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[jtprin]

The phrase is very true though. I've known anti-fluoridationists like you. Quite honestly some of the stupidest people I have ever met. On par with 911 truthers.

You are anti-fluoridationist because you have latched on to the idea that fluoride is evil and parrot the verbal diarrhea of nut jobs like alex jones and anthony gucciardi. You do not review the "evidence" you encounter with a critical eye; anything that fits into the preconceived opinions you are told to have is automatically valid evidence to you. You don't understand what a credible source is. Everything you say is bullshit. When present with counter evidence you dismiss it and move on to another topic. Oh you have laundry list of youtube videos that document how certifiably INSANE alex jones is? - better just move on to another batshit crazy unsupprted topic. When I am presented with so called counter evidence I spend the time to read the information with an open mind and investigate the sources for myself. So far nothing you post is passing the test. In fact the more I look into it the more crazy and/or stupid you seem.

Okay buddy, go pour yourself another ice cold glass of tap water. Keep denying the information and evidence that is thrown into your face. No matter how many seperate studies and links I give you, you repeat the same nonsense. You claim that you read my sources, well, then which of my links in the previous post were wrong? And how are they wrong? NONE of them had anything to do with Alex Jones.

 

[see4]

furthermore kpmarine - if you could point me to the appropriate person at my local v.a. office that disputes my claim... I have a few checks I need to pick up. Because I sure as hell know I went through this shit with the office in Ohio prior to my discharge. I was a Wright Patt. a flight paramedic. was out of lackland.

 

[kpmarine]

furthermore kpmarine - if you could point me to the appropriate person at my local v.a. office that disputes my claim... I have a few checks I need to pick up. Because I sure as hell know I went through this shit with the office in Ohio prior to my discharge. I was a Wright Patt. a flight paramedic. was out of lackland.

I guess my disability check from the VA is just one hell of an accounting fluke, as is my GI bill that I am receiving; because in my 4 years, I never set foot in a foreign country and I qualify for veteran's benefits.

 

[ClaytonBigsby]

Wow, I was just pointing out an inconsistency on your part. You had the option to correct it, or me, and you chose to go batshit crazy and curse at me. By the way:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veteran

A veteran (from Latin vetus, meaning "old")[SUP][1][/SUP] is a person who has had long service or experience in a particular occupation or field; " A veteran of ..." .[SUP][2][/SUP]
This page refers to military veterans, i.e., a person who has served or is serving in the armed forces. Those veterans that have had direct exposure to acts of military conflict may also be referred to as war veterans (although not all military conflicts, or areas in which armed combat takes place, are necessarily referred to as "wars").

Right. And in turn you could have investigated this matter prior to commenting. And furthermore, and look at this carefully... "is a person who has had LONG service..." - I only served 4 years and was honorably discharged, during a non war period.

I've gone through this with the V.A., I am not a veteran. Clearly you are not either, and only quoting something from wikipedia and not from personal experience... again... you don't know what you are talking about.

Well, perhaps the problem is that you do not read all the way through something, and jump to conclusions that fit your beliefs. Had YOU read the entire definition, you would have seen the part I underlined that defined a veteran. Everyone in my family is a vet, most war vets. ALL are eligible for benefits. You don;t like wikipedia? Here, let me quote the United States Veterans Administration:

http://www.va.gov/landing2_vetsrv.htm

[h=1]Veterans Services[/h]Veterans of the United States armed forces may be eligible for a broad range of programs and services provided by the VA. Eligibility for most VA benefits is based upon discharge from active military service under other than dishonorable conditions, and certain benefits require service during wartime. If you are new to the VA, the Federal Benefits for Veterans, Dependents and Survivors booklet will help you get started.


Make sure you see THIS undlerlined part that says "CERTAIN" benefits require service during wartime. You serve, are honorably discharged, you are a vet, worthy of benefits. Seems YOU need to "shut the fuck up", because YOU do not know what you are talking about. I did not attack you in my first post, pointing out your inconsistency. You attacked me for it. Now, I will again, point out YOUR inconsistency.

 

[guy incognito]

Okay buddy, go pour yourself another ice cold glass of tap water. Keep denying the information and evidence that is thrown into your face. No matter how many seperate studies and links I give you, you repeat the same nonsense. You claim that you read my sources, well, then which of my links in the previous post were wrong? And how are they wrong? NONE of them had anything to do with Alex Jones.

I already posted what was wrong with numerous posts you've had, so I assume you mean the most recent one. The most recent post of bullshit i'm wading through is post #214.

