dispensaries no longer legal. fuck.

[needlesnpins]

you make a good point, may very well be right. But from what I know about this business is higher risk means higher reward. And it seems like risk of "selling" just went up a notch.

....it did..but the economic rules that apply to the guys on the street do not necessarily apply to the grower unless he wants them to. the reason corso says the price will go down is because the grower will usually elect to abstain from the risk as much as possible aka wholesaling.

personally im not sure if that will really be the case. I have never brought anything to a dispensary and also never had a problem getting market price without them so this whole thing wont personally affect me as i suspect it wont for many other growers. if its only affecting a group of people who supply dispensaries i would think that is a small group. if anything i think the price may rise from the people who are at the mercy of the growers who are truly local to them.

 

[vertigo0007]

The only way to deal with this situation is to up prices. The risk went up for the grower, therfore, the cost goes up for consumer. Especially the retailer. If people would get on the same page and pull the same strong arm shit on them that they do on their vendors, things would change real quick. Dispensaries are greedy because we allow it. Period. When theyre desperate they make calls to vendors to fill their pockets. Stop allowing them to pretend theyre doing you a favor. Youre doing them a favor and they need to fucking pay for it

 

[tricloud]

If you think about it though price for meds in Michigan should not change at all. Demand/supply did not change at all. Its not like the SC ruled that growing was illegal or something drastic. The supply chain is just going to shift. All you kids on here might be able to make some good beer money slanging 8ths now lol

Only if the dispensaries do shut their doors. We will see.

Supply did not change but availability did. Boils down to the same thing. The price did go down once the outdoor grown weed started flooding the market last fall. It was on it's way down another notch too once the outdoor starts coming in fall of 2013 look out. Lots of peeps are going to be growing outside with the new outdoor grow clarifications. It was really going to go down if the dispensaries were going to be slinging it. Probably still will but I think the price will go up some for patients who's temporary caregivers are not tied to through the registry.

 

[tricloud]

You are not allowed to transfer tomato soup. You are not allowed to transfer Ketchup.

You can grow an orange, you can sell the orange, you can't sell the juice.

So if my neighbor comes over and asks for a can of my home made tomato soup I have to tell her no?

 

[Cory and trevor]

The only way to deal with this situation is to up prices. The risk went up for the grower, therfore, the cost goes up for consumer. Especially the retailer. If people would get on the same page and pull the same strong arm shit on them that they do on their vendors, things would change real quick. Dispensaries are greedy because we allow it. Period. When theyre desperate they make calls to vendors to fill their pockets. Stop allowing them to pretend theyre doing you a favor. Youre doing them a favor and they need to fucking pay for it

8-10% isn't greedy. Lay off the dispensaries brother or you're going to see some serious greed when you're entire market is hiding. They pay for a store front, lawyers risk and more and get nothing but shit from people who hate to part with money. go buy dirt if you're so upset with their greed. They are making a market place where the competition drives the price down and you're dogging them for greed. the mark up is 8-10% most retail in most other businesses is much higher. Cheapskate. dog quality, dog price and don't grow a thing-perfect solution brah.

 

[Sativasfied]

You are not allowed to transfer tomato soup. You are not allowed to transfer Ketchup.

You can grow an orange, you can sell the orange, you can't sell the juice.

So if my neighbor comes over and asks for a can of my home made tomato soup I have to tell her no?

No, of course you can share/gift your soup.

Sales is what I was referring to. You can sell your tomatoes to her, you can't sell ketchup you made from your tomatoes, that means processing.

 

[Corso312]

I have never sold to a dispensary ...I. thought it was higher than 8-10% markup.

What does the avg disp pay for a lb? 3200?
Correct me if I am wrong, if they are moving 50$ 1/8. N. Zips for 350$ that is 5400-6400 a lb. So markup. Would be 85-100% .....if my numbers are correct...are they

 

[gladstoned]

Everywhere is different.
Dispensary I dealt with paid me $250, sold it for $450 zip.
Michigan Organics in Flints sells their shit for double the rest of the places in Flint.
He told me "This is not the place you want to buy weight", That was from the owner.
The profit margins are all over the board.

 

[Corso312]

That sounds more like it, I find it hard to believe there is a disp in the country only marking up 8*10%....250$ zip is pretty good...4k a lb is great for growers.

 

[tricloud]

No, of course you can share/gift your soup.

Sales is what I was referring to. You can sell your tomatoes to her, you can't sell ketchup you made from your tomatoes, that means processing.

Still don't understand your point. We can sell buds and processed weed such as RSO and BHO which have been processed.

