is on an auto setting, always! Have you considered one that just handles your grow, like a window unit or portable?
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Yep, my AC is on an auto setting, always! Have you considered one that just handles your grow, like a window unit or portable?
Yeah the original closet was a homemade temp controlled fermentation room, which conveniently was insulated with reflective rigid insulation and had a window ac installed in the upper cabinet, facing down (not the best for the ac unit) Fermentation does produce heat but not as much as 10-42 watt cfl's. Also this was located right by the front door so odor and the noise of the ac and the heat from the ac making house uncomfortable. installed face down the compressor was very loud and the water which condensed in cooling coils would freeze if set low enough for 77-81 degrees.
So I built the box. Still considering cutting hole in box and mounting AC. Frys has a portable for 299 but not spending that much right now. I have the house ac on a program, but instead of overriding the temp, turned it off. won't happen again, soon it will be cooler also! new pics tonight, so check back!
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Thanks camaro dude. I'll try not to F-up much more.
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my breaker box to my a/c unit went out today
dam i shouldnt of said anything lol
every thing is good tho it hit 101.9 f
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Damn dude, that sucks. Glad there was no disaster! kinda funny all things considered
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