12/12 from seed - The beginnings of spek's perpetual grow

[bass1014]

hey just a lil info. del666 has an awesome thread on 12/12 from seed that might give you a few pointers.. i followed dells recommendations and was pulling 1-2 oz off each plant..

 

[spek9]

Thanks bass, will check it out!

-spek

 

[BCJohn]

Lookin good man.
I like the work you're doing. I just might have to follow along for the ride. I'm sure to learn a few things.
I guess if I grow some seeds I'll have to do a 12/12FS for sure.

 

[spek9]

Had to supercrop all four of my oldest White Widows, they were way too tall, even though they should be done stretch soon... essentially, I'm just testing. I don't really care about those ones anyways.

Even though I'm just early in the process, my girl is liking the look of things and sees massive potential. She knows I almost have the cycle ready, so she's down with me upgrading... ordering a 4x4x6.5' tent, a 1000w setup with air-cooled hood, an 8" inline with carbon filter, and whatever necessities I need to automate my hempy setup so there's no hand feeding.

Both tents will stay in 12/12 perpetually. I'll use the new tent to run the tall strain through with the 1Kw, and all of my short strains can be piled into the existing 2x4 tent with my 400w just fine.

12/12 from clone, it looks like the Widow clones will finish stretch to 24-36" somewhere, but I won't find out as I just severely supercropped the four tallest I have now. I should be able to fit nine in the new tent very comfortably, as I've found when I go direct to flower from clone, they grow stretchy and not bushy.

Things don't look much different from the other day, but I might up some pics later anyhow. I took my two last widow clones in my cloner and potted them. Both will be mothers. So now I have four mothers:

- 1 x Jack Herer (and I'm LOVING how this plant grows when put straight into flower... it's already budding after 13 days!)
- 1 x Chem Dawg (this one does well straight to flower too)
- 2 x White Widow (this was my last femmed seed. Now I have two mothers, and currently 8 plants in the flower tent)

-spek

 

[JohnNeedsMeds]

Had to supercrop all four of my oldest White Widows, they were way too tall, even though they should be done stretch soon... essentially, I'm just testing. I don't really care about those ones anyways.

Even though I'm just early in the process, my girl is liking the look of things and sees massive potential. She knows I almost have the cycle ready, so she's down with me upgrading... ordering a 4x4x6.5' tent, a 1000w setup with air-cooled hood, an 8" inline with carbon filter, and whatever necessities I need to automate my hempy setup so there's no hand feeding.

Both tents will stay in 12/12 perpetually. I'll use the new tent to run the tall strain through with the 1Kw, and all of my short strains can be piled into the existing 2x4 tent with my 400w just fine.

12/12 from clone, it looks like the Widow clones will finish stretch to 24-36" somewhere, but I won't find out as I just severely supercropped the four tallest I have now. I should be able to fit nine in the new tent very comfortably, as I've found when I go direct to flower from clone, they grow stretchy and not bushy.

Things don't look much different from the other day, but I might up some pics later anyhow. I took my two last widow clones in my cloner and potted them. Both will be mothers. So now I have four mothers:

- 1 x Jack Herer (and I'm LOVING how this plant grows when put straight into flower... it's already budding after 13 days!)
- 1 x Chem Dawg (this one does well straight to flower too)
- 2 x White Widow (this was my last femmed seed. Now I have two mothers, and currently 8 plants in the flower tent)

-spek

It all sounds great Spek! Can't wait to see how you do with all of them!

 

[bigsteve]

My perpetual grow harvests 2 plants a week and I flower in a 8 x 8 foot room. I guess you could get as much production as you hope for if you keep to small pots. BigSteve.

 

[spek9]

A few pics from today. 15 plants in the flowering tent ranging from ~1 month in flower to 11 days in flower. The tall plants are really getting in my way. I want to figure out a few short strains to start on to make things more manageable.

1) side view
2) bud site!
3) bud site & frost!
4) my *extreme* supercropping experiment (yes, it is broken 3/4 of the way through about a week ago, keeps growing)
5) top view
6) moms, and the clones ready for the flower tent this weekend


-spek

 

[juliecasea]

Hey I was just browsing and came across you.I have two white widowsthey are six and a half weeks in flower almost time.when I first put the widows in I put a bag seed,from kush,from a friend.that was put in my tent along with the widows.she's been on 12/12 from seed...and.......whoa!it is huge..it vegged itself for amonth then the flowers came.she's huge.no stress.she looks amazing!I will always put some from seed to 12/12.ill post some pics.the camera I have sucks.happy growing.

 

[spek9]

Some pics from today. All strains are starting to bud pretty nicely now. You can see that at the left side of my tent I have the tall plants. Soon I'll have my second flower tent... one for the short jack herer, and the new big one for the tall widow and chemdawg. BTW, I am LOVING the growth pattern of the chemdawg immensely, but it's too tall to go along with the perfectly sized herer.



