Solar panels are car battery chargers - some auto dealers use them to keep a charge on cars that sit on the lot. Mine are way old... There are a lot better out there now:
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Unconventional plant cultivation
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Haha, f'n a right on Tesla - he was the man
Yes, the wet soil acts as a resistor... You wont get the entire charge from the panel. Not hooked up, I get 15 volts, hooked to the electrodes, I get between 2-4 volts....
One interesting note... On the plants I currently have in flower - they aren't in this experiment - the lower stems have decent size flowers while the ones without the electrodes have virtually no lower branch flowers.... But that experiment is for another time
Uncle Ben
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Stupid is as stupid says.
missnu
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As long as you realize that we can see all your posts...so we see the questions you have asked and the issues you are having...and the dates you were having them...
So I am sorry to say this but you don't seem like a wealth of information quite yet. You are on your way...but I wouldn't start claiming anything other than noob status yet...Nothing wrong with being new...You will learn more and then realize how much you didn't know and then you will get it..but right now, just calm down..
Yes, nothing wrong with open minded and not stuck into the "I know it all" state of mind
Haha, your logic is convoluted... What does your comment have to do with the price of tea in China?
noxiously
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Did I say that I was a expert at growing marijuana? No, I just said that just because we don't have as many posts doesn't mean we are new to growing. Plants pretty much all need and take the same stuff to grow. Sure you have some that thrive more in an acidic soil more than others, but that's for a different topic. Sure, some of the questions I have asked in the past may sound like "noob" questions, but I took a long break from growing, especially indoors, and I needed a refresher. Growing up, I've been around growing weed, started being around it while in elementary school so if you want to think that I'm a noob that's fine with me. I remember one of the first times I saw a grow I was around 7 or 8 years old. My uncle, and no not uncle ben, started teaching me his secrets, and when it comes to growers I would have to say he is probably more of an expert than 99% of the people on here, old school grower with close to 50 years of growing. Unfortunately I am no longer able to ask him for advice. Also, just one last note, just because someone asks a question doesn't mean they are new, a person who doesn't ask questions, no matter how "advanced" you may think you are, is someone who is unable to learn.
You are confusing Uncle Ben With UncleBuck.....Please don't call the cops on me bro, haha
Uncle Ben is not a cop caller.
Haha... My sincere apologies to Uncle Ben.... Nothing worse than a snitch. I might disagree with Uncle Ben, but nobody should be called a rat that don't deserve it.
missnu
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I mean try whatever you want, sometimes crazy things do make a difference...but more often than not they are just the newest fad, or not even a fad, just the newest idea being tossed around at the time...
I am not saying I am unable to learn...but I am just saying that you start with the basics of things...
I would be interested in knowing if magnetism actually works or not...but I am not going to buy a machine just to try it...
I might but a few seeds in between 2 magnets one day...but that is as good as it gets...
And the amount of time you have been growing isn't even an indication of your knowledge...i have a friend that grows outdoor and has for a long time, and he had never heard of cloning Mj plants....So turns out there are a lot of things I do that he doesn't know about. All I was saying that you talk about everything you know, but we can all see the issues you have been having...and they are the same ones that plague new growers, but there is nothing wrong with being new at something...Everyone was new to growing MJ at some point...
missnu
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Well certain groups of people have touted over and over the healing and restorative properties of magnets on people, and they make a bracelet with these magic magnets and it is just crap...So perhaps the story goes the same...and I have never bought tea from China that I know of...but their prices on everything else seem to be pretty good. lol.
All I can say is try not to get caught up in the "stereotyping" that society attempts to do to discredit someone or an idea. By lumping any and all unconventional theories, you limit yourself to be close minded. That's like saying all Arabs/Muslims are terrorists - do you see how stupid that sounds?