 

[tricloud]

Everywhere is different.
Dispensary I dealt with paid me $250, sold it for $450 zip.
Michigan Organics in Flints sells their shit for double the rest of the places in Flint.
He told me "This is not the place you want to buy weight", That was from the owner.
The profit margins are all over the board.

Was thinking the same thing. They buy for 200-250 and sell for 10-15 a gram and sometimes more. Dispensaries do have bills though and they have to pay employees etc.

The price was coming down but because sellers grow lots of shit quality weed. With so many lower priced buds it's hard to sell the good stuff for a decent price. It's partly the newbs and bad growers that drive prices down. Lots of patients would rather buy the lower grade stuff to save some cash. Man i'm glad I don't have to smoke stuff like that......

 

[Firstoffallen]

Was thinking the same thing. They buy for 200-250 and sell for 10-15 a gram and sometimes more. Dispensaries do have bills though and they have to pay employees etc.

The price was coming down but because sellers grow lots of shit quality weed. With so many lower priced buds it's hard to sell the good stuff for a decent price. It's partly the newbs and bad growers that drive prices down. Lots of patients would rather buy the lower grade stuff to save some cash. Man i'm glad I don't have to smoke stuff like that......

like i said i work at a dispensary and its common knowledge between employees to never buy more than an eighth and even thats 65 for top shelf wayy too much

 

[Sativasfied]

Still don't understand your point. We can sell buds and processed weed such as RSO and BHO which have been processed.

Here is Murfy's post for context to my reply

tobacco-

is now legal to farm. i'm not sure of the specifics, but i do know seeds are commercially available, and have friends that grow it( thanks for the reminder). the farm act is what prevents the scenario you are describing. sure, plenty of folks buy produce at the supermarket. many more buy produce locally, from small farmers. any tomatoes i grow, can be put at the side of the road for transfer, without question.

and as far as long shitty days at work go, there's only about 6000 to go. in my opinion there isn't more medical need than that poor sob.

My point was that although we can sell tomatos at the road, we can't process the tomatoes and sell paste/juice/sauce etc without a license to do so.

If cannabis was rescheduled and was like a tomato, any extract/medible/tincture would still be regulated.

Still cloudy?


Not having the licensing like CO for such things make MI that much more better to live in for a patient imo.

 

[Murfy]

yes-

under the farm act, and the mmma, processed goods are handled differently. the post to the new federal legislation was interesting though.

 

[FatMarty]

8-10% isn't greedy. Lay off the dispensaries brother or you're going to see some serious greed when you're entire market is hiding. They pay for a store front, lawyers risk and more and get nothing but shit from people who hate to part with money. go buy dirt if you're so upset with their greed. They are making a market place where the competition drives the price down and you're dogging them for greed. the mark up is 8-10% most retail in most other businesses is much higher. Cheapskate. dog quality, dog price and don't grow a thing-perfect solution brah.

You only said that because you're right.

 

[vertigo0007]

8-10% isn't greedy. Lay off the dispensaries brother or you're going to see some serious greed when you're entire market is hiding. They pay for a store front, lawyers risk and more and get nothing but shit from people who hate to part with money. go buy dirt if you're so upset with their greed. They are making a market place where the competition drives the price down and you're dogging them for greed. the mark up is 8-10% most retail in most other businesses is much higher. Cheapskate. dog quality, dog price and don't grow a thing-perfect solution brah.

First of its over 50% at many places and its over 30% at all places, moron. Second, ill dog on anyone and anything i want. go fuck yourself. who the fuck says i dont grow? Like i told uncle pud, look me up on ic pal. My skills walk on yours. And im not your brah, redneck

 

[Firstoffallen]

First of its over 50% at many places and its over 30% at all places, moron. Second, ill dog on anyone and anything i want. go fuck yourself. who the fuck says i dont grow? Like i told uncle pud, look me up on ic pal. My skills walk on yours. And im not your brah, redneck

Most legit items in any store is 100% or higher try looking up pharmaceutics mark up prices 1000% or higher (not commenting on your mad skillz brah) but Cory and Trevor are right on the economics of your disagreement

 

[Murfy]

in the first four-

pages of google results there are only one link(s) to icmag for vertigo0007, titled pic gallery. when opened, it messages "contains no pics".

just sayin.

 

[Corso312]

Also found out you can not sell venison ... strange eh

 

[Dr. Bob]

What an absolute line of crap. You think because there is a link to my website on that one they run the Muskegon Clinic? Wow. I have a link on many websites. Thanks for popping in and adding your nonsense, but you really should research a little better before you make accusations.

Dr. Bob