Lol I love the "anti-fluoridationist" phrase, but again, you're wrong. You sound like you're pissed and in denial because you drank a lot of tap water as a kid, or maybe even do to this day.

http://www.ewg.org/fluoride
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/11/dr-bill-osmunson-on-fluoride.aspx
http://www.mbschachter.com/dangers_of_fluoride_and_fluorida.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdfNfxDNLxk - Dentist on fluoride. "Toxic to body, toxic to brain, toxic to body growth/healing, interferes with growth and development".

There's overwhelming evidence on the dangers of fluoride.

Lets start with this: http://www.mbschachter.com/dangers_of_fluoride_and_fluorida.htm

Not a single source.

[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]So, what are some of the facts about fluoride? According to the handbook, Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products, fluoride is more poisonous than lead and just slightly less poisonous than arsenic.

What a totally irrelevant piece of data.[/FONT] Yes fluoride can be toxic, so can anything. I looked up the hand book that this information was pulled from. Here it is:

http://www.maebrussell.com/Fluoride/Fluoride - Acute Poisoning.html

[SIZE=+3]Clinical Toxicology of
Commercial Products[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2]ACUTE POISONING (HOME & FARM)[/SIZE]

MARION N. GLEASON
[SIZE=-1]Research Assistant in Pharmacology, School of Medicine and Dentistry, The University of Rochester, Rochester, New York.[/SIZE]
ROBERT E. GOSSELIN, M.D., [SIZE=-1]Ph.D.Professor of Pharmacology, Dartmouth Medical School, Hanover, New Hampshire.[/SIZE]
HAROLD C. HODGE, Ph.D., D.Sc.
[SIZE=-1]Professor of Pharmocology and Toxicology, School of Medicine and Dentistry, The Univerrsity of Rochester, Rochester, New York.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]THE WILLIAMS & WILKINS CO.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]BALTIMORE 1957[/SIZE]

