General Cloning ?'s

thecannacove

thecannacove

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Hey all, I'm happy to say as a newb I actually still understood the majority of everyone's answers and actually had questions about multiple clone generations & possible degradation, so thanks for answering! +rep will be going out once I get on my computer vs. my phone.

Anyhow I actually stumbled across this thread while I was trying to find answer about clones that were taken from a mother that was in early flower, and then put back into veg. I'm currently in my first grow, and have some clones that fit this case. Most of them seem to be doing fair, but a couple are a bit tardo. Tonight I decided to cut the non-serrated leaves and single spoon like leaves from the main stem of one of my plants. It's also currently undergoing some LST. My questions are:
Will my pruning hurt the plant, if not, will I see new growth from the spots on the stem that I cut the foliage from?

I guess my last question is just in general what is the best way to treat a clone was clipped during flower? If "throw it away" is your answer, can you explain why?

Edit: Here are some pictures of the plant in question, 1st image is before pruning (obviously, lol).


Thanks again guys! I really think RIU is the best forum community out of any I've ever frequented (that goes all topics, just MJ)
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justanotherbozo

justanotherbozo

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thecannacove said:
Hey all, I'm happy to say as a newb I actually still understood the majority of everyone's answers and actually had questions about multiple clone generations & possible degradation, so thanks for answering! +rep will be going out once I get on my computer vs. my phone.

Anyhow I actually stumbled across this thread while I was trying to find answer about clones that were taken from a mother that was in early flower, and then put back into veg. I'm currently in my first grow, and have some clones that fit this case. Most of them seem to be doing fair, but a couple are a bit tardo. Tonight I decided to cut the non-serrated leaves and single spoon like leaves from the main stem of one of my plants. It's also currently undergoing some LST. My questions are:
Will my pruning hurt the plant, if not, will I see new growth from the spots on the stem that I cut the foliage from?

I guess my last question is just in general what is the best way to treat a clone was clipped during flower? If "throw it away" is your answer, can you explain why?

Edit: Here are some pictures of the plant in question, 1st image is before pruning (obviously, lol).


Thanks again guys! I really think RIU is the best forum community out of any I've ever frequented (that goes all topics, just MJ)
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cuts that were taken from flowering plants will be slower to root but shouldn't need any special treatment other than some extra time for them to revert back to the vegetative state, how much extra time is dependent on how far along the mother was when you took the cuts.

another thing worthy of note is that the further into flower a plant is, the higher the failure rates will be, up to about 2 weeks in the success rates will be about the same as cuts taken from non-flowering plants but once your plants go beyond 2 weeks of flowering you'll have less success rooting any cuts you take, ...you can take cuts almost right up to harvest but many won't root that far into flower.

...and don't do any more defoliation until those get a mite bigger, ...below i've provided you with a link on the topic of defoliation that should answer your questions in this regard, even the ones you don't know to ask yet.

Defoliation: Hi-Yield Technique?

...here's a few shots of some i'm re-vegging after harvest and you'll note that i don't do anything special, i just leave some popcorn on the bottom and stick them back into the veg room, ...i've read from someone who's opinion i trust that his plants yield more the second and third time around so i'm testing that report to see if it works for me too.

...first, a group shot with 5 just harvested plants beside one from the previous harvest to show how they look once they fully revert.



...now one of the just harvested girls.



...and another one.



...and a few of the one fully revegged.







peace, bozo
 
thecannacove

thecannacove

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Bozo, awesome advice :) Makes me feel a bit better for sure. They are all well rooted by now so I guess the most volatile stage is over. All but one really has adjusted reasonably I think, but growth is somewhat slow. I'm just hoping I don't have a bunch go hermie on me. That's the main reason why I asked about the defoliage. I have read even stress from lighting hour changes can be enough to hermie a plant (ie. Change lighting during veg cycle from 7AM - 1AM to 9AM - 3AM). I don't know the validity of this, but I figure less stress (environment wise, not training) would be prudent. Thanks again, now I'm off to read the link provided.

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Current Setup: 4x4x8 veg room, 8 x 100W equiv. CFL, approx. 250CFM in/out. 11 ladies growing in TGA Organic Soil with 1/3 TGA Super Soil bed.
 
justanotherbozo

justanotherbozo

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thecannacove said:
Bozo, awesome advice :smile: Makes me feel a bit better for sure. They are all well rooted by now so I guess the most volatile stage is over. All but one really has adjusted reasonably I think, but growth is somewhat slow. I'm just hoping I don't have a bunch go hermie on me. That's the main reason why I asked about the defoliage. I have read even stress from lighting hour changes can be enough to hermie a plant (ie. Change lighting during veg cycle from 7AM - 1AM to 9AM - 3AM). I don't know the validity of this, but I figure less stress (environment wise, not training) would be prudent. Thanks again, now I'm off to read the link provided.

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Current Setup: 4x4x8 veg room, 8 x 100W equiv. CFL, approx. 250CFM in/out. 11 ladies growing in TGA Organic Soil with 1/3 TGA Super Soil bed.
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you're welcome man, that's what we do, we help each other out if and when we can, believe me, i received plenty of help myself back in the day.

...i think the most valuable advice i can give you is to recommend that you look at each grow as only practice for the next grow, that way even total failure won't beat your psyche down to mush.

...it's also important to understand that this is a plant that evolved to grow in the wild so dealing with stress is a part of it's genetic make-up, ...if your gene pool is stable your plants will take a tremendous amount of stress and NEVER hermie, ...if you DO get hermies from the kinds of stress you describe above i'd recommend you look for more stable genetics.

...here's a shot of some plants that were left in a cardboard box in the back of a closet for 8 days while i moved from one apartment to another and ALL of them survived this stress and not one of them hermied on me.



...trust that people believe what they say to you but don't blindly rely on them knowing what they are talking about, that's why i always recommend a search through older threads on any topic you may have interest in, that way the answer's to questions will have stood the test of time and scrutiny and can therefore be considered more valid.

...ultimately though, every grow really is practice for the next, ...look for improvement not perfection and you will be happier in your garden.

peace, bozo
 
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