-spek

 

[spek9]

Hey I was just browsing and came across you.I have two white widowsthey are six and a half weeks in flower almost time.when I first put the widows in I put a bag seed,from kush,from a friend.that was put in my tent along with the widows.she's been on 12/12 from seed...and.......whoa!it is huge..it vegged itself for amonth then the flowers came.she's huge.no stress.she looks amazing!I will always put some from seed to 12/12.ill post some pics.the camera I have sucks.happy growing.

My widow is a really weird strain, but it grows like a weed. The product is exceptionally comfortable. Definitely up some pics of yours

-spek

 

[spek9]

A few pics from today... I'm now up to 20 plants in the tent (I killed one in vermiculite that wasn't going to produce well). The first round of harvest will occur in just a bit less than a month today.

Notice on the left is all the tall plants. I'm going to leave out the White Widow for a few rounds to see how the Chemdawg (medium but stable height after stretch) and the wonderfully short and stubby Jack Herer fit together in this scenario.



-spek

 

[spek9]

Rooted my final four clones for the perpetual project. By the time I bury more clones for the flower tent, I'll be harvesting the first batch of six.

Two weeks later, I'll harvest batch two, 8 plants, and by then, I will have my schedules (clone-taking, planting and harvesting) pretty well down to a science.

pic 1) two well-rooted Chemdawg clones and two Jack Herer clones, awaiting to go into the flower tent at lights on
pic 2) my Moms and Grandmom (the new Moms are doing fabulously, already taking clones from them). Grandmom got pruned severely today to let her air out and let light to the inner branches. The new clones I took today as well. At the back are all Chemdawg, middle is Jack Herer, and three at the front are White Widow.



-spek

 

[Frenchy1000]

Lookin really good m8. My next grow is going to be WW. Got seeds waitin to go. Got about 4-5 weeks left on my current 2, gonna germ a WW in about a week or 2. Give some good veg time keep up the good work

 

[spek9]

Got my water-drip system today. I accidentally ordered two of them, so I'll use one to feed the 8 most mature plants with two drippers each, then the second unit will feed the other 16 plants with a single dripper each.

I'm going to build my own timer and replace the one built in. After I dial it in, I'll be able to set it so the solenoids open for a specific number of minutes every two days (that's how often I water by hand).

This is going to save me a ton of time



-spek

 

[spek9]

FWIW, I've changed up my schedule to align far better mathematically. I have some timing to adjust in my current grow, but the below blueprint will work for anyone just starting out, or for my future grows. It is a perpetual grow, harvesting every three weeks once the plants hits week 9/day 63:


- day 1: (phase A) place 20 clones in the cloner
- day 14: (phase A) pot 8 best clones and put them into flower tent
- day 21: (phase B) place 20 clones into cloner
- day 35: (phase B) pot 8 best clones and put into flower
- day 42: (phase C) place 20 clones into cloner
- day 56: (phase C) plant 8 best clones
- day 63: (phase D) place 20 clones in the cloner

Perpetual starts below, harvesting 8 plants, and starting 8 plants every 21 days:

- day 77: (phase A's day 63/wk 9 from flower) HARVEST!
- day 77: (phase D) put 8 best clones into flower
- day 84: (restart phase A) put 20 clones in cloner
- day 98: (phase B's day 63/wk 9 from flower) HARVEST!
- day 98: (phase A) put 8 best clones into flower
- day 105: (restart phase B) put 20 clones in cloner
- day 119: (phase C's day 63/wk 9 from flower) HARVEST!
- day 119: (phase B) put 8 best clones into flower

-spek

 

[spek9]

So, I wrote a piece of software that maps out the long term schedule and dates for the major events of my (or a) perpetual grow. With the ability to back-date within the software, here's my actual schedule for 8 harvests that I'll be following. I've moved around the schedules of the existing plants so everything lines up.

$ ./growsched --harvests 8 --start 2013/08/21

spek's 3 week harvest perpetual grow schedule plotter

2013-08-21: Cut clones
2013-09-06: Put clones into flower
2013-09-11: Cut clones
2013-09-27: Put clones into flower
2013-10-02: Cut clones
2013-10-18: Put clones into flower
2013-10-23: Cut clones
2013-11-08: HARVEST!!
2013-11-08: Put clones into flower
2013-11-13: Cut clones
2013-11-29: HARVEST!!
2013-11-29: Put clones into flower
2013-12-04: Cut clones
2013-12-20: HARVEST!!
2013-12-20: Put clones into flower
2013-12-25: Cut clones
2014-01-10: HARVEST!!
2014-01-10: Put clones into flower
2014-01-15: Cut clones
2014-01-31: HARVEST!!
2014-01-31: Put clones into flower
2014-02-21: HARVEST!!
2014-03-14: HARVEST!!
2014-04-04: HARVEST!!