Perhaps you know of Nikola Tesla. Later in life, the media and the establishment tried to label him as a mad scientist, a mad man. Yet when he died, the US Government came in an seized all his research. Seems kinda funny that they would do that for a crack pot, no? Just saying.
hydrosoil78
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roots work by exchanging ions that are negatively or positively charged, nitrate ions, potash, and phosphorous but magnet weed is something else. you just gotta water when the roots are warming up they will be able to exchange ions better
"Electric currents can also be caused due to the flow of other types of charged particles such as charged atoms or ions. Ionic flow of electricity is quite common in liquid and gaseous substances. Electric shocks in humans and animals, lightning, or the flow of electricity inside a conventional battery are examples of ionic electricity.
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_does_electricity_flow#ixzz22Qg6J1rJ"
For all those interested, I finally checked the voltage of the electrodes at the plant. I didn't realize that by hooking up the plant to a panel already supplying power to a plant, that I would be short changing the plant current. I tested only at .9 volts but when I disconnected the other plant, I tested at 2 volts. The solar panel supply tested at 13.5 volts direct from the panel, with no plants connected. I'm thinking now that I should either run the electricity in series or supply the plant with it's own solar panel - which I luckily have
noxiously
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That's true, just because someone has been growing for years doesn't mean they know everything about growing. I am in no way close to being an expert on growing, I doubt anyone on here is. Everyone can learn new things on any given day, if they are open to it. Yes, the troubles I have had in the past are typical of a "noob", and like you said nothing wrong with being a "noob", but 95% of my experience comes from outdoor gardening. It wasn't until last year that I actually grew indoors, so technically yes, I am a noob at indoor growing, but not growing in whole. Outdoors presents a whole different set of problems that doesn't happen at all indoors. Outdoors you have to battle the weather, heat waves, rainy weather, droughts, cold periods (either early or late in the season), wild animals, hunters who happen to come by your spot(s), etc. etc. Atleast indoors you can control the weather, atleast if you have enough money to buy the items that control those things i.e. a/c units, Co2 units, heaters (if needed), ventilation, as well as lighting. I can't say that I am completely new to indoor growing, I've been around relatives who have been doing it for decades and I've seen the problems they have went through. When I started up indoors I came across some of those same problems but like I mentioned I couldn't get the advice from my uncle anymore, as well as I couldn't really remember what my uncle did to fix those issues since he hadn't been through them since I was a little kid so my indoor knowledge was a little rusty.
As for the whole electrical current running to the roots being able to produce higher yields or more lush growth. I'm still not 100% sold on the idea, but that's why experimentation is a necessity. Some of the arguments for this theory are fairly compelling, that is if you break it down to ions and what not and know the intricate details to how plants use and gather energy. Seems plausible to me, but I guess this experiment will give some more incite into the reality of it working. I also agree with you that I'm not going to go out and buy magnets and set them up everywhere in hopes they work, or spend any extra money on something that isn't proven yet. But again, that's what experimentation is for.
noxiously
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I wonder why those panels in inserted into the dirt interfered with the normal electrical current. I wonder if you changed the plates out to metal spikes (probes) if it would change anything. I'm still in the early stages of teaching myself the ins and outs of electricity and how it works, so I may sound fairly dumb on the topic. From what I understand, in order for an electrical current to take place it needs to make a complete circuit. So maybe the current that's going in the dirt through that panel isn't able to reach the other panel because the soil is acting as a resistor. I would think that wet soil would be a better conductor since water isn't a resistor. Like they say, if you are outside in an thunderstorm don't stand under a tree because the electricity from the lightening can travel down the tree and across the soil for a few feet because the water (from the rain) that runs down the tree and out into the soil around it will carry it.For all those interested, I finally checked the voltage of the electrodes at the plant. I didn't realize that by hooking up the plant to a panel already supplying power to a plant, that I would be short changing the plant current. I tested only at .9 volts but when I disconnected the other plant, I tested at 2 volts. The solar panel supply tested at 13.5 volts direct from the panel, with no plants connected. I'm thinking now that I should either run the electricity in series or supply the plant with it's own solar panel - which I luckily have
Once article I read said to put the probes fairly close to the root mass itself. They didn't explain why, but maybe it's because the soil can't carry the current that far to make a complete circuit and get the full juice out of it.