​

[HR][/HR][SIZE=-1]
[/SIZE][SIZE=-1](pages 143 & 144)[/SIZE] FLUORIDE Sodium fluoride (NaF) and sodium fluosilicate (Na[SIZE=-2]2[/SIZE]SiF[SIZE=-2]6[/SIZE]) are used commonly as insecticides (ant, roach, and beetle powders) and rarely as rodenticides. Sodium fluoride has been used internally as an anthelmintic in swine (never in man) and externally as a delousing powder on poultry and cattle. Cryolite, an insoluble sodium fluoaluminate, is sometimes dusted on vegetable and fruit crops as an insecticide. Although infrequently found outside of laboratories and various industries, HF as a gas (hydrogen fluoride) and as an aqueous solution (hydrofluoric acid) warrants consideration because it is a very hazardous form of fluoride.
Toxicology: In spite of several fatalities, the lethal dose of sodium fluoride in man is not accurately known. Less than 1 gm. by mouth has caused dangerous poisoning, but the mean lethal dose is probably close to 5 gm., and 8 to 10 gm. are almost certainly lethal in untreated cases. The toxicity of sodium fluosilicate is about the same. Hydrofluoric acid is probably more toxic than sodium fluoride, while cryolite is certainly much less toxic.
Fluoride is a "general protoplasmic poison." When present as a soluble salt, it is readily absorbed from the alimentary tract. A 2 per cent solution of sodium fluoride kills mucosal cells, and its ingestion leads to a severe hemorrhagic gastroenteritis; in part this corrosiveness is due to a toxic action on mucosal capillaries and is seen even after parenteral administration. Hydrofluoric acid is corrosive even on intact skin, where it causes painful penetrating ulcers which heal slowly.
The systemic actions of fluoride are presumably related to the inhibition of one or more enzymes controlling cellular glycolysis (and perhaps respiration) and to the binding or precipitation of calcium as CaF[SIZE=-2]2[/SIZE]. If death is not prompt, systemic symptoms are many and varied. Severe shock is due not alone to gastrointestinal damage but also to central vasomotor depression and to cardiac disturbances. At least in dogs, fluoride interferes with both the contractile power of the heart and the mechanism of beat, in a way that cannot be ascribed to hypocalcemia. The central nervous system is also poisoned, and perhaps this is responsible for the occasional epileptiform convulsions and eventual respiratory failure. Death is usually due to respiretory arrest or to cardiovascular collapse. The role of calcium binding in these phenomena is not clearly established. Many victims die without overt manifestations of hypocalcemia (e.g., tetany). Nevertheless the repeated administration of soluble calcium salts is appropriate therapy, not only to prevent or correct hypocalcemia but also to attempt the inactivation of the toxic fluoride ion by binding or precipitating it. Symptomatology:
A. Ingestion of neutral fluorides (e.g., NaF) 1. Salty or soapy taste, salivation, nausea, burning or crampy abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhea (may be bloody). Dehydration and thirst.
2. Muscle weakness, tremors, and rarely transient epileptiform convulsions, followed by central nervous depression.
3. Shock characterized by pallor, weak and thready pulse (sometimes irregular), shallow unlabored respiration, weak heart tones, wet cold skin, cyanosis, dilated pupils, followed almost invariably by death in 2 to 4 hours.
4. When death is delayed, paralysis of the muscles of deglutition, carpopedal spasm, and spasm of the extremities.
5. Occasionally local or generalized urticaria. B. Local actions of HF vapor or aqueous solutions. 1. Superficial or deep burns of the skin and mucous membranes of the digestive and/or respiratory tracts. Necrotic ulcers are painful and heal slowly.
2. For symptoms (and treatment) after the inhalation of HF or F[SIZE=-2]2[/SIZE], see Nitrogen Oxides on p. 163. Treatment:
A. Ingestion of neutral fluorides (e.g., NaF) 1. Start intravenous infusion of glucose in isotonic saline.
2. Inject intravenously 10 ml. of 10 per cent calcium gluconate solution. Repeat in about 1 hour and/or whenever tetany appears.
3. Gentle gastric lavage with lime water or a 1 per cent solution of calcium chloride (saline is a poor substitute but better than nothing). Then give orally several oz. of lime water at frequent intervals; if necessary large quantities of milk may be substituted. Aluminum hydroxide gels should
be exceptionally effective for binding fluoride.
4. Inject intramuscularly 10 ml. of 10 per cent calcium gluconate at 4 to 6 hour intervals until recovery is complete (p. 220).
5. Treat shock vigorously by the administration of saline, plasma, or whole blood (p. 193). Norepinephrine is probably useful. Give oxygen as needed. Keep the patient
warm.
6. Correct dehydration and attempt to maintain a mild diuresis, but discontinue fluids and electrolytes (except calcium) if anuria develops (p. 210). B. Treatment of HF burns of skin 1. Houston Baker of the Corning Glass Co. recommends the immediate local alpplication of the following solution: boric acid, 1 part; borax, 1 part; water, 30 parts.
2. Dr. E. E. Evens of the DuPont Co. gives the following directions for treating HF burns: a. Wash thoroughly with clean cold water and apply magnesium oxide paste.
b. Soak the affected area for at least an hour in 70 per cent alcohol and ice. Apply magnesium oxide paste and bandage. Pain developing late may be relieved by infiltrating with 10 per cent calcium gluconate into and around such areas.
c. In extensive burns with blisters, debride completely, cutting away all white raised tissue. Apply magnesium oxide paste for 24 to 48 hours and, if there is no further extension of the burned area, apply a mild ointment. Pressure dressings are satisfactory. Laboratory:
1. Signs of renal injury may arise as a direct toxic action or as a consequence of shock.
2. Electrocardiograms are desirable

I see a lot of technical information that does NOTHING to support your claims, or the claims of sourceless article you posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdfNfxDNLxk

This guy is a quack. A single no name "natural" dentists opinion. Not a single source. Not a single claim supported. Worthless as evidence, I don't know why you would even present this.

As far as alex jones goes - he was posted heavily in the first half of this thread. Specifically post numbers: 125, 126, 129, 130, and finally 157.

I have not had time to get to the rest of them.

 

[see4]

I guess my disability check from the VA is just one hell of an accounting fluke, as is my GI bill that I am receiving; because in my 4 years, I never set foot in a foreign country and I qualify for veteran's benefits.

how do you get disability if you never went to war?

Yes, I received GI payments for school too. That does not fall under the category of veteran status.

When did you serve? And who did you talk with to receive veteran benefits? I served 1995-1998. (end of 98 i went home) prior to receiving my discharge papers, i spoke with my OIC who said that as part of my discharge I was not eligible for veteran benefits.

I wonder if I could go back to them after the fact..

