The 12-12 From Seed Thread
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GreenSanta
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didnt work for me outside hyroot. even the seeds i had started way back early july were not flowering fast enough so i trash them. they were just starting to show sex recently while normal outdoor plants around here show sex between August 1st to August 15 ish ...
hyroot
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I have 2 little plants that have been in cups in 20/4 for a few weeks, under a single t5 bulb. They been growng really slow.Only has 3 nodes. Does anyone know if they will grow like 12/12 fs. Or normal like a clone. I don't have room for them. The clone trays have to go in their place. I want to throw them outside in 3 gals , but not if they don't produce shit..
B166ER420
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Riu member jondamon had a killer grow with a 400w.............check it out!!!
Dr Pepper Bud
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Hey guys I am planning to start a 12/12 from seed in a 100% perlite hempy bucket with nirvana raspberry cough fem. under a 600w hps. I plan to do a perpetual grow and was debating between doing nine 1 gallon buckets, or six 2 gallon buckets with three 2l soda bottle hempys for the first 3-4weeks and then transplanting them to the 2 gallons. My first 2 grows won't have any transplanting regardless because either way because I will have plenty of space, but once I have my perpetual set up there is not enough space for 9 2 gallons however there is enough space for 9 1 gallons. I was wondering which set up would be most beneficial to a 12/12 from seed? I feel as though the 2 gallons would produce bigger plants, however I do not know if transplanting a 12/12 from seed plant at around 3-4 weeks would stunt it anyways and possibly cause hermie from stress. I figure you guys would have the best info on transplanting with 12/12s from seed I saw someone else asked a similar question, but it was not answered. I should point out that these are 1 and 2 gallon buckets, not pots and I believe pot sizes are slightly smaller here is a link to the 2 gallons the 1 gallons are the same thing just smaller http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-9941BL/Pails/2-Gallon-Plastic-Pail-Black thanks in advance!
BBbubblegum
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Harvested my girl today. 2 ounces wet. probably will come out with about a 1/2 ounce. A little upset, but i will still end up with twice as much as my first grow. Going to completley upgrade the grow, might move to LED or HPS and going to inveest in some quality genetics.
Dr Pepper Bud
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I just did the math and it looks like i can fit 6 2 gals with 3 1 gals so I may do that and then if I notice that the 1 gals are yielding significantly less I will try the 2l to 2gal transplant method and if the 1 gals wind up being around the same size I could swap out the 6 2 gals for 9 more 1 gals for 12 plants in rotation instead of 9 so we'll see thanks for your help!
I want to try 12/12 from seed with og gth seeds, but it has a 14 week flower period and this time around the females didnt show their first hairs until 2.5 months of veg! Do you think if I flower earlier than this that they will show sex sooner? Im just worried that I'll be giving a plant 12 hours of light when its not mature enough. I read that forcing a plant to flower when its not mature it will just hermie.
B166ER420
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Ive been "forcing" mine to flower(12/12) for over a year now and I havn't had any hermies.I use mexi-scwag bag seeds but I don't think that matters much.You can keep a plant vegging for yrs in the right conditions with at least 18 hrs of light.When a plant is mature enough to flower it will start alternating nodes.
A side note for you new growers.....BIGGER ROOTS = BIGGER FRUITS and if done carefully transplanting WILL NOT stress a plant to death.Transplanting is only beneficial,it might slow growth while the roots establish themselves but that's it.Hope this helps.GL.peace
A side note for you new growers.....BIGGER ROOTS = BIGGER FRUITS and if done carefully transplanting WILL NOT stress a plant to death
.Transplanting is only beneficial,it might slow growth while the roots establish themselves but that's it.Hope this helps.GL.peaceSo you admit theres a point when a plant is mature enough to flower.. but you say you can make it do this earlier by giving it 12 hours of light when its not yet mature?
Quote from someone who probably doesnt grow with bag seed:
So basically, AT LEAST the seedling stage should be getting more than 12 hours of light. If your plant shows female hairs in 3 weeks, then thats 3 weeks you should be vegging. I dont know how you can say that a strain which didn't show sex for 2.5 months can be flowered straight away from seed... maybe it'll show sex twice as fast, like after one month, until then it will just get inadequate light and stretch as if its flowering until its mature enough, then it will stretch more and probably produce less than half what it would if vegged properly. So from that you could determine that the Early-induced flowering* period is one month, so start 12/12 after one month, but even that would be based on forcing a plant to flower when its not ready.
BTW mine haven't started alternating nodes yet and they are 30 days in flower from the first white hairs.. which makes me further question the validity of this method since they should be alot further along by now in other words I FLOWERED TOO EARLY. This method is only viable for quickly maturing strains.
B166ER420
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Its definatly beneficial if a fast flowering strains is used.I can say a lot of time I use 20 hrs of light on seedlings for about a week then down to 18 hrs of light for the next few weeks,after about 3weeks switch to 12/12.Like 12/12 from seed but with a kick.
Flowering can't be induced on a plant,it has to be mature enough,alternating nodes doesn't always occur first.
ONE MORE TIME.......12/12 fs is the best way to have a perpetual grow with a single grow space or to identify males and females as quickly as possible.
I apologize because im not good with words or the best at explaining things.I just hope you have gained something from this thread like I have.peace
.Flowering can't be induced on a plant,it has to be mature enough,alternating nodes doesn't always occur first.
ONE MORE TIME.......12/12 fs is the best way to have a perpetual grow with a single grow space or to identify males and females as quickly as possible.
I apologize because im not good with words or the best at explaining things.I just hope you have gained something from this thread like I have.peace
SirGreenThumb
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I just put another bagseed in my tent a week and a half ago and she has already shown sex and started flowering.
Here are some pics of it... My camera is going out, these are the best pics I could get.
Dr Pepper Bud
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Can you guys give me an average time to harvest on plants with 11 week flowering periods, 10 weeks flowering and 8 weeks flowering. Obviously you cant give me an exact time i just need a ball park guess as that is the flowering time for the seeds I just bought and I'm trying to decide which seeds to plant when for my perpetual grow.
Dr Pepper Bud
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Perfect answer thank you sir.
rickymac21
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Hey del. I know this thread is old but it is phenominal. I wanted to PM you but your inbox is full. I know you do 12/12 from seed, but I was hoping I could get some advice on sog with clones. Floor space is 4'x5' with 4' ceiling. 1000w bulb. Thought a safe number would be 24 plants vegged for 2-3 weeks depending on strain.and these are my grapefruits
your yields are just outstanding for growing from seed. I'm hoping I can even come close growing from clone. But if I can get 1.24 ounces off each plant like this I will be more than happy. Any suggestions on nutrients for coco?