The code is below if you want to use/fix/change it. How it works:

- with no arguments, will plot out a cycle of three harvest sessions, three weeks apart
- the -h or --harvests argument followed by a number, will schedule that number of harvests
- the -s or --start with a date in the format 2013/11/02 will start your grow on that date. No arguments starts today.

#!/usr/bin/perl

use warnings;
use strict;
use 5.12.0;

use DateTime;
use Getopt::Long;

# get command line options

my $date;
my $harvests = 3;

GetOptions(
            'harvests|h=i'  => \$harvests,
            'start|s=s'     => \$date,      # yyyy/mm/dd
    );

my $start;

if ( $date ){

    my ( $start_year, $start_month, $start_day ) = split( '/', $date );
    $start = DateTime->new(
                            year    => $start_year,
                            month   => $start_month,
                            day     => $start_day,
                        );
}
else {

    $start = DateTime->now();
}

# get the grow off the ground
# starting with the initial planting schedule

my $progress = $start->clone();

say "\nspek's 3 week harvest perpetual grow schedule plotter\n";

# 1st batch

say $progress->ymd . ": Cut clones";
$progress->add( weeks => 2, days => 2 );
say $progress->ymd . ": Put clones into flower";

# 2nd & 3rd batch

for ( 0..1 ){

    $progress->add( days => 5 );
    say $progress->ymd . ": Cut clones";
    $progress->add( days => 2, weeks => 2 );
    say $progress->ymd . ": Put clones into flower";
}

# main loop including harvest

while ( 1 ) {

    # more clones if necessary

    $progress->add( days => 5 );

    if ( $harvests > 3 ) {
        say $progress->ymd . ": Cut clones";
    }

    $progress->add( days => 2 );

    # harvest!

    $progress->add( weeks => 2 );
    say $progress->ymd . ": HARVEST!!";

    # plant clones if necessary 

    if ( $harvests > 3 ){
        say $progress->ymd . ": Put clones into flower";
    }

    $harvests--;
    last if $harvests == 0;
}

say "\n Congratulations, your grow schedule is complete!\n";

# LICENSE: This software is free to use under the same license as Perl itself

# Copyright:  © spek, 2013-11-01

# Thanks to: The great folks over at rollitup.org

-spek

 

[spek9]

Updated code. You can now set the length of clone propagation time from between 14 and 21 days on the command line, if you want something different than the default of 14 days. Just use the -r / --root option:

% growsched --root 16

#!/usr/bin/perl

use warnings;
use strict;
use 5.12.0;

use DateTime;
use Getopt::Long;

# get command line options

my $date;
my $harvests = 3;
my $root     = 16;

GetOptions(
            'harvests|h=i'  => \$harvests,
            'start|s=s'     => \$date,      # yyyy/mm/dd
            'root|r=i'      => \$root,
    );

my $start;

# die of root propagation is out of range

if ( $root < 14 || $root > 21 ) {
    die "Clone propagation must be between 14 and 21 days\n";
}

if ( $date ){

    my ( $start_year, $start_month, $start_day ) = split( '/', $date );
    $start = DateTime->new(
                            year    => $start_year,
                            month   => $start_month,
                            day     => $start_day,
                        );
}
else {

    $start = DateTime->now();
}

# configure the rooting timeframes

my $days_pre_clone = 21 - $root;
my $days_aft_clone = $root - 14;

# get the grow off the ground
# starting with the initial planting schedule

my $progress = $start->clone();

say "\nspek's 3 week harvest perpetual grow schedule plotter\n";

# 1st batch

say $progress->ymd . ": Cut clones";
$progress->add( weeks => 2, days => $days_aft_clone );
say $progress->ymd . ": Put clones into flower";

# 2nd & 3rd batch

for ( 0..1 ){

    $progress->add( days => $days_pre_clone );
    say $progress->ymd . ": Cut clones";
    $progress->add( days => $days_aft_clone, weeks => 2 );
    say $progress->ymd . ": Put clones into flower";
}

# main loop including harvest

while ( 1 ) {

    # more clones if necessary

    $progress->add( days => $days_pre_clone );

    if ( $harvests > 3 ) {
        say $progress->ymd . ": Cut clones";
    }

    $progress->add( days => $days_aft_clone );

    # harvest!

    $progress->add( weeks => 2 );
    say $progress->ymd . ": HARVEST!!";

    # plant clones if necessary 

    if ( $harvests > 3 ){
        say $progress->ymd . ": Put clones into flower";
    }

    $harvests--;
    last if $harvests == 0;
}

say "\n Congratulations, your grow schedule is complete!\n";

# LICENSE: This software is free to use under the same license as Perl itself

# Copyright:  © spek, 2013-11-01

# Thanks to: The great folks over at rollitup.org

-spek

 

[FuckJeffGoldbloom]

Good thread, great looking grow, im subbed up mate

FJG

 

[sky rocket]

Subbed. What nutes are you using?

 

[jackm420]

what are the benefits of 12/12 from seed?