 

[see4]

Well, perhaps the problem is that you do not read all the way through something, and jump to conclusions that fit your beliefs. Had YOU read the entire definition, you would have seen the part I underlined that defined a veteran. Everyone in my family is a vet, most war vets. ALL are eligible for benefits. You don;t like wikipedia? Here, let me quote the United States Veterans Administration:

http://www.va.gov/landing2_vetsrv.htm

Veterans Services

Veterans of the United States armed forces may be eligible for a broad range of programs and services provided by the VA. Eligibility for most VA benefits is based upon discharge from active military service under other than dishonorable conditions, and certain benefits require service during wartime. If you are new to the VA, the Federal Benefits for Veterans, Dependents and Survivors booklet will help you get started.


Make sure you see THIS undlerlined part that says "CERTAIN" benefits require service during wartime. You serve, are honorably discharged, you are a vet, worthy of benefits. Seems YOU need to "shut the fuck up", because YOU do not know what you are talking about. I did not attack you in my first post, pointing out your inconsistency. You attacked me for it. Now, I will again, point out YOUR inconsistency.

Interesting enough. I may look into this. If there is free money to be had, I certainly won't turn it down. ( But I hardly seem I deserve it, as I did not fight for my country, the country paid me to learn a skill that I did not use )

 

[see4]

I guess my disability check from the VA is just one hell of an accounting fluke, as is my GI bill that I am receiving; because in my 4 years, I never set foot in a foreign country and I qualify for veteran's benefits.

Ahh, was this during war time? I do believe that during war time an active duty enlisted or officer are eligible for veteran benefits. And maybe this is specific to the Marines? As I was Air Force.

 

[jtprin]

I already posted what was wrong with numerous posts you've had, so I assume you mean the most recent one. The most recent post of bullshit i'm wading through is post #214.



Lets start with this: http://www.mbschachter.com/dangers_of_fluoride_and_fluorida.htm

Not a single source.



What a totally irrelevant piece of data.[/FONT] Yes fluoride can be toxic, so can anything. I looked up the hand book that this information was pulled from. Here it is:

http://www.maebrussell.com/Fluoride/Fluoride - Acute Poisoning.html



I see a lot of technical information that does NOTHING to support your claims, or the claims of sourceless article you posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdfNfxDNLxk

This guy is a quack. A single no name "natural" dentists opinion. Not a single source. Not a single claim supported. Worthless as evidence, I don't know why you would even present this.

As far as alex jones goes - he was posted heavily in the first half of this thread. Specifically post numbers: 125, 126, 129, 130, and finally 157.

I have not had time to get to the rest of them.

http://www.maebrussell.com/Fluoride/Fluoride - Acute Poisoning.html

Okay, this is from your own link.

'Fluoride is a "general protoplasmic poison." When present as a soluble salt, it is readily absorbed from the alimentary tract. A 2 per cent solution of sodium fluoride kills mucosal cells, and its ingestion leads to a severe hemorrhagic gastroenteritis; in part this corrosiveness is due to a toxic action on mucosal capillaries and is seen even after parenteral administration.'

Symptomatology:
A. Ingestion of neutral fluorides (e.g., NaF) 1. Salty or soapy taste, salivation, nausea, burning or crampy abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhea (may be bloody). Dehydration and thirst.
2. Muscle weakness, tremors, and rarely transient epileptiform convulsions, followed by central nervous depression.
3. Shock characterized by pallor, weak and thready pulse (sometimes irregular), shallow unlabored respiration, weak heart tones, wet cold skin, cyanosis, dilated pupils, followed almost invariably by death in 2 to 4 hours.
4. When death is delayed, paralysis of the muscles of deglutition, carpopedal spasm, and spasm of the extremities.
5. Occasionally local or generalized urticaria.

So what exactly are you saying? You do realize that fluoride builds up in your body, right?

 

[ClaytonBigsby]

Interesting enough. I may look into this. If there is free money to be had, I certainly won't turn it down. ( But I hardly seem I deserve it, as I did not fight for my country, the country paid me to learn a skill that I did not use )

You may not of fought for our country, but you were ready, willing, and able. That makes you a vet to me, and I thank you for your service. Something doesn't pass the smell test on what you are saying, or being told. I wish you the best and hope you are able to get everything to which you are entitled.

 

[see4]

Yes, but what is your point in all this jtprin. We get it, fluoride will kill us all. But what is your point? What does this have to do with Obama? ( Which I assume you have some sort of link/reference to )

 

[kpmarine]

how do you get disability if you never went to war?

Yes, I received GI payments for school too. That does not fall under the category of veteran status.

When did you serve? And who did you talk with to receive veteran benefits? I served 1995-1998. (end of 98 i went home) prior to receiving my discharge papers, i spoke with my OIC who said that as part of my discharge I was not eligible for veteran benefits.

