Christians need to stop attacking gays!!

Kaendar

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wtf are you quoting you brainwashed MOFO?
Im providing arguments against gay marriage that do not cite religion as requested. And to anybody that brings up that some of these people have religious backgrounds, that still doesnt mean that they brought that into their case. Most americans have a religious background. Theres no getting around it.
 

UncleBuck

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i do believe kaendar has gone off the deep end.

did he really just quote george bush for support? :lol:

you're a joke, kaendar.
 

MellowFarmer

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Im providing arguments against gay marriage that do not cite religion as requested. And to anybody that brings up that some of these people have religious backgrounds, that still doesnt mean that they brought that into their case. Most americans have a religious background. Theres no getting around it.
How where those not inspired by the religious?
 

Kaendar

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At the end of the day I dont give a damn what you do behind your bedroom doors. IF there is judgement they will have to deal with it. I like to focus on my family, cultivating MJ, and getting money.
 

UncleBuck

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Im providing arguments against gay marriage that do not cite religion as requested. And to anybody that brings up that some of these people have religious backgrounds, that still doesnt mean that they brought that into their case. Most americans have a religious background. Theres no getting around it.
these people with religious backgrounds are basing their arguments off religion, not science.

for example, when they assert that kids do worse under same sex couples, they are basing that on their religious beliefs and ignoring the science that contradicts them.

even a mentally handicapped wombat would not fail so hard, calendar.

 

MellowFarmer

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At the end of the day I dont give a damn what you do behind your bedroom doors. IF there is judgement they will have to deal with it. I like to focus on my family, cultivating MJ, and getting money.
Riddle me this: Florida, the dark ages I mean late 90's takes away a bunch of Foster Kids from a gay couple that no one else wanted hence Foster Kids from a gay couple for being GAY

WHY?
 

Kaendar

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And here is a girl that words it so nicely,,

A similar question was asked before but the poster also included a link to a document which stated scientists have never been able to find a "gay gene". Back in the 90s some scientists claimed they'd found it but were later humiliated for being unable to substantiate their claim with infallible scientific data.

I believe gay people aren't born gay and straight people aren't born straight. Something that to date can only be guessed at causes this trigger. I think different factors make different people gay. No scientist worth his salt will lay claim to knowing precisely what causes homosexuality. They will speculate and put forward theories, qualifying statements with "we think", "we assume", "found some evidence" etc. But unfortunately scientific fact is elusive. I personally wouldn't presume to know what makes a gay person gay. But I guess it would be a pretty difficult life given that it's a Heterosexual World. (And perhaps some would argue it's a White Heterosexual Man's World!).

I work with intersexed females. We know precisely what causes their specific birth defects. In spite of that, many of them feel guilty or ashamed of their condition. It's really quite sad.

I've managed to find this info from American Psychological Association. Hope it's useful to you.

'Gay' gene claim suddenly vanishes
American Psychological Association revises statement on homosexuality

By Bob Unruh
© 2010 WorldNetDaily


A publication from the American Psychological Association includes an admission that there is no "gay" gene, according to a doctor who has written about the issue on the website of National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality.

A. Dean Byrd, the past president of NARTH, confirmed that the statement from the American Psychological Association came in a brochure that updates what the APA has advocated for years.

Specifically, in a brochure that first came out about 1998, the APA stated: "There is considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality."

However, in the update: a brochure now called, "Answers to Your Questions for a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation & Homosexuality," the APA's position changed.

The new statement says:

"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles. ..."

Conclusion: It's not genetic, but so what? People will do what they want to do whether you like it or not. No one yet truly knows why it happens but it is definitely more than just simple 'choice'.
 

Kaendar

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Riddle me this: Florida, the dark ages I mean late 90's takes away a bunch of Foster Kids from a gay couple that no one else wanted hence Foster Kids from a gay couple for being GAY

WHY?
Idk.. I see no reason to do that if they were providing them with a good home.
 

Kaendar

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They were. The ruling was because they were gay they were unfit.
Well thats unfortunate. Im sure they were better parents than the originals, given that the kids were in the system and all. I would much rather my kid go to a loving gay home then be homeless or something
 

UncleBuck

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They were. The ruling was because they were gay they were unfit.
and people like kaendar help perpetuate this idiocy by saying they have mental disorders and need not be given the same rights as opposite sex couples because if we do, dogs will marry cats and pedophiles will run rampant.

and to top it all off, he cites religious scholars and george bush for backup.

kaendar deserves the double retarded wombat salute. one was not enough.

 

Kaendar

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Yes and no? Why would a gay go to heaven? Why would a gay go to hell?
I just told you why. If you believe in that, lets just say hypothetically speaking, if you die commiting a sin you go to hell. Obviously most of the time thats the case with gays. But if they confess and repent before death, than everything will be forgiven and eternal life will be granted. Thats if you believe in that. Im just answering your question.
 

UncleBuck

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...if you die commiting a sin you go to hell. Obviously most of the time thats the case with gays. But if they confess and repent before death, than everything will be forgiven and eternal life will be granted.
i am rapidly running out of pictures of wombats to express your level of intellect in an easy to understand fashion.

 

MellowFarmer

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I just told you why. If you believe in that, lets just say hypothetically speaking, if you die commiting a sin you go to hell. Obviously most of the time thats the case with gays. But if they confess and repent before death, than everything will be forgiven and eternal life will be granted. Thats if you believe in that. Im just answering your question.
Do you believe that nonsense my catholic family swears by where you can sin to high heaven so long as a priest gives you your last rights before you pass?
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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I just told you why. If you believe in that, lets just say hypothetically speaking, if you die commiting a sin you go to hell. Obviously most of the time thats the case with gays. But if they confess and repent before death, than everything will be forgiven and eternal life will be granted. Thats if you believe in that. Im just answering your question.
So if a gay says "Im sorry Lord that I like the genitals of the same sex, I have a mental disorder so I dont know any better". Thats the only way a gay would make it into heaven?
 

Kaendar

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Do you believe that nonsense my catholic family swears by where you can sin to high heaven so long as a priest gives you your last rights before you pass?
I said IF you believe it. And the Catholic church is all fucked up. A priest is not divine and has no powers to grant you forgiveness. Just like its idolatry to worship saints.
 

Kaendar

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So if a gay says "Im sorry Lord that I like the genitals of the same sex, I have a mental disorder so I dont know any better". Thats the only way a gay would make it into heaven?
No. Thats stupid. Its the same thing as using drugs or having non marital sex. You say im sorry for falling weak to temptation of _____ watever it is. Once again, this is IF you believe in that.
 
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