Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[Rising Moon]

I thought the mint might be an ok one, I am just low on cash and like to use what I have around. Maybe I'll try some basil and mint .

If you want to add mint as a COMPANION plant, then be all means, transplant it into a small pot, and bury that into your bigger pot, to stop it from aggressively spreading and stealing food from the real crop your trying to grow...

 

[mrcourios]

That's pretty expensive considering this: http://www.ingredientstodiefor.com/item/Aloe_Vera_Extract_200x_Organic_Puraloe/111

I think I'll try this out since they have it at a store 3 miles from my house,plus they have the coconut powder.I don't need a lot since I will only have 12 plants max at any one time,flower,veg and clone.

http://www.lilyofthedesert.com/shop/preservative-free-juices/
http://navitasnaturals.com/product/529/Coconut-Water-Powder.html

 

[sullivan666]

Off topic question, can BTI dunks be used as foliar or should i keep it in the soil?

 

[Cann]

can't think of a reason to spray BTI as a foliar....I would only use it in the soil. not sure if there could be any benefits of a foliar application...

is it for fungus gnats? what are you trying to control w/ the BTI?

 

[sullivan666]

Honestly, I'm not sure what they are exactly. I've just noticed some marks on some leaves that look pest related. I'll try to get some pics up when the lights come on. I've noticed some small 'gnat-like' insects a few times but I was never able to identify em. I think its gotta be either thrips or fungus gnats though. In either case, BTI would be best in soil?

 

[headtreep]

Honestly, I'm not sure what they are exactly. I've just noticed some marks on some leaves that look pest related. I'll try to get some pics up when the lights come on. I've noticed some small 'gnat-like' insects a few times but I was never able to identify em. I think its gotta be either thrips or fungus gnats though. In either case, BTI would be best in soil?

BTI for soil and spinosad on leaves if you really think you have an issue. Also neem cake bubbled tea 24 hours and drench/foliar. I've used about a 1/4 to 1/2 cup with success for a 5 gal bucket. Capt Jacks concentrate is what you want for the spinosad btw. Shit works well but I hear it can kill the good bugs as well.

 

[sullivan666]

Thanks for the info. I'll look into spinosad. I know the hydro store has this http://www.amazon.com/Garden-Essentials-oz-Neem-Oil/dp/B002VS4VS6

Anyone have experience with it?

 

[sullivan666]

Nvm, I found my answeres on pages 25-26...just placed an order with Ahimsa Alternative

 

[sullivan666]

Got a new question...I've been cruising the alleys around my neighborhood for materials...today I was looking for milk crates to put my worm pot on top of...found them and found a 5 gallon bucket almost full of this:

It looks similar to pumice but I don't think it is. Anyone have any ideas what it could be? I was thinking of using it for aeration in the worm bin and garden.

 

[hyroot]

I think I'll try this out since they have it at a store 3 miles from my house,plus they have the coconut powder.I don't need a lot since I will only have 12 plants max at any one time,flower,veg and clone.

http://www.lilyofthedesert.com/shop/preservative-free-juices/
http://navitasnaturals.com/product/529/Coconut-Water-Powder.html

That's pretty expensive. More than buying bottles of coconut water at walmart.. The coconut powder will only be good for 15 gal of water. That's one watering for me. The best place for coconut water or powder is any of those little Asian markets. If you are in SoCal they are all over Irvine, Westminster, garden grove, and Costa mesa and diamond bar.

You can buy aloe plants at home depot for $3.50

 

[NickNasty]

Got a new question...I've been cruising the alleys around my neighborhood for materials...today I was looking for milk crates to put my worm pot on top of...found them and found a 5 gallon bucket almost full of this:
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It looks similar to pumice but I don't think it is. Anyone have any ideas what it could be? I was thinking of using it for aeration in the worm bin and garden.

Looks like sea shells and possibly something like coral that has degraded over time from water erosion. If so it would probably work great.

 

[headtreep]

Where does everyone source their water? I use R/O cause my tap is really nasty and when I used to use hydro it tested about 700+ ppm. Been using R/O even in soil with great results. What do you use and why? Rrog brought up a great point about R/O being close to rain water. I really like that idea.

 

[sullivan666]

Looks like sea shells and possibly something like coral that has degraded over time from water erosion. If so it would probably work great.

Thanks for the input, I'm thinking I'm gonna go ahead with it. I was thinking I should let them soak in water for 24 hours then dry em out in the sun to avoid any pesticides chemicals that may have been used with them...do you think that's necessary?

 

[sullivan666]

Where does everyone source their water? I use R/O cause my tap is really nasty and when I used to use hydro it tested about 700+ ppm. Been using R/O even in soil with great results. What do you use and why? Rrog brought up a great point about R/O being close to rain water. I really like that idea.

I use RO because my tap is equally nasty.

 

[NickNasty]

Thanks for the input, I'm thinking I'm gonna go ahead with it. I was thinking I should let them soak in water for 24 hours then dry em out in the sun to avoid any pesticides chemicals that may have been used with them...do you think that's necessary?

Now that I look at it again I think its a type of aquarium gravel of coral and shell fragments which is why you only have a 5 gallon pail of it. Should house bacteria well and add calcium.

 

[NickNasty]

I have a whole house filter with a kdf85 filter so I can run water straight from any tap. I am coming to the conclusion though that it is really unnecessary if you use humic acid or compost or ewc because the humic acid in all of these will neutralize the chlorine/chloramine. I think its something like a tsp of humic acid will neutralize 500 gallons of tap water so as long as you add fresh sources every once in a while you shouldn't be killing off too many microbes.

 

[Bird Gymnastics]

Where does everyone source their water? I use R/O cause my tap is really nasty and when I used to use hydro it tested about 700+ ppm. Been using R/O even in soil with great results. What do you use and why? Rrog brought up a great point about R/O being close to rain water. I really like that idea.

Ditto. Always have used RO because unfortunately my tap has always been terrible haha. Thanks for the invite. Very interesting thread.

 

[Kalyx]

Google STRUCTURED WATER. Use it. Structured RO is what my indoor garden gets.

I have a simple water structuring setup my dad built for the garden out of a 5 gallon bucket, a couple funnels and two smaller buckets. It has a sub pump that pumps RO to the top funnel where it spins a clockwise vortex, then into a hose to reverse the spin for a counter clockwise vortex in a second funnel, then back into the 5 gal which acts as the 'res' and holds the pump. This simple device will do about 4 gallons at a time.

A 2008 documentary titled 'water' is where he got his idea, and internet research of course. I makes sense to me after hearing what the chinese researcher found doing side by side tests with structured vs regular irrigation water as the only variable changed. The structured water crops required 20% less water, yielded more weight, more nutrition, and had better growth rates and general health. BAM!!!

Basically water has memory based on its supra-molecular structuring, and 90 degree bends and filtering technology like RO destroy the structure (human pipes have LOTS of these) to a point where the water is in a sad state for interactions with biology. It can be structured again by simply flowing in vortexes and other natural bends and also by other means like "love and gratitude" amazing simple nature tech. A small amount of fully structured water can structure large amounts of regular water. Enjoy everybody!

I will get pics of the unit and better citations for structured water when I am back home. Love and Gratitude for everyones input on natural gardening on here and for showing the way to the cootz thread!!!

 

[headtreep]

I really like where this thread is going. I think water source is an important subject. Please do share any pics or links etc.

 

[John Nie Canna Guy]

I got a 3 stage R/O filter from amazon. A little slow, but it works like a champ. I fill up a 20 gallon Rubbermaid trash can as a res and add calmag and let it sit with an air stone until I use it all up.