I wonder if I could go back to them after the fact..

I was in from 2006-2010, I went through the DAV to get my benefits started. Disability is for any injuries incurred during your active time, it's not just for combat. If it's a combat related disability, your window for backpay is much larger is all. Unless you are some really special circumstance, you should qualify. As long as you didn't get the BCD or OTH discharges, you qualify for at least some benefits.

 

[kpmarine]

Ahh, was this during war time? I do believe that during war time an active duty enlisted or officer are eligible for veteran benefits. And maybe this is specific to the Marines? As I was Air Force.

All veterans benefits are rendered through the VA, there's no branch requirements. Time of war shouldn't matter for most benefits; you should still be eligible to file a disability claim, get the various loans through the VA, and apply for medical coverage.

 

[jtprin]

http://www.fluoridealert.org/articles/fluoride-facts/ (ALL SOURCES LISTED AT BOTTOM).


FACT 6: Ingestion of fluoride has little benefit, but many risks.
Whereas fluoride’s benefits come from topical contact with teeth, its risks to health (which involve many more tissues than the teeth) result from being swallowed.
Adverse effects from fluoride ingestion have been associated with doses attainable by people living in fluoridated areas. For example:
Risk to the brain. According to the National Research Council (NRC), fluoride can damage the brain. Animal studies conducted in the 1990s by EPA scientists found dementia-like effects at the same concentration (1 ppm) used to fluoridate water, while human studies have found adverse effects on IQ at levels as low as 0.9 ppm among children with nutrient deficiencies, and 1.8 ppm among children with adequate nutrient intake. (10-13)
Risk to the thyroid gland. According to the NRC, fluoride is an “endocrine disrupter.” Most notably, the NRC has warned that doses of fluoride (0.01-0.03 mg/kg/day) achievable by drinking fluoridated water, may reduce the function of the thyroid among individuals with low-iodine intake. Reduction of thyroid activity can lead to loss of mental acuity, depression and weight gain (14)
Risk to bones. According to the NRC, fluoride can diminish bone strength and increase the risk for bone fracture. While the NRC was unable to determine what level of fluoride is safe for bones, it noted that the best available information suggests that fracture risk may be increased at levels as low 1.5 ppm, which is only slightly higher than the concentration (0.7-1.2 ppm) added to water for fluoridation. (15)
Risk for bone cancer. Animal and human studies – including a recent study from a team of Harvard scientists – have found a connection between fluoride and a serious form of bone cancer (osteosarcoma) in males under the age of 20. The connection between fluoride and osteosarcoma has been described by the National Toxicology Program as “biologically plausible.” Up to half of adolescents who develop osteosarcoma die within a few years of diagnosis. (16-19)
Risk to kidney patients. People with kidney disease have a heightened susceptibility to fluoride toxicity. The heightened risk stems from an impaired ability to excrete fluoride from the body. As a result, toxic levels of fluoride can accumulate in the bones, intensify the toxicity of aluminum build-up, and cause or exacerbate a painful bone disease known as renal osteodystrophy. (20-23)

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000689939701336X - Got this too.

 

[see4]

You may not of fought for our country, but you were ready, willing, and able. That makes you a vet to me, and I thank you for your service. Something doesn't pass the smell test on what you are saying, or being told. I wish you the best and hope you are able to get everything to which you are entitled.

Thanks for that. Honestly I joined because I didn't know of any other way to pay for college. I got in knowing I would get out in 4 years. Went to Lackland for basic, went to Shepard afb for technical school, and finished out my time at Wright Patterson in Ohio. C130's are so fun!!

Im not sure what is fishy... I have no reason to lie about something like this. I gain nothing from it. I does nothing to support any of my arguments, only to the fact that I knew a little something about weapons. Which to be honest is not a whole lot. As an enlisted personnel, I was issued an m16 a-1 rifle. At wright patterson i was issue a 9mm sidearm in place of my m16 a1 rifle. Based on this personal reference I was making a point to which ar15 rifles are NOT a standard issue weapon in the united states military. Correct me if Im wrong.

 

[see4]

All veterans benefits are rendered through the VA, there's no branch requirements. Time of war shouldn't matter for most benefits; you should still be eligible to file a disability claim, get the various loans through the VA, and apply for medical coverage.

I tried to request a VA home loan on my first home purchase and was told no. I had to go through fannie mae for my fha loan. And now that I am a first time home buyer, I am not sure I could even qualify if you are right.

Also, I wonder if there are time limits on these benefits. I would assume not.

 

[Kite High]

[SIZE=-1]What Is A Veteran?
[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]
ALL VETERANS ARE THE SAMEWhat is a Veteran?

• A veteran is defined by federal law, moral code and military service as "Any, Any, Any"... A military veteran is Any person who served for Anylength of time in Any military service branch. [See #1 and #2, below]

What is a War Veteran?

• A war veteran is any GI (Government Issue) ordered to foreign soil or waters to participate in direct or support activity against an enemy. The operant condition: Any GI sent in harm's way.
  

What is a Combat Veteran?

• A combat veteran is any GI who experiences any level of hostility for any duration resulting from offensive, defensive or friendly fire military action involving a real or perceived enemy in any foreign theater. [See #3, below]

NOTE:

• 1. Veteran's benefits are based on Congressional regulations determined by Honorable Discharge or Under Honorable Conditions status.2. Retirees (either 20+ years service or medical discharge status) are also Veterans. Retirees are usually eligible for supplementary federal benefits, privileges and access on military installations, but not necessarily all VA services (some services are maintained by the former military branch), as regulated by Congress.
  3. Wartime medals define various levels of individual combat involvement, sacrifice and/or valor.
  4. (Ret.) or (Retired) may be used by any veteran when stating or publishing his or her rank to indicate they are not on the active list.
  [HR][/HR]Document Author: Phill Coleman, 18 June 1973
  
  Contact Person for this website: Roger Simpson,
  Public Information Officer: 13105320634.com
  The American War Library: http://www.amervets.com
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[see4]

Booya! I have a V.A. agent I need to go speak with. See what I can get.

but here is the kicker... "but not necessarily all VA services (some services are maintained by the former military branch), as regulated by Congress."

I wonder if that is outlined in my discharge.....

 

[guy incognito]

http://www.maebrussell.com/Fluoride/Fluoride%20-%20Acute%20Poisoning.html

Okay, this is from your own link.

'Fluoride is a "general protoplasmic poison." When present as a soluble salt, it is readily absorbed from the alimentary tract. A 2 per cent solution of sodium fluoride kills mucosal cells, and its ingestion leads to a severe hemorrhagic gastroenteritis; in part this corrosiveness is due to a toxic action on mucosal capillaries and is seen even after parenteral administration.'

Symptomatology:
A. Ingestion of neutral fluorides (e.g., NaF) 1. Salty or soapy taste, salivation, nausea, burning or crampy abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhea (may be bloody). Dehydration and thirst.
2. Muscle weakness, tremors, and rarely transient epileptiform convulsions, followed by central nervous depression.
3. Shock characterized by pallor, weak and thready pulse (sometimes irregular), shallow unlabored respiration, weak heart tones, wet cold skin, cyanosis, dilated pupils, followed almost invariably by death in 2 to 4 hours.
4. When death is delayed, paralysis of the muscles of deglutition, carpopedal spasm, and spasm of the extremities.
5. Occasionally local or generalized urticaria.

So what exactly are you saying? You do realize that fluoride builds up in your body, right?

I am saying that many things that are toxic to us at elevated levels are actually necessary in smaller quantities. Like fluoride. Or like salt. Too much salt can give you long term health complications, and it can also kill. You will die without some salt. No one is suggesting that anyone drink a 2% solution of sodium fluoride (which is the apparently relevant section you have singled out), and it is disingenuous to use that as an excuse to label all fluoride as evil.

Please show me the data that says fluoride builds up in the body to the toxic levels required to the damage claimed in the quoted text. The text itself says nothing about it; this is a completely new fact that you just introduced.

 

[Kite High]

Booya! I have a V.A. agent I need to go speak with. See what I can get.

but here is the kicker... "but not necessarily all VA services (some services are maintained by the former military branch), as regulated by Congress."

I wonder if that is outlined in my discharge.....

that is for the retired from what I perceive in the text...also important is the date of your discharge and the law/policy/regulations of that time are the ones that apply to you...

hope it helps

footnote. I ADMIRE AND SUPPORT ALL WHO SERVED ...even if I do not agree with the "ASSHATS" that run things and the reasons they do them "THE PEOPLE THAT SERVED AND GAVE OF THEMSELVES SO UNSELFISHLY" I personally feel deserve more than what are offered but should get all they can...again thank you and all others who gave of themselves for me and mine...I RESPECT AND LOVE YOU ALL